Atheism and homosexuality

Atheism and homosexuality

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Creationist scientists and creationist assert that the theory of evolution cannot account for the origin of gender and sexual reproduction.http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/136http://www.answersingenesis.org/pbs_nova/0928ep5.asp [[Creation Ministries International]] states: "Homosexual acts go against [[God]]'s original [[Intelligent design ... (more)

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Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#1388 Aug 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
That'll never work. There are already billions of married people, not just one man and one woman.
<quoted text>
Not to mention that mathematically, either the man or the woman is likely to be located in South East Asia.

What if one of them is in India and the other is in New Hampshire? How the hell are they going to find each other and get married?
Thinking

Royston, UK

#1389 Aug 6, 2013
Another valid point. Brian hasn't thought this through.
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Not to mention that mathematically, either the man or the woman is likely to be located in South East Asia.
What if one of them is in India and the other is in New Hampshire? How the hell are they going to find each other and get married?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1390 Aug 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Another valid point. Brian hasn't thought this through.
<quoted text>
There are many things Brian hasn't thought through.

It all comes back to Brian's inability....

... to actually think at all.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1392 Aug 7, 2013
lides wrote:
He hasn't changed it, he has merely ignored it. I am sure this will come as a great surprise to you, mainly because you have the mentality of a child and seem utterly ignorant to the workings of the world. The system REGULARLY allows laws to go unenforced. Police can refuse to arrest someone under a particular law (ever get a warning for a speeding ticket?), prosecutors can decide not to file charges, and judges can throw out cases, or in fact invalidate laws. This is not to defend the Montgomery County clerk, who knows their actions are not legal, and that they are not going to be upheld by any court. They are simply using their office to make a point. You know, free speech. Why do you hate free speech?
Same sex marriage is bad because it turns government corruption into free speech. See the post above for explanation.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#1393 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Same sex marriage is bad because it turns government corruption into free speech. See the post above for explanation.
You are a homophobe/bigot using irrational excuses to justify your hatred.

See your previous posts for examples.

lides

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1394 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage is bad because it turns government corruption into free speech. See the post above for explanation.
Brian, you are an idiot.

please feel free to indicate in detail how allowing same sex marriage corrupts public officials. Mind you, if you bring up Pennsylvania again, where gay marriage is not legal, I will savagely call into question how you have enough brain cells to breathe, let alone type.

Please keep your infantile assertions to yourself. Your participation in this thread makes anyone with the misfortune to read your drivel dumber.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1395 Aug 7, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
You are a homophobe/bigot using irrational excuses to justify your hatred. See your previous posts for examples.
What "hatred"? I've never said there's anything wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality; quite the opposite. I don't hate my political opponents, I just dislike the irrationality and uncivility of insults and defamation.

If you don't like uncivil behavior, keep marriage one man and one woman like it was for mom and dad.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#1396 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>What "hatred"? I've never said there's anything wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality;
You said that same sex marriage was bad because if it wasn't illegal, you would turn bisexual.

That necessarily implies that there is something wrong with bisexuality (and that you desperately want to be one, so you need to keep a BS law in place to stop yourself)

But all this is futile.

You've lost. This issue is over. Your side continues to shrink and sound more and more like modern day segregationists.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#1397 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
If you don't like uncivil behavior, keep marriage one man and one woman like it was for mom and dad.
More than 50% of Americans have had two or more spouses. That's not "one man, one woman".

lides

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1398 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
What "hatred"? I've never said there's anything wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality; quite the opposite.
You argue for them to be held as second class citizens with less than equal protection of the laws. That is hateful.
Brian_G wrote:
I don't hate my political opponents, I just dislike the irrationality and uncivility of insults and defamation.
The word is incivility. You do hate your opponents if you seek to keep them from their constitutionally protected rights and freedoms.
Brian_G wrote:
If you don't like the US Constitution, keep marriage one man and one woman like it was for mom and dad.
I just corrected this for you.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#1399 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>What "hatred"? I've never said there's anything wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality; quite the opposite. I don't hate my political opponents, I just dislike the irrationality and uncivility of insults and defamation.
If you don't like uncivil behavior, keep marriage one man and one woman like it was for mom and dad.
If you were to equate your (misplaced)'logic' using interracial marriage instead of same-sex marriage, then you will understand the argument we're making.

