Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11177 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11570 Feb 10, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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If humankind had not survived without modern science's conveniences, you wouldn't be here tooting science's horn. But survive they did, and that makes you a second rate mouthpiece for your favorite author of tall tales.
Survive, sure, the cold survives in your body .... until you kill it. But without science you'd be working fields all day, all day, as in you'd have no free time at all. You'd also die between 20 and 30 years after birth, about enough time to have two and a half children. You'd be extremely lucky to have all your teeth without science, most people didn't have any teeth after 30 if they lived that long. Science also makes sure that pricking your finger on a mineral deposit isn't a death sentence. It also provides you with healthy food all year long, so you don't starve in the winter. You also have the internet, thanks to science, lots and lots of science brought this to you.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11571 Feb 10, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Poor persecuted atheists. So misunderstood and vilified! Everybody picks on you. Waaaaaa! Surveys show that the majority of Americans don't trust atheists. You're going to have to work hard to improve your public image if you want to run for office. Gathering on forums like this to vent your spleens only serves to showcase the reason for your unpopularity. See richarddawkins.net . He had to shut down his forum because of too many vulgar, bigoted atheist flamers. You don't need inquisitors to vindicate atheism. If given enough rope, you will hang yourselves! LMAO!
Pure projection in the last part.
Lincoln

United States

#11572 Feb 10, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Survive, sure, the cold survives in your body .... until you kill it. But without science you'd be working fields all day, all day, as in you'd have no free time at all. You'd also die between 20 and 30 years after birth, about enough time to have two and a half children. You'd be extremely lucky to have all your teeth without science, most people didn't have any teeth after 30 if they lived that long. Science also makes sure that pricking your finger on a mineral deposit isn't a death sentence. It also provides you with healthy food all year long, so you don't starve in the winter. You also have the internet, thanks to science, lots and lots of science brought this to you.
Nothing to do with atheism
but informative.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#11573 Feb 10, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Pure projection in the last part.
You say that as if the word "projection" is somehow less than desirable, an hallucination or something. Your life is itself a projection. The product of your own beliefs and expectations, which forms your experience. There isn't one area in your life where this doesn't apply.
Lincoln

United States

#11574 Feb 10, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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You say that as if the word "projection" is somehow less than desirable, an hallucination or something. Your life is itself a projection. The product of your own beliefs and expectations, which forms your experience. There isn't one area in your life where this doesn't apply.
Nonsense!
Do you read your posts

or only type?
....just saying

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#11575 Feb 10, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Nonsense!
Do you read your posts
or only type?
....just saying
Do you regard your beliefs and expectations as illusory?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#11576 Feb 10, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Do you regard your beliefs and expectations as illusory?
When will you prove your god? Today? Tomorrow? Hurry up liar.
Lincoln

United States

#11577 Feb 10, 2013
BBSting wrote:
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Do you regard your beliefs and expectations as illusory?
Stalin

Himler

Hitler

Mao

Fidel Castro

Lenin

Trotsky

Now wonder you are regarded as a joke

atheist murders in power
Thinking

Cullompton, UK

#11578 Feb 10, 2013
Bollocks.
Lincoln wrote:
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Stalin
Himler
Hitler
Mao
Fidel Castro
Lenin
Trotsky
Now wonder you are regarded as a joke
atheist murders in power

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#11579 Feb 10, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Stalin
Himler
Hitler
Mao
Fidel Castro
Lenin
Trotsky
Now wonder you are regarded as a joke
atheist murders in power
You didn't answer my question. Do you regard your beliefs and expectations to be illusory?
rider

Marquette, MI

#11580 Feb 10, 2013
C Street Scandal, the Media, the Future of the Family: An Interview with Jeff Sharlet
By Bill Berkowitz



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Bill Berkowitz
Read all of Bill Berkowitz’s articles here and sign up for his RSS feed here.*** Bill Berkowitz is a freelance writer and longtime observer of the conservative movement.

Before the Tea Party Express brought tens of thousands to protest in the nation’s capital, and before town hall meetings about health care devolved into shout downs, there was the story of the boys of C Street.

What at first seemed like a series of public sex scandals turned out to have a connective thread. The main protagonists (Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina, Senator John Ensign of Nevada, and former Arkansas Congressman Chip Pickering) were all one-time residents of C Street and members of the Family, otherwise known as the Fellowship. As the summer unfurled, the “three amigos” gave mainstream media outlets plenty to talk about, and this highly secretive and powerful right-wing group got a lot of exposure. And then, as is the wont of the media, the story of C Street disappeared from the headlines.

