Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11180 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#11507 Feb 6, 2013
GiveMeLiberty said - "Hey how much god-stuff do we urinate and defecate out? How do we test ourselves for god-stuff?"

To which insidious replied -
insidesecrets wrote:
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I could explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. You are not capable of thinking beyond your own personal prejudices. You're better off beating the same old dead horse. It will give you something to do.
Which really means that he has no answer and is just making stuff up.

But to answer your question about how much stuff is in him -- he's full of it!

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#11508 Feb 6, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
Scientists become fanatics when they ignore the rights of others,
This is certainly not limited to scientists. The history of religion is full of examples where the rights of a minority are ignored. In fact, religious leaders typically jump at the chance to literally kill those who disagree with them. We see such in Iran today. It isn't that long ago that terrorism was a Christian thing in Ireland. And in the US today there are many that say we should ignore the rights of women and gays simply because their religion says so.

Scientists, in general, do NOT set aside the ethical questions as you suggest. Some reach different conclusions, while others allow the science and ethics to be distorted by money. But the vast majority are concerned about the ethical implications of their research.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#11509 Feb 6, 2013
He certainly is. But hey we have a Christhole arguing against science and saying we are made of god-stuff. The term god-stuff is an instant classic on all time theist stupidity posted on here.

Next time you are at the doctor ask him to check your god-stuff levels.:))
Hedonist wrote:
GiveMeLiberty said - "Hey how much god-stuff do we urinate and defecate out? How do we test ourselves for god-stuff?"
To which insidious replied -
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Which really means that he has no answer and is just making stuff up.
But to answer your question about how much stuff is in him -- he's full of it!

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#11510 Feb 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
He certainly is. But hey we have a Christhole arguing against science and saying we are made of god-stuff. The term god-stuff is an instant classic on all time theist stupidity posted on here.
Next time you are at the doctor ask him to check your god-stuff levels.:))
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Wouldn’t that entail having a colonoscopy?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11511 Feb 6, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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The only difference between science's data and religion's data is that it lacks morality. The male dominated scientific community uses its power the same way the old Testament god used his power, to win friends and influence enemies. Like Jehovah, the scientist feels he has the prerogative to use power in any way he chooses. He believes his search for answers justifies any means, or sacrifices, not only on his part but the parts of others. Scientists become fanatics when they ignore the rights of others, and when they defile life in a misguided attempt to understand it.
Religion is chauvinistic, science is not.

As for "morality," religion makes up their morals just like everyone else. The only difference is that you justify horrible actions with your religion, which you cannot legitimately do with science.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#11512 Feb 6, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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I could explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you....
There's the crux of it. With scientific data, theories, assertions, basically everything, everyone understands it if they have enough study in the particular field, and everyone understands it the same. Your religious nonsense is always "interpreted" differently, always.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#11513 Feb 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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There's the crux of it. With scientific data, theories, assertions, basically everything, everyone understands it if they have enough study in the particular field, and everyone understands it the same. Your religious nonsense is always "interpreted" differently, always.
That is because it is not acceptable as it is written, even for them.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#11514 Feb 7, 2013
I just wonder how many other believers think we are made of god-stuff as well. They all need an enema!
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn’t that entail having a colonoscopy?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#11515 Feb 7, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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The only difference between science's data and religion's data is that it lacks morality. The male dominated scientific community uses its power the same way the old Testament god used his power, to win friends and influence enemies. Like Jehovah, the scientist feels he has the prerogative to use power in any way he chooses. He believes his search for answers justifies any means, or sacrifices, not only on his part but the parts of others. Scientists become fanatics when they ignore the rights of others, and when they defile life in a misguided attempt to understand it.
You have no knowledge or experience of science. Because you are brainwashed by your cult, you have an opinion that has been drilled into you by your cult of liars.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#11516 Feb 7, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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The only difference between science's data and religion's data is that it lacks morality. The male dominated scientific community uses its power the same way the old Testament god used his power, to win friends and influence enemies. Like Jehovah, the scientist feels he has the prerogative to use power in any way he chooses. He believes his search for answers justifies any means, or sacrifices, not only on his part but the parts of others. Scientists become fanatics when they ignore the rights of others, and when they defile life in a misguided attempt to understand it.
Science never set out to answer morality questions. It set out to keep you alive through medicine, to feed you efficiently and cheaply through technology, and it lets you communicate your half arsed opinions about science to all of us here and now today.

