Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11178 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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#10993 Jan 11, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Posted earlier by derek4
Study: Atheists Have Lowest 'Retention Rate' Compared to Religious Groups
Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.
There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
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Gray also noted that, "of those raised as atheists, 30% are now affiliated with a Protestant denomination, 10% are Catholic, 2% are Jewish, 1% are Mormon, and 1% are Pagan."
Jehovah's Witness, congregationalist and holiness churches had the next lowest retention rates at 37 percent, 37 percent and 32 percent, respectively. Thirty-eight percent of those who grew up with no particular religious faith or belief system remained that way.
Hindus had the highest retention rate at 84 percent, followed by Jews (76 percent), Muslims (76 percent), Greek Orthodox (73 percent), Mormons (70 percent) and Catholics (68 percent).
Baptists had the highest retention rate of the Protestant Christian categories at 60 percent, followed by Lutheran (59 percent) and Pentecostal (50 percent).
http://www.christianpost.com/news/study-athei...
[Right; NO thinking people don't want to be atheists.]
From: Deseret News / Salt Lake City, UT
July, 2012
“Atheists abandon their beliefs more often than people in other religious groups, study finds”
A new study has found that people raised in an atheist home abandon those beliefs as adults more often than people raised with other religious belief systems, putting atheism at a 30 percent retention rate. Conclusions and interpretations of the study are that atheists are more often "made" as adults rather than "raised." The highest retention rates are in the Hindu faith, which holds onto about 84 percent of adherents.
Those who grow up in an atheist household are least likely to maintain their beliefs about religion as adults, according to a study by Georgetown University's Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA).
Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.
There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765589392/...
[Who would want to be an atheist? LOL]
Thank you for re-posting that. Atheist parents bear a lot of grief since most of their children leave their godless religion.

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#10994 Jan 11, 2013
Scientists express “bewilderment” about how many living molecular machines in our cells work, let alone how they “supposedly” evolved. They look designed. That's because they were.

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhm...

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#10995 Jan 11, 2013
The concern is increasing that most scientific research findings that get published are false.

With all the fraud and retractions we see, that concern is justified.

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/...

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#10996 Jan 11, 2013
It's time to take another look at fraud scientist Hwang Woo-suk, from South Korea.

Wow, what a name!

Dr. Woo-suk faked data in stem cell research.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/03...

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#10997 Jan 11, 2013
Here's a video from Fox News on junk science and scientists involved in political corruption:

www.video.foxbusiness.com/v/4159451/top-five-...

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10998 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
Scientists express “bewilderment” about how many living molecular machines in our cells work, let alone how they “supposedly” evolved. They look designed. That's because they were.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhm...
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You do realize that irreducible complexity was already debunked, and has been many times over, right?

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#10999 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
It's time to take another look at fraud scientist Hwang Woo-suk, from South Korea.
Wow, what a name!
Dr. Woo-suk faked data in stem cell research.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/03...
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If Hwang Woo-suk discredits all of science, then Ted Haggard discredits all of Christianity.

Check and mate.
KJV

United States

#11000 Jan 11, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>you don't have thoughts, you're a creationist.
Septic tank runneth over.
KJV

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#11001 Jan 11, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain "God of the Gaps". I hear he gets smaller every day.
Please explain spontaneous life.

REALITY LOL.
KJV

United States

#11002 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for re-posting that. Atheist parents bear a lot of grief since most of their children leave their godless religion.
It needed to be reestablished, what the kiddy do when they wake up from the atheist myths like spontaneous life.
KJV

United States

#11003 Jan 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize that irreducible complexity was already debunked, and has been many times over, right?
Merriam-Webstar

debunk:
What anyone would do if KK was in the bunk.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#11004 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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You aren't capbale of taking notice of much, are you, lol?
Maybe Kitten will forgive you for the way you treated her. You better apologize to her.
Beautiful flowers in your avatar. They're fake, like you, but at least they is right purty, lol.
True, I take no notice of that which does not exist.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#11005 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
Scientists express “bewilderment” about how many living molecular machines in our cells work, let alone how they “supposedly” evolved. They look designed. That's because they were.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/nhm...
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From your link

"Scientific understanding requires both facts and theories that can explain those facts in a coherent manner. Evolution, in this context, is both a fact and a theory. It is an incontrovertible fact that organisms have changed, or evolved, during the history of life on Earth. And biologists have identified and investigated mechanisms that can explain the major patterns of change."

Nice to know you support this.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11006 Jan 12, 2013
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Givemeliberty wrote:
Nicely said and awesome quote. I can foresee me using that one :)
Thanks.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11007 Jan 12, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Reality is the collection of real entities, those being defined as the objects and processes which can be experienced, or which potentially can be experienced. Such objects are real.
polymath257 wrote:
My own definition runs something like this: "reality consists of whatever is common to all maximally predictive observational theories".
That's an interesting approach. Here's another:

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.”- Phillip K. Dick

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11008 Jan 12, 2013
derek4 wrote:
Yes, many notable people will be suffering along with you. Enjoy!
Oooh! So scary! So very, very scary! Dim his shaking his Scary Chicken on the stick with jingly bells at us. We're supposed to swoon in fear.

"Arise, Chicken! Arise"

@ Dim - hey, Dim. The Scary Chicken is useless here. You've already gleaned all of the low-lying fruit that can be captured with such a vapid threat. If you want to recruit more Christians with the Chicken, you'd be better off taking it to day cares and pre-schools.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11009 Jan 12, 2013
derek4 wrote:
You have enough love for all of us. Thank you for sharing it, lol.
You've never demonstrated a single scintilla of humanity in this thread, Dim. You have nothing positive to say about anything, including your religion. You have never once been kind, happy, supportive, or constructive. You are 100% negative, hostile and bitter.

Your ministry is counterproductive, and your witness is repulsive. You fortify the convictions of others not just that you are incorrect, but that your religion generates a undesirable neighbors.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#11010 Jan 12, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Oooh! So scary! So very, very scary! Dim his shaking his Scary Chicken on the stick with jingly bells at us. We're supposed to swoon in fear.
"Arise, Chicken! Arise"
@ Dim - hey, Dim. The Scary Chicken is useless here. You've already gleaned all of the low-lying fruit that can be captured with such a vapid threat. If you want to recruit more Christians with the Chicken, you'd be better off taking it to day cares and pre-schools.
Here's some voodoo chicken I could get into :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11011 Jan 12, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
For you, everything else is subjected to a statistical pseudo-analysis and rated unlikely - except the unlikeliest thing possible: an infinite creature. That gets a pass. What makes you believe that a god could exist uncreated?
KJV wrote:
We do not know what is outside of our universe other then there is a heaven and a hell. That there is a God and Angels. I will not go down any road that would be pure speculation. No need for that.
I'm afraid that that ship long since has sailed.

It also dodges the question. How could an infinite god exist undesigned if you claim that simpler things like life allegedly cannot?

You don't need to answer. Your refusal is your answer.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#11012 Jan 12, 2013
KJV wrote:
Please go ahead an list the passages you wish to discuss.
"His breasts are full of milk." - Job 21:24

WTF?

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