Questions for former Christians

“Proverbs 12:16”

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#83 Aug 22, 2011
scaritual wrote:
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I lost friends that I had known me for years when I actually finally said, "I'm atheist". The "friends" usually responded something like "well, we know you aren't religious, but you believe in a god, right?...some sort of a god or higher power..."
I don't rue the loss.
No, I do, since I counted them as a friend, and suddenly they saw me as some sort of thing to shield themselves, kids and such from. And I was still the same old me I'd ever been.
On the flip side, many theist friends I did retain, and there is no issue at all.
You wanna know who your friends are? Tell them you are atheist.
That isn't an issue any longer, I let it be known up front.
Saves disappointment.
Yeah, my first Atheist friend kinda took me by surprise. He told me he didn't see any reason to believe in a god. I was like "well...that sucks...wanna watch some MST3K?"

“Queen of everything”

Since: Oct 08

Paradise Island

#84 Aug 22, 2011
scaritual wrote:
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I lost friends that I had known me for years when I actually finally said, "I'm atheist". The "friends" usually responded something like "well, we know you aren't religious, but you believe in a god, right?...some sort of a god or higher power..."
I don't rue the loss.
No, I do, since I counted them as a friend, and suddenly they saw me as some sort of thing to shield themselves, kids and such from. And I was still the same old me I'd ever been.
On the flip side, many theist friends I did retain, and there is no issue at all.
You wanna know who your friends are? Tell them you are atheist.
That isn't an issue any longer, I let it be known up front.
Saves disappointment.
It's been an interesting journey since becoming openly atheist. Most people at work consider me as their "special/retarded" friend. They consider me as an outsider. They discount me as a true friend. I have online friends that "love" me. It is really difficult to be truthful. To be truthful means to leave yourself exposed to criticism. It's as if atheists are alien beings on planet Earth.

“Queen of everything”

Since: Oct 08

Paradise Island

#85 Aug 22, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
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::raises hand::
ummm, Christian in the room....
Well, you are in a atheist forum. You have to expect skeptisism and criticism.

“Proverbs 12:16”

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#86 Aug 22, 2011
pictqueen wrote:
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Well, you are in a atheist forum. You have to expect skeptisism and criticism.
Yeah, but don't call the pen red if the pen is blue...

THE PEN IS BLUUUUUUUE!

“Queen of everything”

Since: Oct 08

Paradise Island

#87 Aug 22, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
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Yeah, but don't call the pen red if the pen is blue...
THE PEN IS BLUUUUUUUE!
That truly depends on what shift you are charting on.....haha

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#88 Aug 23, 2011
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>Anatomy and physiology
I shoulda known that.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#89 Aug 23, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
<quoted text>When I said confusion I mean what you were taught in whatever theology you adhered to before becoming an Atheist...at some point you noticed something that didn't mesh with what you were taught. I'm sure there must have been some level of confusion before you came to a conclusion on which conflicting idea was right.
In my case, it was not at some point. It was a gradual realization.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#90 Aug 23, 2011
pictqueen wrote:
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It's been an interesting journey since becoming openly atheist. Most people at work consider me as their "special/retarded" friend. They consider me as an outsider. They discount me as a true friend. I have online friends that "love" me. It is really difficult to be truthful. To be truthful means to leave yourself exposed to criticism. It's as if atheists are alien beings on planet Earth.
Agreed.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#91 Aug 23, 2011
Aerobatty wrote:
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In my case, it was not at some point. It was a gradual realization.
Similar to, "plateaus of reasoning". Thats what it was like for me, anyway.

After I'd finally understood I was atheist and the reasons why. It continued somewhat. More like a verification process. The next few years were very interesting as I realized just how saturated the society is with supernatural imagery and conditioning.

The entire culture is steeped in "woo woo".
redneck

Glendale, OR

#92 Aug 23, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
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Or you could live in Egypt and convert from Islam to Christianity; that's not just hard...it's a capital offense. Then again that might cover going from Islam to anything. The only way to be a Christian there is if you move there as a Christian. Otherwise your Islam or dead.
Egypt is quite secular and there is a large xtian community.

Since: Jul 11

San Diego, CA

#93 Aug 23, 2011
pictqueen wrote:
<quoted text>I am a female, caucasian atheist. Being an atheist brings about all kids of stereotypes. People think that I am some kind of child hating, murderous woman. They fail to truly get to know me, as a person, or gain insight on what I am really like. People assume a lot about me, without ever seeking to know the REAL me.
That sucks.

