Don't dictate beliefs

Sep 5, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Star Press

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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“There is no Truth in Faith”

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DJ Hewlet wrote:
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What do you have if not figments of human imagination, or myths? It takes as much faith to believe that something comes from nothing (big bang) and nonliving matter produces life (evolution) as it does to believe in God.
The big bang theory does not include the concept of "something comes from nothing" and it might well be that life permeates the universe and grows where ever conditions permit. No creator required.

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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I think that's just poorly articulated. You can believe without showing it, or perform the ritual without believing.
There is a distinction that can be made between religious culture and religious belief.
I certainly view religious belief as being a thing apart from religious culture.

Here in the UK we're getting less religious by the year but there's no denying the influence of Christianity on our culture.

Mind you, we've also been influenced by forces opposed to Christianity which really got started with the 18th-century Enlightenment and French Revolution and going all the way to Marxism-Leninism and the liberalism of the European Court of Human Rights.

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EmpAtheist wrote:
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Im responding to you but hope the one you responded to reads this...
I left Christianity with the help of conversation like this too. I had many questions after the death of one of my good friends who was an atheist. I asked family and friends and the answers were very dodgy. I asked a couple preachers and they just repeated the same things I've heard for years that were completely irrelevant. Then I went to YouTube and found tons of Christians giving answers for what i wanted... they were always response videos to atheists... so to better understand what they were talking about i watched their videos as well..... long story short.... after several months i found myself on the other side of that fence.
So don't think that what you say doesn't make a difference... sometimes you plant a seed or just add a little water to make it grow. Nobody is going to change their mind from one sentence in a post.
Another honest post from the heart.

Thanks for sharing this with us.

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Hedonist wrote:
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There actually is a whole Topix Forum on science (" http://www.topix.com/science" ;) but he knows he'd be totally out of his league there.
His post aren't really about science per se, he's just showing off how much he hates things he so clearly doesn't understand.
I guess it's fortunate for Dim that his god just so happens to hate all the same things that he hates.

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Yes. He seems to think we are attacking his religion by showing the flaws that need fixing. Must kind of stick in his craw.
Atheism is not a religion, it doesn't matter how many times you try to lie, it's a lack of belief, nothing more and nothing less.

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May god strike me the f*ck down right is second.

Still alive,, theists are full of sh*t.
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<quoted text>One is based on independently verified evidence and predictive modeling capability.

The other is based on fireside stories of some ancient goat herders trying to explain where lightning comes from.
No, there is no verified evidence of spontaneous life. It's a myth.

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Still alive, god isn't real proven once again.

“I Am No One Else”

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KJV wrote:
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No, there is no verified evidence of spontaneous life. It's a myth.
At least you're finally learning something. but still not enough to make it. Considering that your bible is proving less than adequate at explaining things, much less, incapable of providing anything beneficial to us, we'll keep looking for some real answer.

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Atheist is a Religion.
Religion
Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.
Hence - Atheism = Religion
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From: The Columbus Dispatch:
February 4, 2011
Church, without God
“Stan Bradley likes Bible stories, admires Martin Luther and uses expressions such as 'heavens, no.'
The Lithopolis man is president of a local congregation and rarely misses a Sunday service. Occasionally, he goes to his wife's church instead.
For these and other reasons, Bradley considers himself religious.”
He is also an atheist.
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“Like Bradley, some atheists participate in organized religion for its social and psychological benefits.”
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“Churches are great places to find friends, support and youth education, so nonbelievers and believers alike join congregations to fill those needs, he said.
He has spoken to elderly and sick people who can no longer go to church and they say they most miss the feeling of community.
Recent research from Harvard University and the University of Wisconsin backs him up. It found that religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people, not because of belief but because of the friendships found at church.”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/faith...
“religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people”[I have said this all along, and my posts are still on the board to confirm it. Now you hear it straight from the atheist, lol.]
Belief in No Deities or that there are no Deities is clearly belief in nothing.

Your definition of Religion/Faith required belief in something.

Therefore, Atheism can not be a religion by your own definition.
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Adam wrote:
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I think the best case made for theism is the appearance of design. However all this *proves* is that things looked designed.
It does not explain whether it is God/s who did the creating or multiple gods, or an infallible god, or an imperfect god, a good god or a bad one.
I think a common error by theists if they say nature looks designed, so this means that Christianity, and all that entails must be true. Which of course is faulty logic. And in addition of course evolution explains the development of complex creatures from simple ones by natural causes. Your thoughts?
The fact that it looks designed implies intelligence.
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Another empty threat.
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I wish he had but you'll just have to wait.
For the proof.
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But coincidences are only coincidences because they are.
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The fact that it looks designed implies intelligence.

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sarafina wrote:
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The fact that it looks designed implies intelligence.
Crystal formations look "designed" I've seen them form, no designer was evident.

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I did not ever say it was "established "
I was only questioning why it was not considered "established " after over 40 years at the forefront of science.
Because it makes few testable predictions. The main thing in its favor is that it manages to combine quantum mechanics and general relativity.
String theory has failed a few test and as the article title says "String Theory is on life support"
When I posted that article about String theory it was in reference to the failed micro black hole experiments.
The micro black holes were not a central aspect of string theory. Our ability to produce them in accelerators depends strongly on the size of any extra dimensions. And the size of any extra dimensions is not well-constrained in string theory.

Now, if we don't find some super-symmetric partners soon, string theory may have some deep problems.

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sarafina wrote:
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The fact that it looks designed implies intelligence.
No, it does not.

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Just Think wrote:
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Have you considered starting a thread about science ...
No.

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The fact that it looks designed implies intelligence.
Your post doesn't look designed at all.

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Khatru wrote:
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Actually, it's common courtesy to acknowledge the originator of a post.
Particularly when it's one that makes you look really stupid.
You're a fine one to advise on common courtesy, lol.

I have no obligation to answer any post, nor am I inclined to be courteous to the discourteous.

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DJ Hewlet wrote:
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What do you have if not figments of human imagination, or myths? It takes as much faith to believe that something comes from nothing (big bang) and nonliving matter produces life (evolution) as it does to believe in God.
Atheism is a scientific religion requiring great faith.

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