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...And why do his followers keep bothering atheists if he created them, and everything he created was perfect???

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A student of Rabbi Zusha of Anipoli once asked him why God allowed atheism to flourish in the world.

“Atheism,” answered Rabbi Zusha,“is one of the most important doctrines in the world. Imagine if a believer sees a hungry man in the street. He would say,‘I hope God will help him.’ But when an atheist sees him, he runs to help because he thinks he is the only one who can assist him!”
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Hedonist wrote:
A student of Rabbi Zusha of Anipoli once asked him why God allowed atheism to flourish in the world.
“Atheism,” answered Rabbi Zusha,“is one of the most important doctrines in the world. Imagine if a believer sees a hungry man in the street. He would say,‘I hope God will help him.’ But when an atheist sees him, he runs to help because he thinks he is the only one who can assist him!”
I am only replying because your post needs repeating.

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Hedonist wrote:
A student of Rabbi Zusha of Anipoli once asked him why God allowed atheism to flourish in the world.
“Atheism,” answered Rabbi Zusha,“is one of the most important doctrines in the world. Imagine if a believer sees a hungry man in the street. He would say,‘I hope God will help him.’ But when an atheist sees him, he runs to help because he thinks he is the only one who can assist him!”
This is great!Two hands working get alot more done than a thousand hands clasped in prayer. Cosign.

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#5
Aug 7, 2012
 
Actually it was an atheist that created god.

So without atheist there would be no god for the gullible.
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To test the faith of the believers.

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Aug 8, 2012
 
Sikh wrote:
To test the faith of the believers.
Well, what do you know... and all this time I thought its apparent nonexistence was what did that.

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Aug 8, 2012
 
Very well said!
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This is great!Two hands working get alot more done than a thousand hands clasped in prayer. Cosign.

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Aug 9, 2012
 
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Very well said!
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it is a quote forgot the authors name.

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-Skeptic- wrote:
...And why do his followers keep bothering atheists if he created them, and everything he created was perfect???
The atheist wasn't created, it is the theist who is "created".

Atheist is the default, everything that is free of theism, is atheist. And all theist, were atheist, before indoctrination.

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This is true. If one wasn't indoctrinated in religious rubbish they wouldn't believe in gods.
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<quoted text>The atheist wasn't created, it is the theist who is "created".
Atheist is the default, everything that is free of theism, is atheist. And all theist, were atheist, before indoctrination.

“There are other issues.”

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God didn't create atheists. People just have the freedom of choice, that's all. People have choice to act good or bad. God doesn't control that obviously. Lol!

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Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>The atheist wasn't created, it is the theist who is "created".
Atheist is the default, everything that is free of theism, is atheist. And all theist, were atheist, before indoctrination.
Lame!

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Educated What wrote:
God didn't create atheists. People just have the freedom of choice, that's all. People have choice to act good or bad. God doesn't control that obviously. Lol!
What choice do newborn babies have with respect to religion?
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Aug 10, 2012
 
Educated What wrote:
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Lame!
No, accurate. If you want lame, read the Bible..

The Bible was written in 3 languages by approximately 40 men of diverse backgrounds over the course of 1500 years.
Here is a list of the books in order with the author and approximate date they were written.

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy = Moses - 1400 B.C.
Joshua = Joshua - 1350 B.C.
Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel = Samuel/Nathan/Gad - 1000 - 900 B.C.
1 Kings, 2 Kings = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah = Ezra - 450 B.C.
Esther = Mordecai - 400 B.C.
Job = Moses - 1400 B.C.
Psalms = several different authors, mostly David - 1000 - 400 B.C.
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon = Solomon - 900 B.C.
Isaiah = Isaiah - 700 B.C.
Jeremiah, Lamentations = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
Ezekiel = Ezekiel - 550 B.C.
Daniel = Daniel - 550 B.C.
Hosea = Hosea - 750 B.C.
Joel = Joel - 850 B.C.
Amos = Amos - 750 B.C.
Obadiah = Obadiah - 600 B.C.
Jonah = Jonah - 700 B.C.
Micah = Micah - 700 B.C.
Nahum = Nahum - 650 B.C.
Habakkuk = Habakkuk - 600 B.C.
Zephaniah = Zephaniah - 650 B.C.
Haggai = Haggai - 520 B.C.
Zechariah = Zechariah - 500 B.C.
Malachi = Malachi - 430 B.C.
Matthew = Matthew - A.D. 55
Mark = John Mark - A.D. 50
Luke = Luke - A.D. 60
John = John - A.D. 90
Acts = Luke - A.D. 65
Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon = Paul - A.D. 50-70
Hebrews = unknown, mostly likely Paul, Luke, Barnabas, or Apollos - A.D. 65
James = James - A.D. 45
1 Peter, 2 Peter = Peter - A.D. 60
1 John, 2 John, 3 John = John - A.D. 90
Jude = Jude - A.D. 60
Revelation = John - A.D. 90

Now that's lame!

Religion = superstition
Theology =(lame) mythology

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EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>No, accurate. If you want lame, read the Bible..

