Atheism and homosexuality

Atheism and homosexuality

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Creationist scientists and creationist assert that the theory of evolution cannot account for the origin of gender and sexual reproduction.http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/136http://www.answersingenesis.org/pbs_nova/0928ep5.asp [[Creation Ministries International]] states: "Homosexual acts go against [[God]]'s original [[Intelligent design ... (more)

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“From a distance...”

Since: Apr 08

Planet Earth

#3064 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
^^^This is untrue, I've always written there is nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality.
^^^This is untrue, you've always advocated discrimination against and infringement of the fundamental rights of gays.
Brian_G wrote:
It's Skeptic who writes of "homosexual hate".
Advocating discrimination and infringement of other people's civil rights isn't an act of love, Brian.
Brian_G wrote:
I'm trying to argue to reason, not to ad hominem irrationality and defamation.
Correctly noting you argue from prejudice is neither an ad hominem attack nor defamation, Brian. I's simply truth.
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage is bad because it harms homosexuals more than any other group.
Another lie. Does it please your deity that you lie on its behalf, Brian?
Brian_G wrote:
If you care about gays, know every gay was born of male/female union.
The issue is marriage, Brian, not procreation.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3065 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain how forcing Christians to attend same sex wedding rituals isn't about "religious liberty"? By "same rules" you mean it would be legal to force atheists to attend too? Where's the tolerance when it comes to suing Christian wedding vendors?
no christians were forced to attend same sex wedding rituals. this is just a lie you knowingly repeat, even when it has been proven to you to be a lie.

but then you religious cult freaks are all about lying. your entire cult is based on a proven lies..

“From a distance...”

Since: Apr 08

Planet Earth

#3066 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Bardwell is a Democrat, not a religious Christian or a conservative. His grounds are racial, not religious.
Actually, he switched his political party affiliation to Republican in 2008, Brian. Guess he thought the republicans were a better long term match for his obvious racism than the democrats.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#3067 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
They don't have the right to refuse service to a same sex wedding ritual; you don't have a problem with that restriction to religious liberty? Could they compel atheists as well as Christians to attend these ceremonies? What kind of freedom is that?
Same sex marriage is the death of freedom.
O hai Bri! I see you have to lie again, claiming that taking away people's rights equates to freedom. Nice argument. It'll work on the stupid. But hey, it's the source of your votes.(shrug)

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3068 Oct 24, 2013
Of course these suits are about forcing Christians to participate in same sex wedding ceremonies that violate their religious beliefs. Would it be OK to sue an atheist florist, baker or photographer who refused to participate in your religious ritual?

Same sex marriage is the death of freedom.

“From a distance...”

Since: Apr 08

Planet Earth

#3069 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Of course these suits are about forcing Christians to participate in same sex wedding ceremonies that violate their religious beliefs.
Of course you're just lying again, Brian.
Brian_G wrote:
Would it be OK to sue an atheist florist, baker or photographer who refused to participate in your religious ritual?
If the reason given was the sexual orientation of the person desiring to purchase the businesses' goods or services and the business was subject to an anti-discrimination law that prohibited discrimination based on sexual orientation - yes.
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage is the death of freedom.
Bigots like you are the birth of tyranny.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#3070 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Of course these suits are about forcing Christians to participate in same sex wedding ceremonies that violate their religious beliefs. Would it be OK to sue an atheist florist, baker or photographer who refused to participate in your religious ritual?
Same sex marriage is the death of freedom.
Drama Queen

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3071 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Of course these suits are about forcing Christians to participate in same sex wedding ceremonies that violate their religious beliefs. Would it be OK to sue an atheist florist, baker or photographer who refused to participate in your religious ritual?
Same sex marriage is the death of freedom.
no it is clearly and irrefutably about public business having to obey the laws of our nation.

these people were not asked to participate in any ceremonies, they were hired to provide the services they hung their shingle out to do. and to so so equally to all members of our society.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3072 Oct 24, 2013
- A Methodist church in New Jersey was sued for not offering its facility for use during same-sex weddings. A judge ruled against the church.

- A same-sex couple from California sued a Hawaiian bed and breakfast privately owned by a Christian woman for not allowing them to rent a room.

