Atheism and homosexuality

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Creationist scientists and creationist assert that the theory of evolution cannot account for the origin of gender and sexual reproduction.http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/136http://www.answersingenesis.org/pbs_nova/0928ep5.asp [[Creation Ministries International]] states: "Homosexual acts go against [[God]]'s original [[Intelligent design ... (more)

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#3431 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>True, same sex marriage means sex segregation marriage; discrimination based on gender.
Voluntary segregation isn't unconstitutional, Brian.
Brian_G wrote:
One man and one woman marriage is sex integration, without prejudice or discrimination, with a perfect 1:1 affirmative action ratio for diversity.
Except when it's not interracial. And except when it's not interfaith.

So your assertion is we should be thankful you're only prejudiced against sexual orientation and not race or religion. Got it.
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage is unconstitutional because it institutionalizes sex discrimination in marriage.
The state doesn't mandate all marriages participants be s=of the same sex, Brian. It's not unconstitutional when it's a voluntary choice made by individuals freely exercising their fundamental right of marriage. Which is why a marriage consisting of two whites or two blacks or two Christians isn't unconstitutional because the state doesn't mandate it.

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#3432 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Doug Mainwaring and Xavier Bongibault aren't Italian; many gays defend marriage as one man and one woman.
Doug Mainwaring, while identifying as homsoexual, married a woman, adopted and fathered children, divorced, and now cohabitants with his ex-wife and children in a state of celibacy. So he's no exactly representative of either straight or gay people. If his arrangement works for, then good for him. But you can't expect all gays to marry opposite sex partners or be celibate because of him.

Yes, Xavier Bongibault isn't Italian; he's French living in France. Same irrelevance as D&G.

None of this changes the fact far more straight people support same sex marriage.
Brian_G wrote:
That's why same sex marriage almost always loses at the voting booth.
And what's the track record recently, Brian, rather than what it was 10-20 years ago?
Brian_G wrote:
Its arguments are all based on emotion, not logic.
Actually, the arguments for same sex marriage are based on the constitutional guarantee of equal protection of the law. Your arguments are based on bigotry, and irrational thought.
Brian_G wrote:
Defaming opponents doesn't work when they're gay.
One can't be defamed by the truth, Brian, regardless of one's equal orientation.

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#3433 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Many gays have married under the same laws as everyone else
The decisions of a few aren't binding on all, Brian.
Brian_G wrote:
so same sex marriage is the special right to discriminate and voluntarily segregate marriage into male/male or female/female.
So you're claiming it's a special right when two white or two black or two Christian straight people voluntarily segregate themselves in marriage. So why would you deny this "special" right to gays?
Brian_G wrote:
Before the 21st century, all marriage contained husband and wife
Lie.
Brian_G wrote:
same sex marriage is sex segregation, disunity and separatism;
Voluntary segregation isn't unconstitutional. And it's no more disunity and separatism than when opposite sex couple marry within their race or faith.
Brian_G wrote:
people prefer diversity and integration.
Then when do so many opposite sex couples marry within their race or faith?
Brian_G wrote:
Every gay was born of male/female union.
The issue is marriage, not procreation.

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#3434 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>From sex segregation marriage; integration and diversity is better than separatism even when voluntary.
Then why aren't you advocating laws against marrying within one's race and faith? Oh that's right, you're not prejudiced against race or religion, just sexual orientation.
Brian_G wrote:
What do you think about Christians sued for not supporting and attending same sex wedding ceremonies?
No one has been sued fro refusal an invitation to attend a same sex wedding, Brian. Why do you lie?
Brian_G wrote:
Doesn't that prove all the intolerance comes from the left?
No. But it proves Christians like you will lie and violate you purported religious beliefs in order to promote you intolerance of gays.

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#3435 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Can't you read? I wrote gays have always been allowed to marry under the same laws as everyone else.
Equal application of the law isn't the same as constitutional equal protection under the law, Brian. After all, anti-miscegenation laws applied equally to both blacks and whites and yet were ruled unconstitutional.
Brian_G wrote:
The issue isn't freedom or creationism; the issue is rewriting laws for everyone to establish sex segregated marriage.
Like marriage laws were rewritten for everyone when anti-miscegeantion laws were ruled unconstitutional?
Brian_G wrote:
BTW, here's what Biden and Obama said in 2007:
<quoted text>
They changed their minds. So sue them.

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#3436 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree, there's nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality.
Then why do you advocate discrimination against and infringement of their fundamental rights?
Brian_G wrote:
Many gays defend marriage as one man and one woman
Far more straight people support same sex marriage.
Brian_G wrote:
don't let prejudice beat logic.
We aren't; that's why you and your ilk will end up on the trash heap of history.

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#3437 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
BTW, I've got a list of reasons to keep marriage one man and one woman, creationism isn't on it. I've made thousands of posts on this subject and none of them use creationism as a justification for keeping marriage male/female.
And none of your reasons are valid or rational.
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage creates a new entitlement for same sex dependent beneficiaries. We're already in massive debt, we can't afford more wasteful government spending.
But forcing a class of taxpaying citizens via unconstitutional discrimination to unfairly subsidize your benefits is OK?
Brian_G wrote:
Reason six for keeping marriage one man and one woman: entitlement spending.
Thanks for proving once again your reasons aren't valid or rational.

