Arkansas Society of Freethinkers Denies "War on Christmas" Charge

Dec 5, 2012 | Posted by: Hedonist | Full story: arkansasmatters.com

The Arkansas Society of Freethinkers today rejected the claim that it is making war on Christmas.

"Those who stand up for the rights of children to be free from coercion aren't making war either on religion or Christmas," said ASF spokesperson LeeWood Thomas. "Rather, this is a case of a church forming an alliance with local government to violate religious freedom. So we in the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers feel compelled to take a stand on behalf of the parents under the U.S. Constitution."

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Dec 6, 2012
 
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Before you know it the athiest/freethinkers will try to take God out churches.... idiots!
Here's just another example of that xtian hatred that so prevalent in that religion and consequentally displayed by xtians on these threads.

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Yet...you accuse me of what you do. I am not a hater, I think any child that would want to enjoy a Christmas program should get to. How sad.
Projection Much!

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That's precisely my point. It's in regards to an elementary school in Arkansas. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with where you live in Atlanta, GA.
You don't have a dog in the fight. All you're here for is to whine like a little bitch.
I think I just realized part of your problem here (and maybe a few others)---

I am seeing this thread in the Atheism Forum within Topix. I have not gone looking for this particular thread in Arkansas or anywhere else.

The Topix roboblogger will often cross-posts articles in a number of Forums.

The top of my screen (right before the Thread title) it says - "Posted in the Atheism Forum".

HOWEVER, at the bottom of the page, there's an area with a short list of some of the threads within your forum, and right underneath that it says something like - "Related Topix Forums: Entertainment, Television, Arts, Theater, Country, Little Rock, AR". These are the other Forums that tied into this particular thread.

So from my perspective, you have been posting in the Atheism Forum uninvited, and that would seem rude. From your perspective, you're seeing me barging into your Forum. Truth is, we're both equally involved in this particular thread.
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Proove it! We'll wait.
You prove your position. We'll wait!
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Here's just another example of that xtian hatred that so prevalent in that religion and consequentally displayed by xtians on these threads.
What in the world is the funny word you keep using, it's not in the english language, what language are you using?....

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Dec 6, 2012
 
The war on Christmas is finished. Time for Bill O'Reilly to stop fighting

Political correctness never did go mad. In the end, it just faded away

"What's genuinely fascinating, though, is what's happened to the War on the War on Christmas. In the UK, it's all but vanished. In the US, meanwhile, the fight has been left almost exclusively to Bill O'Reilly of Fox News, who battles on, like a holdout Japanese World War Two soldier in the Pacific. And the pressure of solitary warriorhood seems to be getting to him."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/...

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Dec 6, 2012
 
Beware the Dangers of Christmas

Women Must Protect their Children from the Dangers in the Christmas Holidays

"Is there anything dangerous about Christmas? Perhaps. Most Christians and even most non-Christians regard Christmas as being at least innocuous if not a positive good. This is not a universally shared opinion, though. There are people who are critical of Christmas, arguing that it has more negative aspects than positive ones -- or even that there's nothing especially positive about it at all.

For some Christians, the Christmas holidays represent remnants of ancient paganism which should never have been incorporated into Christianity in the first place. Their presence are a sign of the incomplete work that still faces true Christians today. People who observe Christmas holidays aren't following Christian holidays but are, instead, simply helping the dark forces of paganism.

For many non-Christians, the Christmas holidays represent the dominance of Christianity in America. They may be appropriate for Christians, but they are wholly inappropriate for non-Christians. To observe them would be to give into the cultural forces behind Christianity and the tendency for American Christianity to assimilate everything it encounters. Resisting this is necessary for the preservation of ones own cultural and religious traditions.

Many irreligious atheists have a perspective similar to that of non-Christians. Although they aren't likely concerned about preserving their own cultural or religious traditions, they don't want to become assimilated by Christmas and Christianity themselves. Although Christmas is less exclusively Christian than it used to be, they still perceive it as predominantly Christian in nature and, since they aren't Christian themselves, they object to being expected to observe it in any fashion simply because it's popular.

These are all completely legitimate objections to Christmas and the insistence that everyone observe Christmas together. There is no question but that Christmas has developed a tremendous amount of cultural momentum in America. Avoiding it can be difficult at best -- I'm not sure how anyone can be completely successful. I can certainly understand why they would try, though, and their insights into the possible dangers that exist in Christmas should be taken seriously by everyone else."

