let's make fun of atheists
KJV

United States

#159 May 11, 2013
Lacez wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>I don't believe Lacez believes in God but I do believe Lacez believes there is no God."

I don't believe in any gods, that's it.
If you show me evidence for one, I'll believe in it.
But we all know you won't do that because every person I've asked evidence from doesn't give any.
Part 3

"So, although it would be possible that one or two constants might require unusual fine-tuning by chance, it would be virtually impossible that all of them would require such fine-tuning. Some physicists have indicated that any of a number of different physical laws would be compatible with our present universe. However, it is not just the current state of the universe that must be compatible with the physical laws. Even more stringent are the initial conditions of the universe, since even minor deviations would have completely disrupted the process. For example, adding a grain of sand to the weight of the universe now would have no effect. However, adding even this small amount of weight at the beginning of the universe would have resulted in its collapse early in its history.

What do cosmologists say?
Even though many atheists would like to dismiss such evidence of design, cosmologists know better, and have made statements such as the following, which reveal the depth of the problem for the atheistic worldview:

"This type of universe, however, seems to require a degree of fine-tuning of the initial conditions that is in apparent conflict with 'common wisdom'."
"Polarization is predicted. It's been detected and it's in line with theoretical predictions. We're stuck with this preposterous universe."
"In all of these worlds statistically miraculous (but not impossible) events would be necessary to assemble and preserve the fragile nuclei that would ordinarily be destroyed by the higher temperatures. However, although each of the corresponding histories is extremely unlikely, there are so many more of them than those that evolve without "miracles," that they would vastly dominate the livable universes that would be created by Poincare recurrences. We are forced to conclude that in a recurrent world like de Sitter space our universe would be extraordinarily unlikely"

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_g...
KJV

United States

#160 May 11, 2013
Lacez wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>I don't believe Lacez believes in God but I do believe Lacez believes there is no God."

I don't believe in any gods, that's it.
If you show me evidence for one, I'll believe in it.
But we all know you won't do that because every person I've asked evidence from doesn't give any.
Found this blog quite interesting.
I think he got my name wrong its not Langan it's Langoliers.

"I just finished the book "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell. Among the topics are one on Christopher Langan who has an IQ of 195, which is supposed to be the highest in the world. After finishing the chapter I googled him, and found out that he has been studying physics on his own for pretty much his entire life but only went to college for one year.

What interested me was that he has been working on something that he calls "Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe". While I don´t understand much of it (few does) I was surprised to see that he actually believes in God. Not only that, he claims that it is possible to mathematically prove that God exists and that we have a soul. At first glance I was amazed of this, since I´m a complete atheist (and swedish - none of use are believers). But I can´t help thinking that, since his mind are more powerful than anyone else´s, maybe he has seen further than anyone ever have. This scares me a little bit, b/c obv if he is correct I really don´t want to die for obvious reasons "
KJV

United States

#161 May 11, 2013
Lacez wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>I don't believe Lacez believes in God but I do believe Lacez believes there is no God."

I don't believe in any gods, that's it.
If you show me evidence for one, I'll believe in it.
But we all know you won't do that because every person I've asked evidence from doesn't give any.
Gentlemen:
The starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is:
1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.
If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that
occurs naturally, you’ve toppled my proof. All you need is one.
Perry Marshall
After more than 500 messages on the board, the atheist position is forced to insist, against decades of well-established scientific literature and every convention in the field of biology, that DNA “isn’t really a code.” And yet things like pebbles and snowflakes somehow are.
A number of people on the atheist side have called them on this, but even the moderator continues to insist that I’m foolish for taking all those biology books literally. How very interesting that the atheist position cannot accept one of the most fundamental definitions in modern science, once the implications become clear: If DNA is a code, then we have every reason to believe that it is designed.
KJV

United States

#162 May 11, 2013
Lacez wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>I don't believe Lacez believes in God but I do believe Lacez believes there is no God."