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#3438 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Reason Seven for keeping marriage one man and one woman: intrusive government regulations.
The unconstitutional gender restriction is itself an example of intrusive government regulation.
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage creates new laws around marriage causing Christian wedding vendors to be sued for turning down same sex wedding gigs and forces government to see marriage as if husbands and wives are unisex.
Anti-discrimination laws precede same sex marriage laws; they weren't created as a result of same sex weddings.

Why do you lie, Brian?
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage regulates marriage to accept sex segregation, separatism, disunity and gender apartheid.
Current marriage laws applied to opposite sex couples allow two whites, two blacks , twoChristians or two Jews to marry. Why do you accept race and faith segregation but not sex segregation? Oh that's right, because your bigotry is against only sexual orientation, not race or faith.
Brian_G wrote:
The only person discussing -Creationism- is Skeptic. Note how he ignores the real arguments in favor of his pet strawman argument. I guess, when you can't logically discuss the issue all you can do is distract from the issue.
Now you know how the rest of us feel about your pet straw man arguments and lack of logic, Brian.

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#3439 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
What's to stop them from changing their minds agains, if the political winds shift?
What difference does it make if they do? There's no law against re-evaluating one's position on a particular subject.
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage is like politicians promises.
Actually your arguments against same sex marriage are more like politicians' promises: you'll say anything and even lie in hopes of gaining support.
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#3440 Nov 2, 2013
I dont care how many times you guys can deny it.
You're either gay or an Atheist!

You can't be both.It just an't fair.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#3441 Nov 2, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
Homosexual is bad
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Even animal don't commit it
Why he went away from homosexual
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Allah say in quran :
" Or do you think that most of them hear or reason? They are not except like livestock. Rather, they are [even] more astray in [their] way"
Stupid, animals do engage in same-sex sex.
http://youtu.be/sTXabN1pnZY

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#3442 Nov 2, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
Aids is homosexual disease
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Stupid, AIDS is a disease caused by a virus, and most people who have it are straight.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#3443 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>True, same sex marriage means sex segregation marriage;
No, it doesn't you cupid stunt.
Brian_G wrote:
discrimination based on gender.
One man and one woman marriage is sex integration, without prejudice or discrimination, with a perfect 1:1 affirmative action ratio for diversity.
Same sex marriage is unconstitutional because it institutionalizes sex discrimination in marriage.
No, idiot, what we have now is discrimination based on gender.
A man can marry a woman, but a woman can't. A woman can marry a man but a man can't.
Why do you want the government checking out our junk before it determines what our rights are?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#3444 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Doug Mainwaring and Xavier Bongibault aren't Italian; many gays defend marriage as one man and one woman.
Your parents didn't they divorced.
Brian_G wrote:
That's why same sex marriage almost always loses at the voting booth. Its arguments are all based on emotion, not logic. Defaming opponents doesn't work when they're gay.
Wow, stupid, check out the news.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#3445 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Many gays have married under the same laws as everyone else so same sex marriage is the special right to discriminate and voluntarily segregate marriage into male/male or female/female. Before the 21st century, all marriage contained husband and wife;
Well, dummy, check your watch, it's the 21st Century.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#3446 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>From sex segregation marriage; integration and diversity is better than separatism even when voluntary.
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<quoted text>I never claimed anyone "is trying to outlaw mixed-sex marriage." Wolf wrote that, not me.
What do you think about Christians sued for not supporting and attending same sex wedding ceremonies? Doesn't that prove all the intolerance comes from the left?
You've never been able to point out a single case of a Xian being sue for not supporting and attending same sex wedding ceremony. So, put up, or shut up.

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#3447 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Can't you read? I wrote gays have always been allowed to marry under the same laws as everyone else.[/QUOUE]

That's like saying blacks and whites got to sit on the bus under the same "blacks sit in the back" laws under Jim Crow.

[QUOTE who="Brian_G"]
The issue isn't freedom or creationism; the issue is rewriting laws for everyone to establish sex segregated marriage.
BTW, here's what Biden and Obama said in 2007:
<quoted text>
Obama matured.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#3448 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
BTW, I've got a list of reasons to keep marriage one man and one woman, creationism isn't on it. I've made thousands of posts on this subject and none of them use creationism as a justification for keeping marriage male/female.
Same sex marriage creates a new entitlement for same sex dependent beneficiaries. We're already in massive debt, we can't afford more wasteful government spending. Reason six for keeping marriage one man and one woman: entitlement spending.

IF the issue really was "entitlement spending" for you, you'd realize gay people could just marry someone of the opposite sex they don't care about to get those entitlements. But government spending on entitlements isn't the issue, is it, Brian?

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#3449 Nov 2, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Well, dummy, check your watch, it's the 21st Century.
Watch?

He uses a sundial... only it's always in the shade...

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#3450 Nov 2, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Your parents didn't they divorced.
^^^Do you see Rose's method? Using painful childhood experiences to suppress political opposition - pitiful bullying. Not all same sex marriage supporters use Rose's methods but nobody condemns her bullying so that doesn't really matter.

Reason 19 for keeping marriage one man and one woman: Bullying.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
Wow, stupid, check out the news.
I don't watch TV nor do I insult my opponents intellect; this is where we differ.

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