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No Godless Conspiracy Against Christmas: Atheists Are Not Undermining Christmas

"Every year we hear more and more about the so-called Christmas Wars. According to its promoters and alleged "defenders" of Christmas, the godless liberals and atheists are trying to undermine wholesome Christmas traditions as part of their agenda of undermining Christianity. For these people, this is less about Christmas than it is about cultural dominance: they think they should have the authority to determine how Christmas is celebrated and what status it has in American society as part of their belief that, as Christians, they should determine the course and nature of American society generally...."

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Actually, based on their actions, the local school apparently agreed that this was inappropriate.
No, the Church backed out and decided to offer the play during non school hours so as not to be the center of contention. It's sad when law abiding citizens have to alter their plans because of a handful of whining little bitches.
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It's the civic duty of every citizen to bring to light and prevent any illegal formation of a Theocracy, or from it springing up anywhere that the U.S Constitution is the law of the land. It's too bad you shirk your responsibility, but that doesn't mean everyone will.
There is no violation of law here, constitutional or otherwise. What a group of people in Arkansas choose to do is none of your damn business.

Like I said before, you trolls are always looking for something you can whine about, whether or not if actually affects you.

If you ain't got a dog in this fight, just STFU.

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There is no violation of law here, constitutional or otherwise. What a group of people in Arkansas choose to do is none of your damn business.
Like I said before, you trolls are always looking for something you can whine about, whether or not if actually affects you.
If you ain't got a dog in this fight, just STFU.
Not only is your era of religious privilege coming to a rapid end, you do not get the right to control the dialog by unconstitutionally demanding anyone to "just STFU". Ain't gonna work for ya!

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The War on The War on Christmas - O'Reilly Freaks Out

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Faux News exposed:

Fox News Fake War on Christmas 2012?

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No, the Church backed out and decided to offer the play during non school hours so as not to be the center of contention. It's sad when law abiding citizens have to alter their plans because of a handful of whining little bitches.
You seem to like calling people names. Is this a Christian thing or are you just that immature?

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Fox News Contributor: Your War on Christmas is 'Silly'

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I think I just realized part of your problem here (and maybe a few others)---
I am seeing this thread in the Atheism Forum within Topix. I have not gone looking for this particular thread in Arkansas or anywhere else.
The Topix roboblogger will often cross-posts articles in a number of Forums.
The top of my screen (right before the Thread title) it says - "Posted in the Atheism Forum".
HOWEVER, at the bottom of the page, there's an area with a short list of some of the threads within your forum, and right underneath that it says something like - "Related Topix Forums: Entertainment, Television, Arts, Theater, Country, Little Rock, AR". These are the other Forums that tied into this particular thread.
So from my perspective, you have been posting in the Atheism Forum uninvited, and that would seem rude. From your perspective, you're seeing me barging into your Forum. Truth is, we're both equally involved in this particular thread.
I also thought we were just on the Atheism Forum. That would explain the unfamiliar godbots posting here. I just thought they were new sock puppets from the same old ones that we all have come to know and love. LOL

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Dec 6, 2012
 
Nope. I know messianic Jews and as that page made by messianic Jews I factually proved they do not celebrate Christmas. In fact that is insulting to them.
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You can find any article to support any pet position you have..so big whoop!.....isn't the internet great?

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And they don't like that do they? Ignorant Christholes.
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Not only is your era of religious privilege coming to a rapid end, you do not get the right to control the dialog by unconstitutionally demanding anyone to "just STFU". Ain't gonna work for ya!
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I am seeing this thread in the Atheism Forum within Topix.
That doesn't change the fact that we're talking about an incident in Arkansas. You live in Georgia. Therefore, this in no way affects you and is none of your damn business.

Atlanta is a big town. I'm sure you can find something there to bitch about. Leave those of us who live in Arkansas to work out our own issues.

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An issues you have half wit.
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That doesn't change the fact that we're talking about an incident in Arkansas. You live in Georgia. Therefore, this in no way affects you and is none of your damn business.
Atlanta is a big town. I'm sure you can find something there to bitch about. Leave those of us who live in Arkansas to work out our own issues.

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