I don't believe in any gods, that's it.
If you show me evidence for one, I'll believe in it.
But we all know you won't do that because every person I've asked evidence from doesn't give any.
Your science and you claim that the universes is 13.7 billion or 14 billion or 15 billion years old give or take. The exact date is not important at all.
The fact is you and your science agree on one very important item. That item is the universe had a start, A beginning.

The word universe means all matter and space and energy, not that is known but ALL matter, space & energy that would include Multi verses.

So we have a date that science and you agree that the Universe (ALL matter, Space & energy) started. Before the start of the universe there was no matter or space or energy because if there was then there would have been the universe and hence no beginning date that science and you claim was about 14 billion years ago ( give or take a few billion ). So this brings us to the same point that you laugh at Theist about. Your universe model sprang fourth from nothingness.

Nothing then poof everything.
But in your case there is nothing or no reason for this magic to have happened.

Christians have a big advantage to your beliefs we know why and how.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#163 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>Why?[/QUOTE]

Look it up for yourself, I'm not responsible for ending your stupidity.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#164 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Your science and you claim that the universes is 13.7 billion or 14 billion or 15 billion years old give or take. The exact date is not important at all.
The fact is you and your science agree on one very important item. That item is the universe had a start, A beginning.
The word universe means all matter and space and energy, not that is known but ALL matter, space & energy that would include Multi verses.
So we have a date that science and you agree that the Universe (ALL matter, Space & energy) started. Before the start of the universe there was no matter or space or energy because if there was then there would have been the universe and hence no beginning date that science and you claim was about 14 billion years ago ( give or take a few billion ). So this brings us to the same point that you laugh at Theist about. Your universe model sprang fourth from nothingness.
Nothing then poof everything.
But in your case there is nothing or no reason for this magic to have happened.
Christians have a big advantage to your beliefs we know why and how.
[/QUOTE]

Spam to deflecf from your support of Pedicide and Pedophilia.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#165 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>I've given much evidence.

One good one is:

http://www.bethlehemstar.net/

For centuries, believers, scoffers and the curious have wondered at the Biblical account of the Star of Bethlehem. The Bible recounts unusual or even impossible astronomical events at Christ’s birth. For many doubters, the account of the Star is easily dismissed as myth. For many believers, it’s a mystery accepted on faith. But what happens if we combine current scriptural accounts, astronomical fact and a desire for truth? The Star of Bethlehem documents the search to understand how the Lord used the stars and planets to reveal His plans for Christ’s birth. Uncover the mystery for yourself.

From Producer Stephen McEveety, The Passion Of The Christ

http://www.christiancinema.com/catalog/produc... [/QUOTE]

You're pointing at a bunch of Christian sites and claiming a star proves your god exists.

First of all, those sites are biased, so if you wish to prove your god, then those aren't going to cut it, ever.
Second, the existence of a massive ball of gas billions of light years away that is probably dead and doesn't actually exist anymore, doesn't prove your god exists.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#166 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>Also.
Here's a list of a few places that have their own version of a world wide flood.