- A bed and breakfast in Alton privately owned by a Christian couple was sued when they would not host a same-sex civil union ceremony.

- Owners of a small, privately owned inn in Vermont declined to host a same sex wedding reception due to their religious views and were sued.

- An employee of Allstate insurance wrote an essay online disagreeing with same-sex marriage and was reportedly fired from his job as a result.

- Catholic Charities was barred from assisting in adoptions in Massachusetts, Washington, D.C., and Illinois and excluded from future contracts because it declined to consider same sex couples. Sorry kids, but the agenda impresarios need to make an example.

There are even more examples. The fight has only just begun. Might as well stop trying to convince yourself it hasn't.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/26/gay...

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3073 Oct 24, 2013
Just Think wrote:
Drama Queen
I try to make my arguments attractive to homosexuals. Many homosexuals defend marriage as one man and one woman. Thanks for helping make the case.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3074 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
- A Methodist church in New Jersey was sued for not offering its facility for use during same-sex weddings. A judge ruled against the church.
- A same-sex couple from California sued a Hawaiian bed and breakfast privately owned by a Christian woman for not allowing them to rent a room.
- A bed and breakfast in Alton privately owned by a Christian couple was sued when they would not host a same-sex civil union ceremony.
- Owners of a small, privately owned inn in Vermont declined to host a same sex wedding reception due to their religious views and were sued.
- An employee of Allstate insurance wrote an essay online disagreeing with same-sex marriage and was reportedly fired from his job as a result.
- Catholic Charities was barred from assisting in adoptions in Massachusetts, Washington, D.C., and Illinois and excluded from future contracts because it declined to consider same sex couples. Sorry kids, but the agenda impresarios need to make an example.
There are even more examples. The fight has only just begun. Might as well stop trying to convince yourself it hasn't.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/26/gay...
yes, all perfect examples of people running businesses open to the public that have to follow the laws of our land on discrimination. they are not being denied their religious liberty, they are being forced to follow the same laws any other person would have to...

sorry charlie, you lose...big time. your bigotry and prejudice is clouding your judgment, making you look like a foolish ass...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3075 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
- A Methodist church in New Jersey was sued for not offering its facility for use during same-sex weddings. A judge ruled against the church.
- A same-sex couple from California sued a Hawaiian bed and breakfast privately owned by a Christian woman for not allowing them to rent a room.
- A bed and breakfast in Alton privately owned by a Christian couple was sued when they would not host a same-sex civil union ceremony.
- Owners of a small, privately owned inn in Vermont declined to host a same sex wedding reception due to their religious views and were sued.
- An employee of Allstate insurance wrote an essay online disagreeing with same-sex marriage and was reportedly fired from his job as a result.
- Catholic Charities was barred from assisting in adoptions in Massachusetts, Washington, D.C., and Illinois and excluded from future contracts because it declined to consider same sex couples. Sorry kids, but the agenda impresarios need to make an example.
There are even more examples. The fight has only just begun. Might as well stop trying to convince yourself it hasn't.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/26/gay...
so bigot brian...if a bed and breakfast owner refused service to an asian couple, because his religion told him this was what he should do, do you think he should be able to do this legally in the US?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#3076 Oct 24, 2013
River Tam wrote:
Do you have a point with that? You do know that lesbians can bear children without the male being present, right? e don't need the male. We just need a farmer to milk him. For now. We'll find a way to procreate without males eventually but for now, we'll keep you around.
So, every child is born of male/female union. R.T. does know about the birds and the bees, right?

Same sex marriage is like science fiction sex; makes a good read but doesn't work in real life. The first couple to sue the State of Massachusetts for same sex marriage divorced. Marriage isn't for everyone.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#3077 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
- A Methodist church in New Jersey was sued for not offering its facility for use during same-sex weddings. A judge ruled against the church.
- A same-sex couple from California sued a Hawaiian bed and breakfast privately owned by a Christian woman for not allowing them to rent a room.
- A bed and breakfast in Alton privately owned by a Christian couple was sued when they would not host a same-sex civil union ceremony.
- Owners of a small, privately owned inn in Vermont declined to host a same sex wedding reception due to their religious views and were sued.
- An employee of Allstate insurance wrote an essay online disagreeing with same-sex marriage and was reportedly fired from his job as a result.
- Catholic Charities was barred from assisting in adoptions in Massachusetts, Washington, D.C., and Illinois and excluded from future contracts because it declined to consider same sex couples. Sorry kids, but the agenda impresarios need to make an example.
There are even more examples. The fight has only just begun. Might as well stop trying to convince yourself it hasn't.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/26/gay...
Poor, pathetic Brian - still reduced to lying to support your hatred.