In this exclusive Religion Dispatches interview, Jeff Sharlet, author of 2008’s The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, talks about The Family and its summer of scandal, the organization’s tarnished present and future possibilities, and why the mainstream media had such a difficult time dealing with the group’s unusual political/religious beliefs.

http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/ath ...

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#11581 Feb 10, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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When will you prove your god? Today? Tomorrow? Hurry up liar.
When you can prove your so-called lack of belief is not disbelief.
insidesecrets

Santa Fe, NM

#11582 Feb 10, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Survive, sure, the cold survives in your body .... until you kill it. But without science you'd be working fields all day, all day, as in you'd have no free time at all.
Free time to do what? Gorge yourself on denatured foods and while away endless hours playing video games?
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>You'd also die between 20 and 30 years after birth, about enough time to have two and a half children.
Since you believe this life is the only one you've got, you're bound to fixate on longevity. A short life lived in health is far better than a long life lived in ill health.
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>You'd be extremely lucky to have all your teeth without science, most people didn't have any teeth after 30 if they lived that long.
You need to expand your repertoire of knowledge to include more than what you see on TV. Many people don't have teeth in our society because they can't afford the exorbitant cost of dentistry. 1 in 3 Americans wear dentures or partial plates due to gum disease and caries brought about by the sugar laden American diet.
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Science also makes sure that pricking your finger on a mineral deposit isn't a death sentence. It also provides you with healthy food all year long, so you don't starve in the winter. You also have the internet, thanks to science, lots and lots of science brought this to you.
As shocking as this may sound, people actually live and thrive in today's world without computers, plasma TV's, smartphones and microwave ovens. You are confusing need with want. There is a difference. People don't NEED a smartphone, they WANT them. Unfortunately technology, ever so willing to provide the world with an endless array of gadgets, has erased the line between what makes life possible and what makes life comfortable.

Natural food, shelter and clean water is what makes life possible. If more people spent time outside working in the sun, and eating healthy food from their own gardens, they wouldn't be running to doctors and gyms to counteract the unhealthy aspects of today's technologically "comfortable" lifestyle.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11583 Feb 10, 2013
Not to mention the bigot naturally leaves out that his forum much like topix was flooded with angry Christian bigots like himself.
KittenKoder wrote:
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Pure projection in the last part.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11584 Feb 10, 2013
Hey I took a dump, do you want me to send you the god-stuff or is it ok to flush it?

:)
insidesecrets wrote:
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Free time to do what? Gorge yourself on denatured foods and while away endless hours playing video games?
<quoted text>
Since you believe this life is the only one you've got, you're bound to fixate on longevity. A short life lived in health is far better than a long life lived in ill health.
<quoted text>
You need to expand your repertoire of knowledge to include more than what you see on TV. Many people don't have teeth in our society because they can't afford the exorbitant cost of dentistry. 1 in 3 Americans wear dentures or partial plates due to gum disease and caries brought about by the sugar laden American diet.
<quoted text>
As shocking as this may sound, people actually live and thrive in today's world without computers, plasma TV's, smartphones and microwave ovens. You are confusing need with want. There is a difference. People don't NEED a smartphone, they WANT them. Unfortunately technology, ever so willing to provide the world with an endless array of gadgets, has erased the line between what makes life possible and what makes life comfortable.
Natural food, shelter and clean water is what makes life possible. If more people spent time outside working in the sun, and eating healthy food from their own gardens, they wouldn't be running to doctors and gyms to counteract the unhealthy aspects of today's technologically "comfortable" lifestyle.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#11585 Feb 10, 2013
The Holocaust was caused by Christian fundamentalism:

History is currently being distorted by the millions of Christians who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a Christian deed. Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today’s Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on those with out Jesus. However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers.
Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler’s birthday. The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition.
Lincoln wrote:
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Stalin
Himler
Hitler
Mao
Fidel Castro
Lenin
Trotsky
Now wonder you are regarded as a joke
atheist murders in power

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#11586 Feb 11, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Hey I took a dump, do you want me to send you the god-stuff or is it ok to flush it?
:)
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Eat it like you do your snot, dingleberry.
Thinking

Cullompton, UK

#11587 Feb 11, 2013
So whose snot do you eat?
BBSting wrote:
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Eat it like you do your snot, dingleberry.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#11588 Feb 11, 2013
No myself being an atheist I could never eat the god-stuff although it seems you are a god-stuff water and want other to do as you do. Shall I mail you some god-stuff next time I take a Christ?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
BBSting wrote:
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Eat it like you do your snot, dingleberry.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#11589 Feb 11, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
No myself being an atheist I could never eat the god-stuff although it seems you are a god-stuff water and want other to do as you do. Shall I mail you some god-stuff next time I take a Christ?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
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If there is no god, there can be no god-stuff. Go ahead, eat it.

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