Europe
Greek, Arcadian, Samothrace
Roman
Scandinavian, German
Celtic, Welsh
Lithuanian, Transylvanian Gypsy
Turkey
Near East
Sumerian
Egypt, Babylonian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Hebrew, Islamic
Persian, Zoroastrian
Africa
Cameroon
Masai (East Africa), Komililo Nandi, Kwaya (Lake Victoria)
Southwest Tanzania, Pygmy, Ababua (northern Zaire), Kikuyu (Kenya), Bakongo (west Zaire), Bachokwe?(southern Zaire), Lower Congo, Basonge, Bena-Lulua (Congo River, southeast Zaire)
Yoruba (southwest Nigeria), Efik-Ibibio (Nigeria), Ekoi (Nigeria)
Mandingo (Ivory Coast)
Asia
Vogul
Samoyed (north Siberia)
Yenisey-Ostyak (north central Siberia), Kamchadale (northeast Siberia)
Altaic (central Asia), Tuvinian (Soyot)(north of Mongolia)
Mongolia, Buryat (eastern Siberia)
Sagaiye (eastern Siberia)
Russian
Hindu, Bhil (central India), Kamar (Raipur District, Central India), Assam
Tamil (southern India)
Lepcha (Sikkim), Tibet, Singpho (Assam), Lushai (Assam), Lisu (northwest Yunnan, China), Lolo (southwestern China), Jino (southern Yunnan, China), Karen (Burma), Chingpaw (Upper Burma)
China
Korea
Munda (north-central India), Santal (Bengal), Ho (southwestern Bengal)
Bahnar (Cochin China), Kammu (northern Thailand)
Andaman Islands (Bay of Bengal)
Zhuang (China), Sui (southern Guizhou, China), Shan (Burma)
Tsuwo (Formosa interior), Bunun (Formosa interior), Ami (eastern Taiwan)
Benua-Jakun (Malay Peninsula), Kelantan (Malay Peninsula), Ifugao (Philippines), Kiangan Ifugao, Atá(Philippines), Mandaya (Philippines), Tinguian (Luzon, Philippines)
Batak (Sumatra), Nias (an island west of Sumatra), Engano (another island west of Sumatra), Dusun (British North Borneo), Dyak (Borneo), Ot-Danom (Dutch Borneo), Toradja (central Celebes), Alfoor (between Celebes and New Guinea), Rotti (southwest of Timor), Nage (Flores)
Australia
Arnhem Land (northern Northern Territory)
Maung (Goulburn Islands, Arnhem Land), Gunwinggu (northern Arnhem Land)
Gumaidj (Arnhem Land)
Manger (Arnhem Land)
Fitzroy River area (Western Australia)
Australian, Mount Elliot (coastal Queensland), Western Australia, Andingari (South Australia), Wiranggu (South Australia), Narrinyeri (South Australia), Victoria, Lake Tyres (Victoria), Kurnai (Gippsland, Victoria), southeast Australian
Maori (New Zealand)
Pacific Islands
Kabadi (New Guinea), Valman (northern New Guinea), Mamberao River (Irian Jaya), Samo-Kubo (western Papua New Guinea), Papua New Guinea
Palau Islands (Micronesia), western Carolines
New Hebrides, Lifou (one of the Loyalty Islands), Fiji[/QUOTE]

There was never a worldwide flood.
Also, just listing a bunch of locations doesn't do anything justice, where's your source? What are you trying to prove by saying that some places get flooded (because there were never any worldwide floods).

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#167 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>"A remarkable fossil find has been found in Peru: 346 whales buried in diatomaceous earth. The preservation of the whales is so pristine and complete, the authors of the paper in the Feb. 2004 issue of Geology1 conclude that the whales had to be buried rapidly, in days or weeks. If so, it represents a rate of accumulation of diatoms many times higher than what occurs in modern oceans.
The authors point out some amazing things about this fossil deposit:
Condition: The whale skeletons are “preserved in pristine condition (bones articulated [i.e., still assembled] or at least closely associated), in some cases including preserved baleen.”
Fine details:“The most complete whale (WCBa 20) was fully articulated; the microscopic detail of its baleen was preserved … and there is black, heavy-mineral replacement of the spinal cord and some intervertebral disks. There were no similar minerals in the surrounding sediment. These nonbony tissues were still present when the whale was completely buried.” Other instances of baleen, the delicate straining structure of the whale’s mouth, were also found.
Vertical extent:“The 346 whales within ~1.5 km2 of surveyed surface were not buried as an event, but were distributed uninterrupted through an 80-m-thick sedimentary section.” Since they were found uniformly distributed from bottom to top of the formation, the conditions in which they were buried must have also been uniform.
Unlaminated strata:“The diatomaceous sediment lacks repeating primary laminations, but instead is mostly massive, with irregular laminations and speckles.” In other words, it was not due to a cyclic process, like the annual climate change that produces tree rings.
Lack of bioturbation: Small organisms have not altered the deposit.“There is no evidence for bioturbation by invertebrates in the whale-bearing sediment.” Apparently they didn’t have the chance, it happened so fast.
Intact diatoms:“If most diatoms dissolve before preservation in the sediment, one would find frustules in all stages of dissolution. Diatoms in the Pisco diatomaceous sediment are often broken, but SEMstudy indicated fine preservation, with no significant evidence of dissolution.… In the shallow-water Pisco Formation, the diatoms were probably buried too quickly for much dissolution to occur.” The authors point out that in contemporary diatom deposits, only 2–3% of the frustules (glass shells) usually remain undissolved, up to 24% in special cases in Antarctica."
http://crev.info/2004/02/hundreds_of_whales_b... [/QUOTE]

