Atheism and homosexuality

Atheism and homosexuality

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Creationist scientists and creationist assert that the theory of evolution cannot account for the origin of gender and sexual reproduction.http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/136http://www.answersingenesis.org/pbs_nova/0928ep5.asp [[Creation Ministries International]] states: "Homosexual acts go against [[God]]'s original [[Intelligent design ... (more)

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1655 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Procreation isn't just about fertility or childbirth; it includes raising a child until it matures into an adult.
How much money does a woman in your world need to send her child to college?
Current studies show that children raised by same-sex couples fare just as well as opposite-sex couples.

And they do better, on average than single parent homes.

Under **your** ugly? All gays would automatically be single-parent homes...

... fail.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1656 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Note the people doing the 'outing' are all supporting same sex marriage.
They aren't your friends; the left is just using you to further their destruction of the family and marriage.
Yes-- yes-- you are gay, we **get** it already.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1657 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
The issue is the special right to redefine marriage marriage law for everyone.
Lie.

The issue is to **REMOVE** special OPPRESSION OF SPECIFIC GROUPS (gays) under the current laws.

Religious bigotry is no longer acceptable.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1658 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Procreation isn't just about fertility or childbirth; it includes raising a child until it matures into an adult.
You would look less foolish if you actually took the time to know the meaning of words before you used them.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pro...
Brian_G wrote:
The issue isn't equality; gays have always married under the same laws as everyone else. Oscar Wilde and Meredith Baxter are examples.
The issue is the special right to redefine marriage marriage law for everyone.
Brian, can you indicate a state interest served by denying same sex couples the right to marry, or are you FINALLY admitting that you are an idiot with no valid argument?
Thinking

Royston, UK

#1659 Aug 15, 2013
You're right. Noodle normally plays guitar, not keyboards.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
wow, that is one strange video
Thinking

Royston, UK

#1660 Aug 15, 2013
I think that last video was fun - this is what I call strange.

&t= 104
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text><quoted text>
Agreed. quite strange.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1661 Aug 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
Current studies show that children raised by same-sex couples fare just as well as opposite-sex couples.
Nonsense, based on small studies over short time spans by politically biased resarchers.

.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
And they do better, on average than single parent homes.
^^^This is the argument to take children from their single parent, to let them be raised by same sex couples.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
Under **your** ugly? All gays would automatically be single-parent homes...... fail.
Consider the gay father who divorces his wife and marries another man. He would be able to sue for custody, that he is married and can offer a more stable home than the single mother he abandoned into poverty. Same sex marriage is bad news all around; it's not just the same sex couple affected.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#1662 Aug 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if we modified the cow such that it had no brains at all? That is--eliminate what little brains they do have entirely.
Then you could grow the cow in a fixed location, using machines to exercise the muscles (for proper growth), etc. A conveyor machine brings the food. Automatic programs control the swallowing parts-- the food would be prechewed already mixed with appropriate liquids (chewing is strictly a mechanical activity anyhow). The other end could be directly connected to the processing engines, bringing in all the gasses, solids and liquids in a neat and sanitary way.
Further processing of the solid waste would yield even more methane. The liquids could be concentrated and sold as very high quality plant fertilizer-- sterile too.(liquid waste in a healthy mammal should emerge as a sterile liquid)
In short? A completely enclosed, contained factory system for producing either milk or meat or both-- no need for human intervention at all!
:)
Blach!

But I forwarded your statements to my superiors in the collective, and they gave me this response:

Dearesto Bobo-sama,

Woudo ito pureasu yuu, we woudo riku to talku abouto mobingu yuah idea tsu fluition.

Uh...so they're interested.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#1663 Aug 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Bollox.
I keep asking Brain G to introduce us to any child that was born without a mom or dad.

As much as he screams about procreation and marriage you'd think he'd see that no child can exist without a biological male and female parent.

Look at the 90 y/o granny in China. Her existence proves that every child has parents and grandparents, that no child is ever denied male and female role models.

Yet Brian G disagrees with reality.

There's a name for that condition.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#1664 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text
The issue is the special right to redefine marriage marriage law for everyone.
Like you did in 39 States, right?

I can't see how you can object to others doing what you are doing.

If what they do is wrong then so is what you did.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1665 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Procreation isn't just about fertility or childbirth; it includes raising a child until it matures into an adult.
How much money does a woman in your world need to send her child to college?
Just admit you believe what you believe because you suffer from the mental illness of creationism:

symptoms:

-unoriginality
-random acts of threatening people with hell
-changing the subject when asked to prove anything that comes out of -their mouths of their cult manuals
-lie-spamming the forum when losing arguments from all sides

You don't really believe what you say about women - you just say it because you're brainwashed to lie.