The Bible was written in 3 languages by approximately 40 men of diverse backgrounds over the course of 1500 years.
Here is a list of the books in order with the author and approximate date they were written.

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy = Moses - 1400 B.C.
Joshua = Joshua - 1350 B.C.
Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel = Samuel/Nathan/Gad - 1000 - 900 B.C.
1 Kings, 2 Kings = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah = Ezra - 450 B.C.
Esther = Mordecai - 400 B.C.
Job = Moses - 1400 B.C.
Psalms = several different authors, mostly David - 1000 - 400 B.C.
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon = Solomon - 900 B.C.
Isaiah = Isaiah - 700 B.C.
Jeremiah, Lamentations = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
Ezekiel = Ezekiel - 550 B.C.
Daniel = Daniel - 550 B.C.
Hosea = Hosea - 750 B.C.
Joel = Joel - 850 B.C.
Amos = Amos - 750 B.C.
Obadiah = Obadiah - 600 B.C.
Jonah = Jonah - 700 B.C.
Micah = Micah - 700 B.C.
Nahum = Nahum - 650 B.C.
Habakkuk = Habakkuk - 600 B.C.
Zephaniah = Zephaniah - 650 B.C.
Haggai = Haggai - 520 B.C.
Zechariah = Zechariah - 500 B.C.
Malachi = Malachi - 430 B.C.
Matthew = Matthew - A.D. 55
Mark = John Mark - A.D. 50
Luke = Luke - A.D. 60
John = John - A.D. 90
Acts = Luke - A.D. 65
Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon = Paul - A.D. 50-70
Hebrews = unknown, mostly likely Paul, Luke, Barnabas, or Apollos - A.D. 65
James = James - A.D. 45
1 Peter, 2 Peter = Peter - A.D. 60
1 John, 2 John, 3 John = John - A.D. 90
Jude = Jude - A.D. 60
Revelation = John - A.D. 90

Now that's lame!

Religion = superstition
Theology =(lame) mythology
Lame to you but not lame to me. Religion may be superstition to you but not to me.

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<quoted text>What choice do newborn babies have with respect to religion?
Religion is not bad. Of course a typical atheist will bring up history, and 911 but in my beliefs those were still the choices of people. Some are good with persuasive speaking. A child raised by religious people are productive. I see it everywhere. Remember many atheists were religious at one time. When people grow older, they have choices. You cannot judge people on their beliefs just because you don't believe. On that same note I shouldn't judge you either. I won't.

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Aug 10, 2012
 
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>No, accurate. If you want lame, read the Bible..
The Bible was written in 3 languages by approximately 40 men of diverse backgrounds over the course of 1500 years.
Here is a list of the books in order with the author and approximate date they were written.
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy = Moses - 1400 B.C.
Joshua = Joshua - 1350 B.C.
Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel = Samuel/Nathan/Gad - 1000 - 900 B.C.
1 Kings, 2 Kings = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah = Ezra - 450 B.C.
Esther = Mordecai - 400 B.C.
Job = Moses - 1400 B.C.
Psalms = several different authors, mostly David - 1000 - 400 B.C.
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon = Solomon - 900 B.C.
Isaiah = Isaiah - 700 B.C.
Jeremiah, Lamentations = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
Ezekiel = Ezekiel - 550 B.C.
Daniel = Daniel - 550 B.C.
Hosea = Hosea - 750 B.C.
Joel = Joel - 850 B.C.
Amos = Amos - 750 B.C.
Obadiah = Obadiah - 600 B.C.
Jonah = Jonah - 700 B.C.
Micah = Micah - 700 B.C.
Nahum = Nahum - 650 B.C.
Habakkuk = Habakkuk - 600 B.C.
Zephaniah = Zephaniah - 650 B.C.
Haggai = Haggai - 520 B.C.
Zechariah = Zechariah - 500 B.C.
Malachi = Malachi - 430 B.C.
Matthew = Matthew - A.D. 55
Mark = John Mark - A.D. 50
Luke = Luke - A.D. 60
John = John - A.D. 90
Acts = Luke - A.D. 65
Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon = Paul - A.D. 50-70
Hebrews = unknown, mostly likely Paul, Luke, Barnabas, or Apollos - A.D. 65
James = James - A.D. 45
1 Peter, 2 Peter = Peter - A.D. 60
1 John, 2 John, 3 John = John - A.D. 90
Jude = Jude - A.D. 60
Revelation = John - A.D. 90
Now that's lame!
Religion = superstition
Theology =(lame) mythology
From the list above it's amazing that nothing in the bible was written during the life of their messiah, the most important figure in their religion. Slight oversight on the collaborators of the book?
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Aug 10, 2012
 
Educated What wrote:
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... Religion may be superstition to you but not to me.
Me? It isn't a matter of you or me.

Most religionists (the reasonable ones) agree that the three-in-one offer of Christianity and that Jesus died for our sins is simply an act of faith, entirely unsubstantiated by any scientific or generally accepted proof.

The dictionary seems to agree...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/religion

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/superstition

I suggest that your statements are a good illustration of what religion does to the human mind's critical faculties.

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Educated What wrote:
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Lame!
Lame response to the truth, should we have expected more?

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