Atheism and homosexuality

Atheism and homosexuality

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Creationist scientists and creationist assert that the theory of evolution cannot account for the origin of gender and sexual reproduction.http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/136http://www.answersingenesis.org/pbs_nova/0928ep5.asp [[Creation Ministries International]] states: "Homosexual acts go against [[God]]'s original [[Intelligent design ... (more)

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Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#3084 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The issue is religious freedom; no Christian has been sued for refusing to service an interracial marriage.
Not true.
Try again, stupid.
Brian_G wrote:
The issue isn't race, the issue is religious freedom and the fundamental nature of marriage. Interracial marriage has always been practiced, even the bible describes interracial marriages. Same sex marriage has never existed in written law before the 21st century.
Even if true, idiot, so what?
Brian_G wrote:
Forcing Christians to attend same sex wedding rituals destroys the concept of religious freedom.
Damn, you are an idiot. Nobody is forcing Christians to attend squat.
Brian_G wrote:
They would stand for an atheist's right to not attend a religious ceremony; why would you force Christians to attend a religious ceremony?
:p((^))

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#3085 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
- A Methodist church in New Jersey was sued for not offering its facility for use during same-sex weddings. A judge ruled against the church.
- A same-sex couple from California sued a Hawaiian bed and breakfast privately owned by a Christian woman for not allowing them to rent a room.

- A bed and breakfast in Alton privately owned by a Christian couple was sued when they would not host a same-sex civil union ceremony.
- Owners of a small, privately owned inn in Vermont declined to host a same sex wedding reception due to their religious views and were sued.
Good, bigotry should get special consideration just because it's based on absurd beliefs in your god.
Brian_G wrote:
- An employee of Allstate insurance wrote an essay online disagreeing with same-sex marriage and was reportedly fired from his job as a result.
- Catholic Charities was barred from assisting in adoptions in Massachusetts, Washington, D.C., and Illinois and excluded from future contracts because it declined to consider same sex couples. Sorry kids, but the agenda impresarios need to make an example.
There are even more examples. The fight has only just begun. Might as well stop trying to convince yourself it hasn't.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/26/gay...
BS. Catholic Charities chose to quit.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#3086 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I try to make my arguments attractive to homosexuals. Many homosexuals defend marriage as one man and one woman. Thanks for helping make the case.
Yeah, your attempts are like telling black people they should have to sit in the back of the bus hoping to make your arguments attractive to them.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#3087 Oct 24, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
<quoted text>
The vendor isn't being "forced to attend a same sex wedding ritual", Brian. They're being asked to provide they goods and services purport to be in business to provide to the general public. Running a business is not an act of worship so no religious liberty is involved.
<quoted text>
Discrimination is based on the characteristic of those being discriminated against, Brian, not the characteristics of those inflicting the discrimination. Whether a perpetrator of discrimination has religious beliefs or not is irrelevant.
<quoted text>
Where's the Christian's obedience to their own scripture that commands them to obey civil authorities and civil laws?
Oooh...you really handed Brian's backside to him on a silver platter!

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#3088 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>So, every child is born of male/female union. R.T. does know about the birds and the bees, right?
Same sex marriage is like science fiction sex; makes a good read but doesn't work in real life. The first couple to sue the State of Massachusetts for same sex marriage divorced. Marriage isn't for everyone.
Your parents divorced. Does that mean we should have straight marriage?

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Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#3089 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I try to make my arguments attractive to homosexuals. Many homosexuals defend marriage as one man and one woman. Thanks for helping make the case.
Yeah?!! So name two...

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Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#3090 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
- A Methodist church in New Jersey was sued for not offering its facility for use during same-sex weddings. A judge ruled against the church.
- A same-sex couple from California sued a Hawaiian bed and breakfast privately owned by a Christian woman for not allowing them to rent a room.
- A bed and breakfast in Alton privately owned by a Christian couple was sued when they would not host a same-sex civil union ceremony.
- Owners of a small, privately owned inn in Vermont declined to host a same sex wedding reception due to their religious views and were sued.
- An employee of Allstate insurance wrote an essay online disagreeing with same-sex marriage and was reportedly fired from his job as a result.
- Catholic Charities was barred from assisting in adoptions in Massachusetts, Washington, D.C., and Illinois and excluded from future contracts because it declined to consider same sex couples. Sorry kids, but the agenda impresarios need to make an example.
There are even more examples. The fight has only just begun. Might as well stop trying to convince yourself it hasn't.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/26/gay...
They call that "discrimination". You are such a bigot you can't see that. If you went to a restaurant and they refused you service due to your religion would that be ok? Better yet would it be ok if they refused to serve you because you are a dipshyt bigot?

