Atheism and homosexuality

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Creationist scientists and creationist assert that the theory of evolution cannot account for the origin of gender and sexual reproduction.http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/136http://www.answersingenesis.org/pbs_nova/0928ep5.asp [[Creation Ministries International]] states: "Homosexual acts go against [[God]]'s original [[Intelligent design ... (more)

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#2604 Sep 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Culture works as well as religion;
So long as it is producing bigoted morons like yourself, that is to say it works not at all.

Idiot.
Crolath

Shingletown, CA

#2605 Sep 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Culture works as well as religion; male/female marriage is a universal cultural constant. Please explain how everyone who doesn't support the radical redefinition of marriage is a bigot. Please list all valid reasons for keeping or changing marriage law.
You're the one radically redefining marriage. Traditional marriage is a man and a captured sex slave, or a man and several concubines, or a man and his rape victim, etc, etc.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2606 Sep 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Culture works as well as religion; male/female marriage is a universal cultural constant.
False.

In many-many cultures, male/female/female/... is the norm.

In several **other** cultures, female/female/male is the norm.

In quite a few Pacific Island cultures? It's neither of these-- people simply don't bother to get married at all, it's more of a free-for all and the children are raised by the extended family group.

So it is far from "universal" as you claim.

NOT EVEN YOUR BIBLE AGREES! Your bible has many examples of my first set: male/female/female/female... out to 1000 wives or more.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2607 Sep 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Please explain how everyone who doesn't support the radical redefinition of marriage is a bigot.
The total-sum of all of YOUR HATE-FILLED POSTS.

That?

That totality of hate that you have created?

Is ample proof of the bigotry of gay-haters.

WHY do you hate yourself so much?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#2608 Sep 20, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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You're lying again since it's not even a Terran cultural constant.
And it's not even an American cultural constant. If it were, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Poor Brian.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2609 Sep 20, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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And it's not even an American cultural constant. If it were, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Poor Brian.
Indeed not.

Since: Jun 13

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#2610 Sep 20, 2013
No one should be able to tell someone who they can and can't marry. I don't care I you have a religion or if you don't. Someone marrying someone of the same sex does not have any affect on your life...AT ALL. Marriage is not a religious situation...it is a legal situation. You can just as easily be married by the courthouse as you can by a preacher. This is no different than people who say that people of offerer races shouldn't marry... You do not own any rights to another persons life and it's not your right to attempt to control another person in any way...especially if it causes no disruption to your life except for your personal (emotional) opinion on the matter. Sometimes people do thing that make me uncomfortable *ahem christians...however since there is nothing I can do about their beliefs I just have to try to educate people on this exact fact, which is everyone should have a right to there own beliefs as long as it does not infringe on other people and it doesn't bring harm to another person in any way.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#2611 Sep 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
http://www.politifact.com/flor ida/statements/2013/jul/08/ton y-perkins/wedding-vendors-have -been-forced-participate-same- /
Wedding vendors have been forced to participate in same-sex marriages under threat or even jail, Family Research Council president says
One of the founders of the Family Research Council (George Rekers) was caught with a male escort from rentboy dot com.
He said he didn't know what the site was for. If you're over 18, put the link together and tell me you don't know what the site is for...
Brian_G wrote:
Lets step away for a moment from the political implications of the U.S. Supreme Court decisions on same-sex marriage and fast-forward straight to the wedding day: What does it mean for those who make the white-tiered frosted wedding cake, arrange the bouquet tossed by the bride, or snap the "I Do" pics?
Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, said on CBS Face the Nation a few days after the ruling that such wedding vendors have already been "forced" to serve same-sex couples.
Boo hoo. They should be grateful for the business.
Brian_G wrote:
"We're already seeing bakers and florists and photographers forced to participate in same-sex marriages under the threat of law and in some cases even jail. I can't think of anything that's more un-American than that.... "
Host Bob Schieffer responded: "How is it that bakers and florists are being forced to participate in this? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here."
Perkins replied: "Well, we're seeing in Washington state, Colorado, and some of the other states that have these anti-discrimination statutes that are being imposed, that when a same-sex couple comes and says,I want you to take pictures of my wedding, or I want you to bake a cake. And they say,Look, my religious convictions will not allow me participate in that, they're literally being sued by the government, not the individuals, and they've even been adjudicated in such places as New Mexico. So we're going to see a loss of religious freedom. There is no question about it. It's already happening."....
Where did I put my violin?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#2612 Sep 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
When Christian wedding vendors refuse to participate in same sex marriage, they are the sacrifices to the left's god of Equality. That's how these PC laws take away individual freedom. Where's the tolerance for Christianity?
Same sex marriage is bad because its supporters sue Christians.
What about tolerance for Christianity? If Christians don't want to sprinkle holy water on a gay couple, fine. But out in the business world, they should have to follow the same laws everybody else does.
Gay marriage is good because its supporters sue people who break the law, be they Christians or not.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#2613 Sep 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Immoral laws must be broken, that's the duty of every citizen. It's wrong to force Christians to participate in same sex weddings. Have a little respect for your neighbors.
I'd have no respect for anybody who refused to provide services to a gay wedding because of their bigotry.