Again, a biased site and nothing that gives any indication as to the existence of a god.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#168 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>Also this.
"‘We knew it was a great find,’ said paleontologist Leonard Brand about the fossil whales he saw in Peru in 1999, 350 km (200 miles) south of Lima, the capital. Eagerly he organized a team of creationist research scientists. They recently published their findings in the secular journal Geology.1,2,3
Overall, they found 346 whales within a 1.5-km2 (370-acre) area, buried in an 80-m (260-ft) thick layer of sedimentary rock called diatomite. This layer is part of the Pisco Formation, which varies in thickness from 200–1,000 m (650–3,300 ft).

Diatomite is sedimentary rock containing a high percentage of fossil diatoms—small single-celled algae, which commonly live near the ocean surface. The layer of diatomite in Peru has 5 to 10% clay and abundant volcanic ash.

Today, when diatoms die, their silica skeletons accumulate on the ocean floor. One gram (0.035 oz.) of diatomite may contain up to 400 million skeletons.4 Diatomite sediment normally accumulates slowly—only a few centimetres per thousand years.1Even where the rate is higher, such as in some shallow-water areas, accumulation is still slow. For example, in the fjords of British Columbia, diatoms and clay accumulate at 2.5–5.0 mm (0.1–0.2 inches) per year.2

Also today, when a whale carcass sinks to the bottom of the ocean, many kinds of scavengers quickly attack and colonize it. And in their quest for food, some scavengers churn up the adjacent sediments.5

However, in Peru, the fossilized whales and diatoms were well preserved and the whale skeletons were mostly intact. There was no evidence of normal decay, such as wormholes, barnacle encrustations or general degradation. Neither was there any sign that organisms had churned up the adjacent sediment."

http://creation.mo bi/dead-whales-telling-tales[/ QUOTE]

Creation site, biased and proven wrong.
So you would believe that we were made from sand and a man's rib?

I forgot to mention in my last post, that as a creation site, it is already disproven.

Could you come up with any actual valid and credible sources?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#169 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>There is this also:

http://www.grandcanyontreks.org/geology2.htm

"Inevitably, some of these visitors will turn to a park ranger and ask: "How did the Grand Canyon get formed? Why did this happen here and nowhere else?"

The honest answer is that nobody knows. One hundred and thirty-one years after John Wesley Powell first mapped the Colorado River by riding its 161 rapids in heavy wooden boats, no one can prove how the canyon was formed.

But it is not for lack of trying.

Geologists are puzzle freaks who love nothing more than collecting fragmentary clues -- clumps of gravel, fossilized shells and pollens, the dates that muddy sediments were deposited in dried-up lakes or whole mountain ranges were lifted -- and then trying desperately to figure out how the modern topography before their eyes was produced.

More.....

The modern Colorado appears to be a young river that flows out of the Rockies and hits a huge plateau, called the Kaibab Upwarp, which is 50 million to 70 million years old. Instead of being shunted away from this barrier, the river runs right through it. Moreover, when sediments from the river are examined closely, it is clear that the western end of the canyon -- where it flattens out and begins its final run to the Gulf of California -- is many millions of years younger than the eastern part of the river.