“From a distance...”

Since: Apr 08

Planet Earth

#3091 Oct 24, 2013
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Brian_G wrote:
- A Methodist church in New Jersey was sued for not offering its facility for use during same-sex weddings. A judge ruled against the church.
The church rents its facility to the general public as a public accommodation. Doing so makes it a business venture independent of its tax exempt status as a religious group and thus subject to applicable business laws, including anti-discrimination law.

If the church made the facility available only to its members rather than seeking outside revenue, it would be exempt from anti-discrimination laws as a private religious organization and could grant or deny access to members as it saw fit.
Brian_G wrote:
- A same-sex couple from California sued a Hawaiian bed and breakfast privately owned by a Christian woman for not allowing them to rent a room.
Being privately owned doesn't mean the bed and breakfast isn't being run as a business offering accommodations to the general public, thus making it subject to applicable anti-dscrimination laws.
Brian_G wrote:
- A bed and breakfast in Alton privately owned by a Christian couple was sued when they would not host a same-sex civil union ceremony.

- Owners of a small, privately owned inn in Vermont declined to host a same sex wedding reception due to their religious views and were sued.
Again, being privately owned doesn't exempt business owners from compliance with anti-discrimination laws if they offer their facilities to the general public. And if they specifically offer the facility as a wedding venue to the general public, then they may not refuse customers that are members of protected classes.
Brian_G wrote:
- An employee of Allstate insurance wrote an essay online disagreeing with same-sex marriage and was reportedly fired from his job as a result.
Allstate argued in its court filings (yes, this disgruntled Christian actually sued his former employer, Brian!) that the person was fired for fired for "using company resources for his personal journalistic activities", not for his personal views regarding homosexuality.

And BTW, the former Allstate employee was none other than J. Matt Barber who's infamous for his anti-gay screeds as a free lance journalist and a professor/administrator at Liberty University School of Law.
Brian_G wrote:
- Catholic Charities was barred from assisting in adoptions in Massachusetts, Washington, D.C., and Illinois and excluded from future contracts because it declined to consider same sex couples. Sorry kids, but the agenda impresarios need to make an example.
[ibid]
The Catholic Church was more interested in imposing its religious beliefs on society than it was in placing orphans and wards of the state with in accordance with the policies of the states that hired Catholic Charities to assist in adoption placement.

“From a distance...”

Since: Apr 08

Planet Earth

#3092 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I try to make my arguments attractive to homosexuals.
Not advocating discrimination against and violation of their fundamental rights would be a start, Brian.
Brian_G wrote:
Many homosexuals defend marriage as one man and one woman.
Far more straight people support same sex marriage.
Brian_G wrote:
Thanks for helping make the case.
You don't need any help making the case you're a bigot, Brian; you do that quite well all by yourself.

“From a distance...”

Since: Apr 08

Planet Earth

#3093 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>So, every child is born of male/female union. R.T. does know about the birds and the bees, right?
Brian does know that humans don't have to be married to procreate, right?
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage is like science fiction sex; makes a good read but doesn't work in real life.
Gee, neither did your parents marriage work, Brian since it ended in divorce. Guess you're the product of bad science fiction sex, huh?
Brian_G wrote:
The first couple to sue the State of Massachusetts for same sex marriage divorced. Marriage isn't for everyone.
Just like your opposite sex parents, Brian. They're no better than gays; imagine that.

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Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3094 Oct 25, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
Yeah?!! So name two...
There are so many, where to begin?

Oppose Same-Sex Marriage
by Doug Mainwaring
within Marriage
http://www.th epublicdi scourse.com/2013/03/9432/

Dolce & Gabbana: drama that could only be fashioned in Italy
Cristina Odone talks to Dolce and Gabbana on tax evasion, why they love the Duchess of Cambridge and why they don’t believe in gay marriage...

