nina

Ottawa, Canada

#22 Nov 14, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
Jesus and the Holy Ghost are the same entity, you know?
first you say Jesus and god are the same

now JC and the Ghost are the same?

so if god, JC and the spook are all the same, yet different

then, it is a case of multiple personality disorder

“Jesus forgives..... ”

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#23 Nov 14, 2008
Believe it, they are three entities with the same Spirit that we call God.
Stuart

Edinburgh, UK

#24 Nov 15, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
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God is just like your parents. Your parents created and feed you to grow to make this world a lively place to live in. If you think that it is pointless to have parents, you won't be here. God gives life to a soul in a created/growing/evolving flesh. The Heaven is for the Spirit that leaves the flesh after it dies of old age; it is the ultimate place where we will spend the rest of our life singing hymns praising God the King. In Heaven, we will help God to take care of every human in this world and try to bring all of them together in the spirit of God.
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In fact we already had all the essential things here that God had provided us. Mankind had survived in many corners of the earth, no matter how hostile the environment be coz they know how to make use of the things that God had created. All we have to do is to worship God only and He is happy with our little effort to love Him coz He had loved us so much.
So from what I can gather from your comments Gods purpose is to make Humans. And each Human's purpose is to worship God.

And when we go to heaven we spend eternity worshipping God (singing hymns and such like).

Why?

Has God got some sort of major inferiority complex in that it needs constant worshipping?

What happens to the "souls" in heaven which after a few hundred thousand years of constant worshipping get a bit fed up with it?

Do they get demoted to hell? Sounds like it would be a relief to me. Better still why not just let them die properly (which to my relief is probably what happens in reality). I'm sorry but immortality sounds to me like a living hell. Especially if it involves singing hymns indefinitely to placate some egotistical super being.

And why would a perfect, omnipotent and omniscient God require anyone's help with anything?

This is your idea of a purpose. To me it's completely vacuous and meaningless.
nina

Canada

#25 Nov 15, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
Believe it, they are three entities with the same Spirit that we call God.
no, I don't

and neither do most people who are believers in some sort of god or gods

“Jesus forgives..... ”

Since: May 08

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#26 Nov 16, 2008
Stuart wrote:
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So from what I can gather from your comments Gods purpose is to make Humans. And each Human's purpose is to worship God.
And when we go to heaven we spend eternity worshipping God (singing hymns and such like).
Why?
Has God got some sort of major inferiority complex in that it needs constant worshipping?
What happens to the "souls" in heaven which after a few hundred thousand years of constant worshipping get a bit fed up with it?
Do they get demoted to hell? Sounds like it would be a relief to me. Better still why not just let them die properly (which to my relief is probably what happens in reality). I'm sorry but immortality sounds to me like a living hell. Especially if it involves singing hymns indefinitely to placate some egotistical super being.
And why would a perfect, omnipotent and omniscient God require anyone's help with anything?
This is your idea of a purpose. To me it's completely vacuous and meaningless.
If the souls can sustain good in Heaven, they will be forever there. If they can't, they will be demoted to Hell.

“Jesus forgives..... ”

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#27 Nov 16, 2008
nina wrote:
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no, I don't
and neither do most people who are believers in some sort of god or gods
Jesus might have told you differently about Himself huh!

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#28 Nov 17, 2008
If God is false, a man will not be turned itchy at the sight of his female partner huh!

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#29 Nov 17, 2008
If god is omnipotent & omniscient then there is no free will and everything you ever do or say is pre-ordained since before you were born. So then what's the point of life?
nina

Canada

#30 Nov 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
If God is false, a man will not be turned itchy at the sight of his female partner huh!
itchy?

I don't believe anyone turns itchy at the sight of their partner

are you too lame to say sexually turned on?
nina

Canada

#31 Nov 17, 2008
Your "bible" is a group of "stories" written by men who were "allegedly" present at the time. These "stories" have been translated by "churches", who you have to admit are not the most reliable when it comes to personal rights and freedoms. In order to keep the people under your thumb, you need to have a set of laws or rules that everyone follows. The "bible" was a way to ensure that everyone followed those rules. The penalty was death and that death wasn't a nice one. Besides those "stories" were allegorical in nature and not meant to be taken as gospel. Your "bible" is the most violent book ever written.
Lurker

Houston, TX

#32 Nov 17, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
If God is false, a man will not be turned itchy at the sight of his female partner huh!
I think what you are referring to is natural instincts. It would be better argument to ask why do some (animals and humans) get "itchy" for someone of the same sex. Oh, yeah that's a sin.

“Jesus forgives..... ”

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#33 Nov 17, 2008
I have seen a male dog/piglet turned sexually itchy trying to do it to another male huh. Is it sin for them?
Lurker

Houston, TX

#34 Nov 17, 2008
I don't believe in sin. If you go to the christian forum they would let you know. I'm sure it has something to do with satan.

“Jesus forgives..... ”

Since: May 08

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#35 Nov 17, 2008
Majority of the people who do it are not christians. Real christians do not want to do it coz they know that Jesus is watching after them or they cannot hide from Jesus unless they are insane/crazy.
All non-christians are doing it coz they have nothing to shy of or hide coz Jesus does not care about what they are doing. It's those who think that that there is no God dare to do it for they realize that there are no one seen or unseen watching them doing the silly act huh!
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#36 Nov 18, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
Majority of the people who do it are not christians....
apparently you have some sexual hangups to work out

this is not unusual with beleivers

sex is a very natural and normal thing to have

it's not bad or sinful

“Jesus forgives..... ”

Since: May 08

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#37 Nov 18, 2008
Make sure you have the right person to have sex as God had planned when He first created a couple of humans. It's really done correctly that way huh!
nina

Canada

#38 Nov 18, 2008
Divine Alien wrote:
Make sure you have the right person to have sex as God had planned when He first created a couple of humans. It's really done correctly that way huh!
you have too many sexual issues to know who the right person for you is, never mind anyone else

“Jesus forgives..... ”

Since: May 08

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#39 Nov 19, 2008
I only like to do it with a woman or women huh!

“Liberalism = disorder ”

Since: Sep 08

ATLANTA

#40 Nov 19, 2008
IF God is not real then someone tell me WHERE & HOW we came about, including our 150 BILLION cubic mile earth, and our 100 billion star gallaxy within the billions of other gallaxies within the seemingly infinite universe.

IF there's no creator, then I guess there's nothing beyond science & what we can explain. IF so, someone will have to have a good & provable theory about what's OUTSIDE the "walls" of our universe. Then they'd have to explain HOW this stuff came about and from what.

IMPOSSIBLE. Wake up athiests. There is absolutely NOOOOO way anyone can prove these things. I believe one could actually prove that there is a "creator," but no one can disprove a creator.

“Liberalism = disorder ”

Since: Sep 08

ATLANTA

#41 Nov 19, 2008
Also, IF there is no creator, that means that there are no higher standards/morals. So, as humans we're free to govern and conduct life as we please. Including making our own decisions about what's moral, relevant, right, wrong, truth, untruth, etc. This is a dangerous way of thinking b/c then one could justify anything from lying to stealing to suicide to rape to murder to genocide, etc. The Nazis didn't believe in a higher power, for example, so it was easier to justify their acts by claiming that THEY were superior and no on else (including God) could tell them that was UNTRUE.

This is my big problem with the athiest/humanist way of thinking.

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