Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11177 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#11210 Jan 13, 2013
KJV wrote:
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You don't know what I believe. Funny your little word game. Adding words twisting words anything but the truth that would be against your religion.
Yes I do, it's whatever translation of the Bible you can select that's most suitable for you.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#11211 Jan 13, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Another translation:
New Living Translation (©2007)
Isaiah 43:10
"But you are my witnesses, O Israel!" says the LORD. "You are my servant. You have been chosen to know me, believe in me, and understand that I alone am God. There is no other God--there never has been, and there never will be.
Perhaps you should change your name from KJV to NLT?

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#11212 Jan 13, 2013
KJV wrote:
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So you will now accept anything with the science stamp on it.
Rather pitiful!
Based on the many successes that science has in explaining our reality, I certainly do!

Compare that with the abysmal failure of your religion.

Birds with breasts, insects with four legs, cockatrices, giants, dragons, talking snakes and donkeys, unicorns, fiery serpents, etc.

That's just the zoology of the Bible.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#11213 Jan 13, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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An understanding of history requires a certain amount of intelligence.
And let's be honest...that's not really KJV's strong suit...
Good point!

Especially when his version of history doesn't go any further back than 6000 years.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#11214 Jan 13, 2013
KJV wrote:
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"If evolution is true, then the entire narrative of the Bible has to be revised and reinterpreted. The evolutionary account is not only incompatible with any historical affirmation of Genesis, but it is also incompatible with the claim that all humanity is descended from Adam and the claim that in Adam all humanity fell into sin and guilt. The Bible’s account of the Fall and its consequences is utterly incompatible with evolutionary theory. The third chapter of Genesis is as problematic for evolutionary theory as the first two.
The naturalistic evolutionists are now pressing their case in moral as well as intellectual terms. Increasingly, they are arguing that a refusal to accept evolution represents a thought crime of sorts. They are using all the tools and arguments at their disposal to discredit any denial of evolution and to marginalize voices who question the dogma of Darwinism. They are working hard to establish unquestioned belief in evolution as the only right-minded and publicly acceptable position. They have already succeeded among the intellectual elites. Their main project now is the projection of this victory throughout popular culture.
Among the theistic evolutionists, the issues are becoming clearer almost every day that passes. Proponents of theistic evolution are now engaged in the public rejection of biblical inerrancy – with some calling the affirmation of the Bible’s inerrancy as an intellectual disaster and “intellectual cul-de-sac.” Others now openly assert that we must forfeit belief in an historical Adam, an historical Fall, and a universal Flood.
Thus, the vise of evolutionary theory is now revealing the fault lines of the current debate. There can be no question but that the authority of the Bible and the truthfulness of the Gospel are now clearly at stake. The New Testament clearly establishes the Gospel of Jesus Christ upon the foundation of the Bible’s account of creation. If there was no historical Adam and no historical Fall, the Gospel is no longer understood in biblical terms.
This is the new shape of the debate over evolution. We now face the undeniable truth that the most basic and fundamental questions of biblical authority and gospel integrity are at stake. Are you ready for this debate?"
http://m.christianpost.com/news/creation-vs-e...
What scientific alternative to evolution can you offer to us for consideration?

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#11217 Jan 14, 2013
Astrosurf wrote:
Science tells us with great superiority that we humans, close relatives of the chimpanzee, are the very pinnacle of creation, not only the most intelligent creatures on earth but the whole universe.
We live on a tiny speck in the corner of an infinitely old universe surrounded by an infinite number of galaxies, stars, and planets, and our only reason for being there is to die. Such presumptive baloney - such conceit! I can't believe educated people can swallow this mythical crap and call themselves intelligent let alone think they have a reason to criticize Christians for their beliefs!
Name one scientist who claims, humans are the very pinnacle of creationm
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#11218 Jan 14, 2013
Respek![sic]
Khatru wrote:
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Perhaps you should change your name from KJV to NLT?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#11219 Jan 14, 2013
English evolves. I chose not to capitalise god. One day, that will be the norm.
KJV wrote:
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Well given the fact that God was capitalized that would affirm that it was the God of the Bible he was talking about.
"Do You Capitalize the Word "God"?
One of the most common questions people ask about religious words is whether to capitalize the word god. The name of any specific deity is capitalized just like any other name, so when God is used to refer to the one God,(in other words, in any monotheistic religion) it is capitalized. "
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/do-you-c...
"Indeed, it would be rather juvenile to misspell God simply in order to insult theists. If such an atheist had so little respect for another person, why even waste the time writing to them in the first place, much less deliberately trying to hurt them at the same time? While that may actually be the case with some atheists who write the word 'god' with a lowercase 'g,' "
http://atheism.about.com/od/doesgodexist/a/ca...
Can't even handle the atheist web page on proper grammar?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11220 Jan 14, 2013
KJV "Indeed, it would be rather juvenile to misspell God simply in order to insult theists."