The two men so cherish the idea of the family, had they ever thought of getting married.“What?! Never!” they answer in chorus,“I don’t believe in gay marriage.” Dolce laughs. In Catholic Italy, has their sexuality proved a problem?“No, never,” says Dolce.“The fashion industry is full of gays.”....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/1029...

Xavier Bongibault, a member of a group called Plus Gay Sans Mariage -- More Gay Without Marriage
http://www.homovox.com/

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/0...

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Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3095 Oct 25, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
...Just like your opposite sex parents, Brian. They're no better than gays; imagine that.
There's nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality. Same sex marriage harms gays most, distracting us with this new radical redefinition of marriage while gays are being persecuted and slaughtered in Russia and the Muslim world.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#3096 Oct 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>There's nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality. Same sex marriage harms gays most, distracting us with this new radical redefinition of marriage while gays are being persecuted and slaughtered in Russia and the Muslim world.
One man, one woman was the radical redefinition of marriage. We're fixing that now.

Thank us later if you must. If not, we'll understand.

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Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3097 Oct 25, 2013
Before the 21st century, all marriage laws defined marriage as male/female. Same sex marriage has never been found in written law before this century.

The left wants to destroy gender, family and every institution not controlled by government. That's why same sex marriage is the death of freedom.

If you don't think they want to control you, explain why they let Christians be sued for their religious convictions.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#3098 Oct 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Before the 21st century, all marriage laws defined marriage as male/female. Same sex marriage has never been found in written law before this century.
........in why they let Christians be sued for their religious convictions.
Actually, you are quite wrong. Most marriage laws didn't not specify gender in that way until recently, until they were radically redefined to specifically exclude same sex couples.

We are busy overturning these new laws and bans now.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#3099 Oct 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
...
The left wants to destroy gender, family and every institution not controlled by government. That's why same sex marriage is the death of freedom.
.......
Oh my! That's the worst one yet.

Please prove that the "left" is trying to destroy gender, or family. Prove that gay people marrying will destroy the very notion of marriage.

And, no, you can't bring up business owners who illegally discriminate against the very public they agree to serve when they obtained a business license.

You are stepping farther and farther away from reality, and sanity.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#3100 Oct 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Of course these suits are about forcing Christians to participate in same sex wedding ceremonies that violate their religious beliefs. Would it be OK to sue an atheist florist, baker or photographer who refused to participate in your religious ritual?
Same sex marriage is the death of freedom.
Brian, you are an idiot.
It is about equal protection of the law and non-discrimination.

These business owners can no more deny their services to those who don't meet their religious moral standards, than I can force you to abide by Sharia law.

An individual has the right to choose and abide by the faith of their choosing (including none at all). THey do not have the right to force others to comply to their religious standards.

You are an idiot, a bigot, and a hypocrite, who is ignorant os the law and the US Constitution.

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Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3101 Oct 25, 2013
Quest wrote:
Actually, you are quite wrong. Most marriage laws didn't not specify gender in that way until recently, until they were radically redefined to specifically exclude same sex couples. We are busy overturning these new laws and bans now.
There is no copy of any pre21st century law that licensed same sex marriage. All marriage was male/female by custom as well as law.

Same sex marriage is taboo.

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Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3102 Oct 25, 2013
Quest wrote:
Oh my! That's the worst one yet. Please prove that the "left" is trying to destroy gender, or family. Prove that gay people marrying will destroy the very notion of marriage. And, no, you can't bring up business owners who illegally discriminate against the very public they agree to serve when they obtained a business license. You are stepping farther and farther away from reality, and sanity.
There are many conservative gays, the left and gays aren't the same. Gays have always married under the same laws as everyone else and that causes no destruction. Same sex marriage destroys and makes both husbands and wives disposable in marriage.

Same sex marriage is sex segregation marriage where marriage was sex integrated and diverse.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#3103 Oct 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Before the 21st century, all marriage laws defined marriage as male/female. Same sex marriage has never been found in written law before this century.
The left wants to destroy gender, family and every institution not controlled by government. That's why same sex marriage is the death of freedom.
If you don't think they want to control you, explain why they let Christians be sued for their religious convictions.
Creationism is no excuse to hate on gays Brian. You've tried your bullsh*t once now and its failed to get through.

You can't disguise hateful prejudice as religious freedom as much as you try.

When you can prove your god, then all your stupid opinions will apply, but you will never do this and you know it.

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