When you eventually realise that you are a person with thoughts and not a robot, you might realise that lying about a god that isn't real is very childish and inappropriate.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1666 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Nonsense, based on small studies over short time spans by politically biased resarchers.
Non of which can you apparently name, much less refute.
Brian_G wrote:
^^^This is the argument to take children from their single parent, to let them be raised by same sex couples.
Are you an imbecile, nothing of the sort has been implied, except by you, liar.
Brian_G wrote:
Consider the gay father who divorces his wife and marries another man. He would be able to sue for custody, that he is married and can offer a more stable home than the single mother he abandoned into poverty. Same sex marriage is bad news all around; it's not just the same sex couple affected.
Brian, your attempts at logic fail on every level. Your remarks are unintelligent, unsupported by fact, logic, reason, or reality. You are a bigoted imbecile, nothing more.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#1667 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense, based on small studies over short time spans by politically biased resarchers.
Children need loving adults in their lives. They need adults that will care for them and teach them and that have the time to interact with them. The gender of those adults is far less important than their mere existence. The reason single parent households are worse for children is easy: such parents tend to not have enough time to spend with the kids.
Consider the gay father who divorces his wife and marries another man. He would be able to sue for custody, that he is married and can offer a more stable home than the single mother he abandoned into poverty. Same sex marriage is bad news all around; it's not just the same sex couple affected.
How is this any different than when a straight father divorces his wife and marries another woman? The former wife still is in 'poverty'. Are you arguing against the availability of divorce?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#1668 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The issue isn't equality; gays have always married under the same laws as everyone else. Oscar Wilde and Meredith Baxter are examples.
The issue is the special right to redefine marriage marriage law for everyone.
It's not a special right and it's not redefining marriage at all. Try making an argument which we haven't already addressed.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1669 Aug 15, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I think that last video was fun - this is what I call strange.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mx2legFJLRUXX&t=104
<quoted text>
Yes... weirdness for sure... I did not watch the whole thing, either.

:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1670 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense, based on small studies over short time spans by politically biased resarchers.
Lie. Studies based out of major universities, and also in multiple countries.

You really should stop watching Faux SNooze-- it is rotting your brain.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1671 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^This is the argument to take children from their single parent, to let them be raised by same sex couples.
No-- it is showing that same sex couples are BETTER at being parents than ANY SINGLE PARENT families.

Nobody but YOU is advocating breaking up families....!

BUT YOU WOULD BREAK UP SAME-SEX FAMILIES!

You are one sick individual.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1672 Aug 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Consider the gay father who divorces his wife and marries another man. He would be able to sue for custody, that he is married and can offer a more stable home than the single mother he abandoned into poverty.
Yes. That would be JUST-- he would, with his partner, be able to care for the child(ren) than his single ex-wife on her own.

If SHE were to marry a woman? Then you'd have an equal basis for argument.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1673 Aug 15, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Blach!
But I forwarded your statements to my superiors in the collective, and they gave me this response:
Dearesto Bobo-sama,
Woudo ito pureasu yuu, we woudo riku to talku abouto mobingu yuah idea tsu fluition.
Uh...so they're interested.
:)

What? You are not interested in eating a robo-cow?

LMAO!

A mindless robo-cow would feel **no** suffering of any sort. Even the vegetarians couldn't object... a robo-cow would not be the recipient of the Hindu soul for reincarnation, sooooo...

LMAO!

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#1674 Aug 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Lie. Studies based out of major universities, and also in multiple countries.
You really should stop watching Faux SNooze-- it is rotting your brain.
I haven't gone back on this thread to check, but here's a statement by the American Psychological Association from June 2012:

http://www.apa.org/news/press/response/gay-pa...

APA on Children Raised by Gay and Lesbian Parents

How do these children fare?

On the basis of a remarkably consistent body of research on lesbian and gay parents and their children, the American Psychological Association (APA) and other health professional and scientific organizations have concluded that there is no scientific evidence that parenting effectiveness is related to parental sexual orientation. That is, lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive and healthy environments for their children. This body of research has shown that the adjustment, development and psychological well-being of children are unrelated to parental sexual orientation and that the children of lesbian and gay parents are as likely as those of heterosexual parents to flourish.

In 2004, the APA Council of Representatives adopted a policy resolution including the following statement based on a review of the best available science:

There is no scientific evidence that parenting effectiveness is related to parental sexual orientation: lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive and healthy environments for their children (Patterson, 2000, 2004; Perrin, 2002; Tasker, 1999); See the full resolution on the Sexual Orientation, Parents, & Children webpage. <link>

APA has continued to monitor the research since 2004 and report that research in our amicus briefs, such as in the Gill vs. OPM case. On the basis of the research, APA continues to oppose any discrimination based on sexual orientation in matters of adoption, child custody and visitation, foster care, and reproductive health services.

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