What about zeus, mithras, buddha or allah. Is this a grevious offense :) maybe I should say Zeus, Mithras, Buddha or Allah, so not to hurt anyone's feelings. I think as long as we are consistent in the way we talk about all imaginary beings, religions, superstitions, then no one should be offended.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#11221 Jan 14, 2013
They'll get offended anyway!

No one should have the right not to be offended.
Adam wrote:
KJV "Indeed, it would be rather juvenile to misspell God simply in order to insult theists."
What about zeus, mithras, buddha or allah. Is this a grevious offense :) maybe I should say Zeus, Mithras, Buddha or Allah, so not to hurt anyone's feelings. I think as long as we are consistent in the way we talk about all imaginary beings, religions, superstitions, then no one should be offended.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11222 Jan 14, 2013
derek4 wrote:
Science points more toward God than toward atheism.
Atheism doesn't depend on science at all. Nevertheless, science implies atheism several ways.

[1] First, science, like secular humanism, lends support to the principle of rational skepticism, which is the mother of atheism, science and humanism. Those three are each the result of the application of rational skepticism to matters of the supernatural, the natural, and human life respectively. Since they are all fruit of the same tree, the stunning successes of science, such as the polio vaccine and space travel, and of secular humanism, such as the US Constitution and individual political freedoms, suggest that atheism is just as valid.

[2] Second, science shows us that every creation myth is a fabrication, meaning that extraordinary religious proclamations that can be checked have uniformly been found to be wrong. Once we understand where religious thought comes from, and what its standards of scholarship are - making things up and saying that a god told you - we understand where the concept of a god comes from: man's imagination.

[3] Third, science has shown that we don't need a god. There was never was a reason to even consider the possibility of a god except to explain the otherwise inexplicable. And science does that better. With each of its pronouncement, every god shrinks into a smaller gap. Religion is dying wherever science is thriving.

[4] Fourth, scientists have been studying our reality at every scale from the Higgs boson (CERN) to the cosmological scale (WMAP) since the invention of the microscope and telescope, and have never found a scintilla of evidence for a designer. Nothing. Scientists have shown repeatedly that prayer fails.

That is four different ways that science affirms atheism. That's plenty.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11223 Jan 14, 2013
derek4 wrote:
Arguments by atheists using science as evidence against the existence of God is erroneous and without support.
Atheists need to learn how to understand science.
Christianity's antiscientism is ignored everywhere except by other Christians. Your church has no standing in the great scientific debate. Its agenda driven indifference to truth and its determination to defend itself from impending irrelevance in the West whatever the cost are well known.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#11224 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
No one should have the right not to be offended.
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agreed
Lincoln

United States

#11225 Jan 14, 2013
Secularism declining in America
but must be stronger in the UK?
Lincoln

United States

#11226 Jan 14, 2013
When Obama took office in 2009, he repeated after Justice John Roberts: "I, Barack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear that I will execute the Office of President of the United States faithfully and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God."

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#11227 Jan 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Absolutely! We have many old laws that we no longer use.
All English males over the age of 14 are to carry out 2 or so hours longbow practice a week supervised by the local clergy.
In some states it is legal to have intercourse with livestock. For those that are interested..(wink wink)
AL, FL, KY, MA, NH, NJ, NM, NV, OH, TX, VT, WV, and WY have no direct prohibitions on the sexual assault of an animal.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#11228 Jan 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Make sense or shut up
Talking to yourself again?

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#11229 Jan 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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You flatter me.
While I fully understand your inferiority complex, there's really no need to place me on such a pedestal.
It's lonely for you atop the pedestal of ignorance you made for yourself.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#11230 Jan 14, 2013
No, Khatru was asking you to make sense or shut up.
derek4 wrote:
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Talking to yourself again?

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#11231 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
English evolves. I chose not to capitalise god. One day, that will be the norm.
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When you choose to remain in ignorance, like Khatru, you diminish yourself. Ask Khatru if there is room on her pedestal for you to sit with her (him).

The Christian God is traditionally capitalized.

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