60 years ago, you would be arguing against interracial marriage for the same illogical reasons, and be just as wrong then.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1400 Aug 7, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
You said that same sex marriage was bad because if it wasn't illegal, you would turn bisexual. That necessarily implies that there is something wrong with bisexuality (and that you desperately want to be one, so you need to keep a BS law in place to stop yourself) But all this is futile. You've lost. This issue is over. Your side continues to shrink and sound more and more like modern day segregationists.
^^^This is untrue, and absurd. Nuggin has a habit of defaming political opponents but fortunately everyone can read this thread and learn the truth.

Many same sex marriage supporters are compelled to post defamation because truth isn't on their side. See the post above for example.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1401 Aug 7, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
If you were to equate your (misplaced)'logic' using interracial marriage instead of same-sex marriage, then you will understand the argument we're making.
^^^This is absurd; race has nothing to do with this issue. Besides, there are ancient arguments for interracial marriage but none such for same sex marriage. You do great harm to our civil rights heroes by comparing same sex marriage to race.

.
Kong_ wrote:
60 years ago, you would be arguing against interracial marriage for the same illogical reasons, and be just as wrong then.
Nonsense again, interracial marriage was perfectly legal in my state 60 years ago. You don't get to call your political goals a 'right' then denigrate political opponents. We're onto your pitiful game.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1402 Aug 7, 2013
Want proof same sex marriage isn't a right? Try the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

In fact, this declaration almost excludes same sex marriage, calling it a right of men and women, not women and women or men and men:

Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#1403 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Want proof same sex marriage isn't a right? Try the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
In fact, this declaration almost excludes same sex marriage, calling it a right of men and women, not women and women or men and men:
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Where, exactly, does it exclude same-sex marriages? it simply says that both men and women have the right to marry. it doesn't say *who* they have the right to marry.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#1404 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^This is absurd; race has nothing to do with this issue. Besides, there are ancient arguments for interracial marriage but none such for same sex marriage. You do great harm to our civil rights heroes by comparing same sex marriage to race.
.

Bias is bias. Racial or sexual identity.
Your intolerance and failed attempts at logic are painfully obvious to everyone, as is your pitiful deflection of guilt.
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^Nonsense again, interracial marriage was perfectly legal in my state 60 years ago. You don't get to call your political goals a 'right' then denigrate political opponents. We're onto your pitiful game.
Yet it was not until 1967, only 46 years ago, that bans that OTHER STATES had on interracial marriage were deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and such unions were legal nation-wide.

This is EXACTLY the same issue with same-sex marriage that we're seeing now.

There is a DIRECT correlation between interracial marriage and same-sex marriage.

lides

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1405 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^This is untrue, and absurd. Nuggin has a habit of defaming political opponents but fortunately everyone can read this thread and learn the truth.
Many same sex marriage supporters are compelled to post defamation because truth isn't on their side. See the post above for example.
Brian, you are confused. It is not that you hold an opposing viewpoint politically. It is that you are an inarticulate idiot, who makes claims they can't remotely prove that are devoid of logic and reason. That is why people insult you.

Truth is an absolutely defense against defamation, and you are an idiot.
Brian_G wrote:
^^^This is absurd; race has nothing to do with this issue. Besides, there are ancient arguments for interracial marriage but none such for same sex marriage. You do great harm to our civil rights heroes by comparing same sex marriage to race.
Oddly enough, the arguments for interracial marriage are also being applied, and working, in favor of same sex marriage.

No harm is done to civil rights heroes, many of them support the gay community in their fight for equality.
Brian_G wrote:
Nonsense again, interracial marriage was perfectly legal in my state 60 years ago. You don't get to call your political goals a 'right' then denigrate political opponents. We're onto your pitiful game.
Actually, you don't get to deny fellow citizens equal protection of the law.

Brian you are a tool, and an idiot.
Brian_G wrote:
Want proof same sex marriage isn't a right? Try the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
In fact, this declaration almost excludes same sex marriage, calling it a right of men and women, not women and women or men and men:
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Of course, this doesn't prove what you assert. It does prove that you have poor reading comprehension skills, and that you aren't terribly bright.

lides

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1406 Aug 7, 2013
According to Brian's logic;

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

lides

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1407 Aug 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Want proof same sex marriage isn't a right? Try the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
In fact, this declaration almost excludes same sex marriage, calling it a right of men and women, not women and women or men and men:
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
So much for that theory.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/17/un-g...

Brian, be less ignorant, you'll look stupid less often.

lides

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

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