The Methodist "facility" in question was a boardwalk pavilion they operated as a business - not the church itself. If you operate a business, you have to follow the law - including non-discrimination laws. If your religion were to say that your business doesn't have to serve African Americans, you get shut down. Suck it up, buttercup.

All the other businesses on your list? Same issue.

The State Farm employee? Businesses can fire you for any reason they want if you are an "at will" employee, as most people are. If you go online and start making racist comments, you're going to get fired. Same with homophobic comments. You lose.

The adoption issue - flat out lie. None of them were barred from assisting in adoptions. They were more than welcome to keep helping, so long as they followed the law. Their beliefs didn't agree with the law, so they CHOSE to withdraw from the adoption arena.

The law isn't on your side over there on the wrong side of history.

Poor, sad, lying Brian...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3078 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>So, every child is born of male/female union. R.T. does know about the birds and the bees, right?
Same sex marriage is like science fiction sex; makes a good read but doesn't work in real life. The first couple to sue the State of Massachusetts for same sex marriage divorced. Marriage isn't for everyone.
in fact it works great in real life, just like every other marriage.

can't address the purposeful lies you posted, huh?

sad that you have to lie for your prejudice and fear...

doesn't that religious cult you belong to have rules about lying?

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#3079 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I try to make my arguments attractive to homosexuals. Many homosexuals defend marriage as one man and one woman. Thanks for helping make the case.
Many homosexuals do not defend marriage as one man and one woman. You cannot make an argument against homosexuality and make it an attractive argument. There is something severely wrong with your line of thinking.
LCNLin

United States

#3080 Oct 24, 2013
A controversial Oxford University professor billed by many as the world's "most famous atheist"

now says he is not 100 percent sure

that God doesn't exist -- but just barely.

In a 100-minute debate with Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, Richard Dawkins surprised his online and theater audiences by conceding a personal chink of doubt about his conviction that there is no such thing as a creator.

But, to the amusement of the archbishop and others, the evolutionary biologist swiftly added that he was "6.9 out of seven" certain of his long-standing atheist beliefs.

Replying to moderator Anthony Kenny, a noted English philosopher, Dawkins said, "I think the probability of a supernatural creator existing (is) very, very low."

Dawkins, author of "The God Delusion" and other best-sellers, is a leader of the "New Atheist" movement that aggressively challenges belief in God and criticizes harm done in the name of religion.

"What I can't understand is why you can't see (that life started from nothing and) is such a staggering, elegant, beautiful thing, why would you want to clutter it up with something so messy as a God," Dawkins told Williams, according to The Daily Telegraph account.

The archbishop, who heads both the Church of England and the worldwide Anglican Communion, replied that he "entirely agreed" with the "beauty" part of Dawkins' statement -- but said "I'm not talking about God as an extra who you can shoehorn onto that."

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#3081 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>So, every child is born of male/female union. R.T. does know about the birds and the bees, right?
Same sex marriage is like science fiction sex; makes a good read but doesn't work in real life. The first couple to sue the State of Massachusetts for same sex marriage divorced. Marriage isn't for everyone.
You do not have to have a union between two people of the opposite sex to have a child.... Have you ever heard of a sperm bank??? I'm so very curious to hear what you think happens with all of that sperm lol

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#3082 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain how forcing Christians to attend same sex wedding rituals isn't about "religious liberty"? By "same rules" you mean it would be legal to force atheists to attend too? Where's the tolerance when it comes to suing Christian wedding vendors?
Look you stupid sow, nobody is forcing Christians to attend anything. So, just STFU, OK?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#3083 Oct 24, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't used religion or -Skeptic-'s "god" to justify my argument; religious liberty applies to atheists too. Please stick to the point; same sex marriage is the death of freedom.
Such a damn drama queen.

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