Don't dictate beliefs

Sep 5, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Star Press

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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polymath257 wrote:
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I, for one, will reply in this forum. You can ignore the posts if you really want to, but the discussion can happen here even if you don't participate.
What an amazing expression of insecurity when you feel the need to announce your plans.

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Just Think wrote:
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Actually, an atheist could live in a hut and never, ever even care about science.
You lose.
Lose what? We're not playing the lottery here, lol.

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polymath257 wrote:
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That article didn't even rise to the level of bad science. It was simply wrong in most particulars (which we know you wouldn't understand).
Remember to share your dubious expertise with the web page publishers, lol.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
I have said before we atheists should be able to use this forum as a tax wrote off for all the teaching and council we give to the theists.
Surely this counts as volunteer work?
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Tax advantages are reserved for churches where values are taught.

You have nothing to offer.

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KJV wrote:
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Posted earlier by derek4
Study: Atheists Have Lowest 'Retention Rate' Compared to Religious Groups
Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.
There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
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Gray also noted that, "of those raised as atheists, 30% are now affiliated with a Protestant denomination, 10% are Catholic, 2% are Jewish, 1% are Mormon, and 1% are Pagan."
Jehovah's Witness, congregationalist and holiness churches had the next lowest retention rates at 37 percent, 37 percent and 32 percent, respectively. Thirty-eight percent of those who grew up with no particular religious faith or belief system remained that way.
Hindus had the highest retention rate at 84 percent, followed by Jews (76 percent), Muslims (76 percent), Greek Orthodox (73 percent), Mormons (70 percent) and Catholics (68 percent).
Baptists had the highest retention rate of the Protestant Christian categories at 60 percent, followed by Lutheran (59 percent) and Pentecostal (50 percent).
http://www.christianpost.com/news/study-athei...
[Right; NO thinking people don't want to be atheists.]
From: Deseret News / Salt Lake City, UT
July, 2012
“Atheists abandon their beliefs more often than people in other religious groups, study finds”
A new study has found that people raised in an atheist home abandon those beliefs as adults more often than people raised with other religious belief systems, putting atheism at a 30 percent retention rate. Conclusions and interpretations of the study are that atheists are more often "made" as adults rather than "raised." The highest retention rates are in the Hindu faith, which holds onto about 84 percent of adherents.
Those who grow up in an atheist household are least likely to maintain their beliefs about religion as adults, according to a study by Georgetown University's Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA).
Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.
There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765589392/...
[Who would want to be an atheist? LOL]
Thank you for re-posting that. Atheist parents bear a lot of grief since most of their children leave their godless religion.

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Scientists express “bewilderment” about how many living molecular machines in our cells work, let alone how they “supposedly” evolved. They look designed. That's because they were.

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhm...

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The concern is increasing that most scientific research findings that get published are false.

With all the fraud and retractions we see, that concern is justified.

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/...

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#10996
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It's time to take another look at fraud scientist Hwang Woo-suk, from South Korea.

Wow, what a name!

Dr. Woo-suk faked data in stem cell research.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/03...

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#10997
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Here's a video from Fox News on junk science and scientists involved in political corruption:

www.video.foxbusiness.com/v/4159451/top-five-...

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Scientists express “bewilderment” about how many living molecular machines in our cells work, let alone how they “supposedly” evolved. They look designed. That's because they were.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhm...
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You do realize that irreducible complexity was already debunked, and has been many times over, right?

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It's time to take another look at fraud scientist Hwang Woo-suk, from South Korea.
Wow, what a name!
Dr. Woo-suk faked data in stem cell research.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/03...
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If Hwang Woo-suk discredits all of science, then Ted Haggard discredits all of Christianity.

Check and mate.
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-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>you don't have thoughts, you're a creationist.
Septic tank runneth over.
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Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain "God of the Gaps". I hear he gets smaller every day.
Please explain spontaneous life.

REALITY LOL.
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<quoted text>Thank you for re-posting that. Atheist parents bear a lot of grief since most of their children leave their godless religion.
It needed to be reestablished, what the kiddy do when they wake up from the atheist myths like spontaneous life.
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KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize that irreducible complexity was already debunked, and has been many times over, right?
Merriam-Webstar

debunk:
What anyone would do if KK was in the bunk.

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derek4 wrote:
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You aren't capbale of taking notice of much, are you, lol?
Maybe Kitten will forgive you for the way you treated her. You better apologize to her.
Beautiful flowers in your avatar. They're fake, like you, but at least they is right purty, lol.
True, I take no notice of that which does not exist.

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Scientists express “bewilderment” about how many living molecular machines in our cells work, let alone how they “supposedly” evolved. They look designed. That's because they were.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhm...
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From your link

"Scientific understanding requires both facts and theories that can explain those facts in a coherent manner. Evolution, in this context, is both a fact and a theory. It is an incontrovertible fact that organisms have changed, or evolved, during the history of life on Earth. And biologists have identified and investigated mechanisms that can explain the major patterns of change."

Nice to know you support this.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Nicely said and awesome quote. I can foresee me using that one :)
Thanks.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
Reality is the collection of real entities, those being defined as the objects and processes which can be experienced, or which potentially can be experienced. Such objects are real.
polymath257 wrote:
My own definition runs something like this: "reality consists of whatever is common to all maximally predictive observational theories".
That's an interesting approach. Here's another:

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.”- Phillip K. Dick

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#11008
Jan 12, 2013
 
derek4 wrote:
Yes, many notable people will be suffering along with you. Enjoy!
Oooh! So scary! So very, very scary! Dim his shaking his Scary Chicken on the stick with jingly bells at us. We're supposed to swoon in fear.

"Arise, Chicken! Arise"

@ Dim - hey, Dim. The Scary Chicken is useless here. You've already gleaned all of the low-lying fruit that can be captured with such a vapid threat. If you want to recruit more Christians with the Chicken, you'd be better off taking it to day cares and pre-schools.

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