You're allowed to think about morality because you're not thinking of what animal to kill next in the forest to feed your cave family with a life space of 30 years. And that is thanks to science, not religion.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#11517 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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You have no knowledge or experience of science. Because you are brainwashed by your cult, you have an opinion that has been drilled into you by your cult of liars.
Yadda. Yadda. Yadda. It doesn't take knowledge or intelligence to accept science's propaganda. It takes gullibility. LOL!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#11518 Feb 7, 2013
It also takes deleting posts that make atheist's look like the fools they are.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#11519 Feb 7, 2013
Try that again using English grammar rules.

You wear your illiteracy like a badge of honour.
BBSting wrote:
It also takes deleting posts that make atheist's look like the fools they are.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#11520 Feb 7, 2013
BBSting wrote:
<quoted text>Yadda. Yadda. Yadda. It doesn't take knowledge or intelligence to accept science's propaganda. It takes gullibility. LOL!
Pssssst!

(I've got a couple of loaves and fishes that will feed you and your family for the rest of your lives. Cheap.)
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#11521 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Science never set out to answer morality questions. It set out to keep you alive through medicine, to feed you efficiently and cheaply through technology, and it lets you communicate your half arsed opinions about science to all of us here and now today.
You're allowed to think about morality because you're not thinking of what animal to kill next in the forest to feed your cave family with a life space of 30 years. And that is thanks to science, not religion.
If humankind had not survived without modern science's conveniences, you wouldn't be here tooting science's horn. But survive they did, and that makes you a second rate mouthpiece for your favorite author of tall tales.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#11522 Feb 7, 2013
Yet you believe humans are made up of god-stuff?
insidesecrets wrote:
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If humankind had not survived without modern science's conveniences, you wouldn't be here tooting science's horn. But survive they did, and that makes you a second rate mouthpiece for your favorite author of tall tales.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#11523 Feb 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yet you believe humans are made up of god-stuff?
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The hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning. Although exceedingly repetitious, you haven't gotten much mileage out of that one have you?(laugh)

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#11524 Feb 7, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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If humankind had not survived without modern science's conveniences, you wouldn't be here tooting science's horn.
But it, did and it continues to do so & so I will.
insidesecrets wrote:
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But survive they did, and that makes you a second rate mouthpiece for your favorite author of tall tales.
We're all alive thanks to science. Its because you're brainwwashed, you are unable to accept this fact, much like the fact of evolution.

Perhaps science frightens you.
insidesecrets

Albuquerque, NM

#11525 Feb 7, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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But it, did and it continues to do so & so I will.
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We're all alive thanks to science. Its because you're brainwwashed, you are unable to accept this fact, much like the fact of evolution.
Perhaps science frightens you.
What concerns me is science's lack of ethics, its amorality.

Thou shalt not kill even in the pursuit of ideals. That's clear enough. In practical terms, this means science cannot kill animals in experiments or destroy ecosytems for the common good, i.e. to protect and preserve the commonly assumed "higher" order of human life.

Man has killed for the sake of his ideals at least as much as he has killed for greed, or lust or the pursuit of power. How can scientists who engage in the same unethical practices while accusing Christians of being immoral, expect thinking people to take them seriously? In particular, when science has the power to destroy an entire planet.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#11526 Feb 7, 2013
insidesecrets wrote:
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What concerns me is science's lack of ethics, its amorality.
Thou shalt not kill even in the pursuit of ideals. That's clear enough. In practical terms, this means science cannot kill animals in experiments or destroy ecosytems for the common good, i.e. to protect and preserve the commonly assumed "higher" order of human life.
Is it immoral to kill bacteria to cure a disease? Is it immoral to drain a swamp to prevent malaria? Both of those are natural conclusions from your position, but I think most people would strongly disagree.

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