Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11176 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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#10959 Jan 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
7+ posts in a row gets you another "Cuntard of the Day" award.
Way to go, cuntard!
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Just a reminder to everyone, when you have concerns about the content of any link I've posted, you need to express those to the web page publishers, since I have no interest in your amateur and misguided opinions. Thank you for your cooperation.

And this one other note: Act nice, even if we all know you're really not. Posts with inappropriate language may be reported to the moderators as abuse. Some already have been reported.

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#10960 Jan 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Based on the definitions you provided, no it is not a religion. Twist the facts all you want, but the information you get in your email from the creationist website is already debunked millions of times over.
Kitten, I have a compliment to you for a change. Your deep and abiding faith in the atheist religion is an outstanding example of commitment to all of us. Thank you.

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#10961 Jan 11, 2013
The Sidney Hillman Foundation reports on the surging number of mistakes in science, the shadow over scientific trust, retractions, and government funds wasted on bogus science.

http://www.hillmanfoundation.org/blog/mistake...

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Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10963 Jan 11, 2013
Bollocks.
derek4 wrote:
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Unsupported conjecture = Darwinism / Evolutionism
Just one example previously posted:
This government link explains that the evolution of the eye and photoreceptor cell types remains a mystery and ongoing matter of debate.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14756332
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#10964 Jan 11, 2013
A report from the VIII International Scientific Conference explores the mistakes of modern science.

In the spirit of their concern about honesty, atheists should want to rid the planet of bad science.

http://www.ikz.ru/~smulski/smul1/English1/Fou...

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#10965 Jan 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
How you bleat.
I always give respect where it's due. Conversely, I'll swear at barefaced liars like you whenever I see fit.
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#10966 Jan 11, 2013
The included link gives examples of the many ways scientists have been wrong, and still are wrong.

http://science.discovery.com/top-ten/2009/sci...

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In order for atheists to rely on what science tells us, they need to insure they are placing their faith in bonafide science. Recognizing true and genuine science is becoming extremely complex.

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#10967 Jan 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Bollocks.
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Your constant replies to me and you futile meaningless rebuttals plus your resort to juvenile language all point to your deep frustrations and inablitiy to make valid points. Thanks, lol.

“Think&Care”

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#10968 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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Just a reminder to everyone, when you have concerns about the content of any link I've posted, you need to express those to the web page publishers, since I have no interest in your amateur and misguided opinions. Thank you for your cooperation.
I, for one, will reply in this forum. You can ignore the posts if you really want to, but the discussion can happen here even if you don't participate.

“Think&Care”

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#10969 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
A report from the VIII International Scientific Conference explores the mistakes of modern science.
In the spirit of their concern about honesty, atheists should want to rid the planet of bad science.
http://www.ikz.ru/~smulski/smul1/English1/Fou...
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That article didn't even rise to the level of bad science. It was simply wrong in most particulars (which we know you wouldn't understand).
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10970 Jan 11, 2013
I can't fix your stupid.(With thanks to Ron White)
derek4 wrote:
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Your constant replies to me and you futile meaningless rebuttals plus your resort to juvenile language all point to your deep frustrations and inablitiy to make valid points. Thanks, lol.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10971 Jan 11, 2013
Which one. All your posts are an abuse.
derek4 wrote:
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“Think&Care”

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#10972 Jan 11, 2013
How bad reporting affects the public view of science:

http://www.ted.com/talks/molly_crockett_bewar...

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#10973 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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Atheism is a scientific religion requiring great faith.
Actually, an atheist could live in a hut and never, ever even care about science.

You lose.