Since: Dec 10

Broomall, PA

#94 Aug 23, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
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Yeah, but don't call the pen red if the pen is blue...
THE PEN IS BLUUUUUUUE!
Why didn't you answer my question?
I would really like to know the answer.
Amused

Billerica, MA

#95 Aug 23, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
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Yeah, but don't call the pen red if the pen is blue...
THE PEN IS BLUUUUUUUE!
Perhaps it is blue, but you have to understand that if the vast majority of pens you encounter over a long period of time are red, one begins every encounter with pens with the expectation that it is red until there is proof to the contrary. I would invite you to browse some of the other threads in this forum to get a flavor of how other christians behave here. Granted, the sub-set of christians who seek out atheist forums is not necessarily representative of christians in general, but suffice it to say they do not protray your faith in anything like a positive light. You are, in fact, a christian who has sought out an atheist forum to post in. I'm keeping an open mind about you and your intentions, as are a number of other atheist posters who have responded civilly to your questions, but this is not a tabula rasa. Some folks have had enough negative encounters to create a presumption of guilt in their minds.
nina

Canada

#96 Aug 23, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
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....You see before I realized what the truth was I was confused when I was approached with something that contradicted what I thought I knew.
right and that people don't beleive, contradicts what you do beleive - so you are struggling to understand. good place to be.

everyone is atheist - it's all a matter of degree.

you are christian, thus an atheist to all other faiths that are possible.

I just take it one more religion than you do and am atheist to all of them.
nina

Canada

#97 Aug 23, 2011
madscot wrote:
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Imagine being a black gay atheist...just sayin.
I expect that a one armed single mother black lesbian will be elected president of the US as long as she's born again

before a white heterosexual married man with children who's an atheist will be.
nina

Canada

#98 Aug 23, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
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Or you could live in Egypt and convert from Islam to Christianity; that's not just hard...it's a capital offense. Then again that might cover going from Islam to anything. The only way to be a Christian there is if you move there as a Christian. Otherwise your Islam or dead.
which is not a far cry from Pres Bush the First's comment that athiests cannot be patriotic or even citizens
nina

Canada

#99 Aug 23, 2011
since this thread is so reasonable - I have to ask a question

I was re-watching Julia Sweeney's Letting Go of God (she did a bit on the TED talks site)

and she refers to the Age of Majority - and that this is the age of 7 when you're expected to know right from wrong and god's starting your Permanent Record.

it occurs to me that the Age of Majority is the time when you pass from being a minority into the majority - or at least the age at which you tired of not being in it and join it.....

“Proverbs 12:16”

Since: Jun 11

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#100 Aug 23, 2011
Amused wrote:
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Perhaps it is blue, but you have to understand that if the vast majority of pens you encounter over a long period of time are red, one begins every encounter with pens with the expectation that it is red until there is proof to the contrary. I would invite you to browse some of the other threads in this forum to get a flavor of how other christians behave here. Granted, the sub-set of christians who seek out atheist forums is not necessarily representative of christians in general, but suffice it to say they do not protray your faith in anything like a positive light. You are, in fact, a christian who has sought out an atheist forum to post in. I'm keeping an open mind about you and your intentions, as are a number of other atheist posters who have responded civilly to your questions, but this is not a tabula rasa. Some folks have had enough negative encounters to create a presumption of guilt in their minds.
That was a "Liar Liar" reference....Jim Carrey. Really funny movie.

“Proverbs 12:16”

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#101 Aug 23, 2011
The serpent was right wrote:
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Why didn't you answer my question?
I would really like to know the answer.
Sorry, haven't had much time to think on it...classes are keeping me up to my ears in studying and papers.

Hmmm....why do I believe? Short answer is; it feels right. I've seen a lot of stuff in my career and more than a few patients who are deemed miracles. I mean a college kid chugs some antifreeze...when we were called he was already exhibiting signs of acidosis and all those other fun classic signs of ethylene glycol poisoning.

Funny thing is he survived and he's fine today (they probably had to give him a gallon of bicarb though...the container was about half empty.

That and every time I considered (I wasn't always a Christian...went from Atheist, to Wicca, then Christian) the possible existence of God it just seemed right. Much like the Atheists here who used to be theists I chose what I believed was right. I've also found that actually living by the book (loving people, not lying, not cursing, etc) it's really evened my temper out (I used to have a pretty bad temper) Overall I've never been happier in my life.
redneck

Glendale, OR

#102 Aug 23, 2011
EMS Servant wrote:
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Sorry, haven't had much time to think on it...classes are keeping me up to my ears in studying and papers.
Hmmm....why do I believe? Short answer is; it feels right. I've seen a lot of stuff in my career and more than a few patients who are deemed miracles. I mean a college kid chugs some antifreeze...when we were called he was already exhibiting signs of acidosis and all those other fun classic signs of ethylene glycol poisoning.
Funny thing is he survived and he's fine today (they probably had to give him a gallon of bicarb though...the container was about half empty.
That and every time I considered (I wasn't always a Christian...went from Atheist, to Wicca, then Christian) the possible existence of God it just seemed right. Much like the Atheists here who used to be theists I chose what I believed was right. I've also found that actually living by the book (loving people, not lying, not cursing, etc) it's really evened my temper out (I used to have a pretty bad temper) Overall I've never been happier in my life.
If you need that cruch to 'feel right', then go ahead. It's not logical. When I had the epiphany, I was pissed. No afterlife and I had made life changing decisions that counted on one. It doesn't have to feel right to be right.

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