Since: Oct 10

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#2614 Sep 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
No
There ya go. The answer to all your arguments.

Good work, Brian.

“Merry Yuletide”

Since: Jun 13

Down Under

#2615 Sep 21, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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One of the founders of the Family Research Council (George Rekers) was caught with a male escort from rentboy dot com.
He said he didn't know what the site was for. If you're over 18, put the link together and tell me you don't know what the site is for...
<quoted text>
Boo hoo. They should be grateful for the business.
<quoted text>
Where did I put my violin?
As if anyone doesn't know what a rentboy is.

Rekers brought a new expression into the language - "luggage lifter". How many shirts in his luggage?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...

Since: Jun 07

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#2616 Sep 21, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I'd have no respect for anybody who refused to provide services to a gay wedding because of their bigotry.
Creationists believe that denying the real world is virtue.

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Since: Dec 08

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#2617 Sep 21, 2013
Wolfgang E B wrote:
"The radical redefinition of marriage" = Hyperbole with an agenda.
I disagree, througout history in every culture, marriage is depicted as male/female. Same sex marriage is a redical redefinition, removing the perfect integration and diversity to replace it with segregation.

What other change to marriage has the significance of removing the concept of gender and making it unisex? Can you cite any classical or renaissance arguments for of same sex marriage?

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Since: Dec 08

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#2618 Sep 21, 2013
Just Think wrote:
Are there other groups that you think it should be legal to discriminate against...or just homosexuals?
Those three Christians didn't discriminate against homosexuals, the suit was brought by patrons who were happy with past service. The issue is same sex marriage, not sexual orientation. I'm sure all three Christians would have refused to service a heterosexual couple's same sex wedding.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#2619 Sep 21, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Those three Christians didn't discriminate against homosexuals, the suit was brought by patrons who were happy with past service. The issue is same sex marriage, not sexual orientation. I'm sure all three Christians would have refused to service a heterosexual couple's same sex wedding.
Brian, the issue is that the proprietors broke the law, and that they did so only when they became aware of the client's sexuality.
You are an idiot who defends people who break the law.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#2620 Sep 21, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree, througout history in every culture, marriage is depicted as male/female. Same sex marriage is a redical redefinition, removing the perfect integration and diversity to replace it with segregation.
What other change to marriage has the significance of removing the concept of gender and making it unisex? Can you cite any classical or renaissance arguments for of same sex marriage?
Once again, you lie.
http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers...
http://www.randomhistory.com/history-of-gay-m...

Since: Apr 09

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#2621 Sep 21, 2013
lides wrote:
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Brian, the issue is that the proprietors broke the law, and that they did so only when they became aware of the client's sexuality.
You are an idiot who defends people who break the law.
Brian can't help but lie when reality and facts get in the way...

Since: Jun 07

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#2622 Sep 21, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree, througout history in every culture, marriage is depicted as male/female. Same sex marriage is a redical redefinition, removing the perfect integration and diversity to replace it with segregation.
What other change to marriage has the significance of removing the concept of gender and making it unisex? Can you cite any classical or renaissance arguments for of same sex marriage?
The opinions of creationist trolls like Brian G are largely worthless until they can prove the god they are paid to lie about here.

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Since: Dec 08

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#2623 Sep 21, 2013
lides wrote:
Nothing in the citation answers or disputes: "througout history in every culture, marriage is depicted as male/female. Same sex marriage is a r[a]dical redefinition, removing the perfect integration and diversity to replace it with segregation. What other change to marriage has the significance of removing the concept of gender and making it unisex? Can you cite any classical or renaissance arguments for of same sex marriage?"

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