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#10974 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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Yes, atheism is a religion.
http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion
Did you really just use a Christian Fundamentalist website to "prove" atheism is a religion?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#10976 Jan 11, 2013
derek4 wrote:
Recognizing true and genuine science is becoming extremely complex.
Its not too bad. Just avoid creationist websites :)
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10978 Jan 11, 2013
Therefore a magic man dunnit?[sic]
KJV wrote:
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"The strongest scientific argument in favor of string theory is that it appears to contain a theory of gravity embedded within it and thus may provide a solution to the thorny problem of reconciling Einstein's general relativity with quantum mechanics and the rest of particle physics. There are, however, two fundamental problems, which are hard to get around.
First, string theory predicts that the world has 10 space-time dimensions, in serious disagreement with all the evidence of one's senses. Matching string theory with reality requires that one postulate six unobserved spatial dimensions of very small size wrapped up in one way or another. All the predictions of the theory depend on how you do this, but there are an infinite number of possible choices, and no one has any idea how to determine which is correct.
The second concern is that even the part of string theory that is understood is internally inconsistent. This aspect of the theory relies on a series expansion, an infinite number of terms that one is supposed to sum together to get a result. Whereas each of the terms in the series is probably finite, their sum is almost certainly infinite. String theorists actually consider this inconsistency to be a virtue, because otherwise they would have an infinite number of consistent theories of gravity on their hands (one for each way of wrapping up six dimensions), with no principle for choosing among them.
The "M" Word
These two problems have been around since the earliest work on string theory along with the hope that they would somehow cancel each other out. Perhaps some larger theory exists to which string theory is just an approximate solution obtained by series expansion, and this larger theory will explain what's going on with the six dimensions we can't see. The latest version of this vision goes under the name of "M-theory," where the "M" is said variously to stand for "Membrane," "Matrix," "Mother," "Meta," "Magic" or "Mystery"ýalthough "Mythical" may be more appropriate, given that nearly eight years of work on this idea have yet to lead to even a good conjecture about what M-theory might be."
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/issue...

“Think&Care”

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#10979 Jan 11, 2013
KJV wrote:
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"The strongest scientific argument in favor of string theory is that it appears to contain a theory of gravity embedded within it and thus may provide a solution to the thorny problem of reconciling Einstein's general relativity with quantum mechanics and the rest of particle physics. There are, however, two fundamental problems, which are hard to get around.
First, string theory predicts that the world has 10 space-time dimensions, in serious disagreement with all the evidence of one's senses. Matching string theory with reality requires that one postulate six unobserved spatial dimensions of very small size wrapped up in one way or another. All the predictions of the theory depend on how you do this, but there are an infinite number of possible choices, and no one has any idea how to determine which is correct.
The second concern is that even the part of string theory that is understood is internally inconsistent. This aspect of the theory relies on a series expansion, an infinite number of terms that one is supposed to sum together to get a result. Whereas each of the terms in the series is probably finite, their sum is almost certainly infinite. String theorists actually consider this inconsistency to be a virtue, because otherwise they would have an infinite number of consistent theories of gravity on their hands (one for each way of wrapping up six dimensions), with no principle for choosing among them.
The "M" Word
These two problems have been around since the earliest work on string theory along with the hope that they would somehow cancel each other out. Perhaps some larger theory exists to which string theory is just an approximate solution obtained by series expansion, and this larger theory will explain what's going on with the six dimensions we can't see. The latest version of this vision goes under the name of "M-theory," where the "M" is said variously to stand for "Membrane," "Matrix," "Mother," "Meta," "Magic" or "Mystery"ýalthough "Mythical" may be more appropriate, given that nearly eight years of work on this idea have yet to lead to even a good conjecture about what M-theory might be."
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/issue...
Yes, string theory is going out of favor for exactly these reasons. Once again, the essence of a scientific theory is the ability to predict new observations. String theory has been given a lot of rope, but has produced very little except a few frayed results.

Are you thinking there are no alternative theories out there?

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#10981 Jan 11, 2013
I have said before we atheists should be able to use this forum as a tax wrote off for all the teaching and council we give to the theists.

Surely this counts as volunteer work?
Adam wrote:
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I know I used to myself defend imaginary sky people when I was on the kool aid. But you would think instead they would show a little gratitude for helping them out.
KJV

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#10982 Jan 11, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, string theory is going out of favor for exactly these reasons. Once again, the essence of a scientific theory is the ability to predict new observations. String theory has been given a lot of rope, but has produced very little except a few frayed results.

Are you thinking there are no alternative theories out there?
No there is a theory out there that will replace Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. Not uniting them but replacing them both. That's my thoughts.

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