To many experts, this difference means that the Grand Canyon could have been cobbled together from ancient river basins that were created during different geologic eras. But if so, when and how were those ancient rivers formed and where did they go?[/QUOTE]

Again, where is your evidence of a god, and specifically the existence of your god and not others?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#170 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>More evidence:

A fossilized human skull was found in coal that was sold in Germany (mid-1800s). A jawbone of a child was found in coal in Tuscany (1958). Two giant human molars were found in Montana (1926). A human leg was found by a West Virginia coal miner. It had changed into coal.�pp. 34-35.

A woman, in Illinois, reportedly found a gold chain in a chunk of coal which broke open (1891). A small steel cube was found in a block of coal in Austria (1885). An iron pot was found in coal in Oklahoma (1912). A woman found a child's spoon in coal (1937).�p. 35.

In 1944 Newton Anderson claimed to have found this bell inside a lump of coal that was mined near his house in West Virginia. When Newton dropped the lump it broke, revealing a bell encased inside.

What is a brass bell with an iron clapper doing in coal that is supposed to be hundreds of

millions of years old? According to Norm Scharbough's book Ammunition (which includes a compilation of many such "coal anecdotes") the bell was extensively analyzed at the University of Oklahoma and it was found to contain an unusual mixture of metals, different from any modern usage. Photo and text from Genesis Park.

Man-made objects in rock.

An iron nail was found in a Cretaceous block from the Mesozoic era (mid-1800s). A gold thread was found in stone in England (1844). An iron nail was found in quartz in California (1851). A silver vessel was found in solid rock in Massachusetts (1851).

The mold of a metal screw was found in a chunk of feldspar (1851). An intricately carved and inlaid metal bowl was found in solid rock (1852). An iron nail was found in rock in a Peruvian mine by Spanish conquistadores (1572).�pp. 35-36.

http://s8int.com/page8.html [/QUOTE]

Again, where's the proof of your god?

I'm not even going to bother with your other comments, you obviously don't know how to provide evidence.
Of course, it's understandable that you don't know what evidence is.

You know what though? The Earth is about 4.54 billion years old and the Sun is placed at about 4.57 billion years old.
Already your bible is proven wrong, for it claims a young Earth of 6'000 years old. 6'000 is WAY OFF from 4'540'000'000.

Can you tell the difference in numbers?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#171 May 11, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
See, I'm always surprised with new stupidities that escape these people's minds.
To be "born with the knowledge of a god" is utterly ridiculous.
Indeed it is.

You could easily make the same claim about a cat-- and I have heard that, one godbot claimed that "birds singing" were "praising god"....

.... yeah, there is no explaining these people's deliberate blindness.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172 May 11, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a belief that there is no God , so it's a faith.
If that were true, then you'd be correct.

However?

I have no belief like that-- in fact?

If you COULD manage to show me PROOF of your god?

I would accept your proof as real, and your god as real too.

But you cannot DO that..

.... sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#173 May 11, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
6billion religion people and 900million atheists. Atheism is ridiculous.
And?

Thor has a Mighty Hammer-- he uses it to sling lightning.

Your pansy-asss Jew got himself nailed to a stick-- and died.

I betcha Thor's hammer was involved...

... THOR FOR THE WIN!

:D

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174 May 11, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a lack of belief in God, it's a belief that there is no God.( Get it)
The two are not the same thing.

But you have brain damage so severe, you are literally mentally retarded.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175 May 11, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
You BELIEVE there is no God, it's a faith, you must have severe brain damage if you don't understand the word believe or Belief.
Thor! For the WIN!

Your dead-jew-on-a-stick?

Loser.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177 May 11, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you're engaged to the love of you're life, God has blessed you, yet you still show you're ignorance to him.
And YOU?

You have a gay relationship with an imaginary dead jew.

Is that necrophilia? Or homoerotic fantasy?

Both?

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#181 May 11, 2013
KJV wrote:
What has that got to do with your support of the murder and rape of children?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
The star proves out scripture.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. Thor is proven every time there is lightning in the sky.

Have you given yourself to Thor?

No?

Good. Thor despises pansies who do that sort of thing.

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