Don't dictate beliefs

[KJV]

It aint necessarily so wrote:

<quoted text>Not for me. The bible isn't authoritative without faith.

Goes with out saying.

[It aint necessarily so]

KJV wrote:

First off there is not enough data in that passage to determine if the accuracy that you're requiring was in fact needed

It was if the bowl was to be round. If not, the ratio of the diameter to the circumference could approach two.

KJV wrote:

Remember in using just whole numbers Pi = 3

Pi was never discussed in the bible. If you want to use whole numbers only, try 31 and 10. It's closer.

KJV wrote:

The diameter of the basin would be the inside diameter, measured from side to side. But the circumference would be measured by placing a cord around the outside, then measuring the length of the cord.

Says who, besides Christians?

[Thinking]

I don't buy your sh!t fast food. I cook, or I dine.

Kan't Fry Chicken can go f**k itself.

KJV wrote:

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Then it's a good thing Adam wasn't into
Omelets for breakfast yet!
Just think, there would be no KFC today if Adam had eaten those eggs on his first morning.

[Thinking]

So called because they're dead stupid. Keep scrolling.

KJV wrote:

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They are called the Dead Sea scrolls.

[KittenKoder]

KJV wrote:

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Assume that the ribozyme is 300 nucleotides long, and that at each position there could be any of four nucleotides present. The chances of that ribozyme assembling are then 4^300, a number so large that it could not possibly happen by chance even once in 13 billion years, the age of the universe.

Just for giggles, let's pretend it was all chance and not actual chemistry.

DNA itself can be any actual length, the length of modern life forms is just what worked best, and they're all not the same length. So basing the chances on any specific length is fallacious to begin with. Okay, but let's go with the 300 one, the chances of it occurring on a gambler's table would be about 4^300 odds for it. But only on the first try, each subsequent try would decrease that chance exponentially, a good way to illustrate that is each try reduces the 300 by one.

Okay, so say that 30 million such reactions occur in a pool of liquid with the proper chemicals every hour. 30 million ... that's probably low balling it. After 300 the chances are reduced to 4:1, that's 400% chance. Tada, you just provided evidence that it not only can happen, but must happen, by chance alone.

[Ooogah Boogah]

KJV wrote:

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So what you're saying is that nature designed life on earth?

Close enough.

[KittenKoder]

KJV wrote:

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There is evidence in the words of the Bible. Reject all you want. I don't care.
There is evidence all over the world that the Bible is correct and truly the word of God. You won't find what you don't look for.

Nope, those are still assertions not evidence. A rock is evidence, saying what the rock is composed of is an assertion. You have nothing but assertions, and no evidence.

[It aint necessarily so]

KJV wrote:

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Assume that the ribozyme is 300 nucleotides long, and that at each position there could be any of four nucleotides present. The chances of that ribozyme assembling are then 4^300, a number so large that it could not possibly happen by chance even once in 13 billion years, the age of the universe.

Hoyle's fallacy.

[KJV]

Thinking wrote:

<quoted text>I don't buy your sh!t fast food. I cook, or I dine.

Kan't Fry Chicken can go f**k itself.

Septic you're slipping up again.
Your socks has a hole in it.

[KJV]

KittenKoder wrote:

<quoted text>Just for giggles, let's pretend it was all chance and not actual chemistry.

DNA itself can be any actual length, the length of modern life forms is just what worked best, and they're all not the same length. So basing the chances on any specific length is fallacious to begin with. Okay, but let's go with the 300 one, the chances of it occurring on a gambler's table would be about 4^300 odds for it. But only on the first try, each subsequent try would decrease that chance exponentially, a good way to illustrate that is each try reduces the 300 by one.

Okay, so say that 30 million such reactions occur in a pool of liquid with the proper chemicals every hour. 30 million ... that's probably low balling it. After 300 the chances are reduced to 4:1, that's 400% chance. Tada, you just provided evidence that it not only can happen, but must happen, by chance alone.

You seem to forget a very important item. Once a failed attempt is tried nature does not cross it off the list, every go around starts at zero all over again. After 300 chances your odds hasn't changed one bit.

[KJV]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>Close enough.

So you believe in intelligent design?

[Ooogah Boogah]

KJV wrote:

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So you believe in intelligent design?

Only if you regard "nature" as intelligent and natural processes as "design".

[derek4]

Aerobatty wrote:

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How do we deal with Christian fraud?

We don't have to deal with it since it doesn't exist.

We read the Bible, and when “religion” doesn't match up to what the Bible teaches, we recognize it as religious heresy, not Christianity, and we reject it.

Thank you for demonstrating this to us in your post 10590, where you refer to “religious fraud”, which isn't Christianity.

[derek4]

Aerobatty wrote:

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I liked this paragraph:
"Prosperity Gospel–Sometimes referred to as the “Health and Wealth Gospel�, it is a theology which proclaims that one’s faith or speech, combined with generous donations to Christian ministries will increase one’s material wealth. Other less complimentary slang names for it include the “name-it-and-claim-it� or “blab-it-and-grab-it� gospel."
Blab-it-and-grab-it".
ROFL!

The “prosperity gospel” does not line up with Christianity, nor the Bible.

[derek4]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Actually, Huckleberry Finn does require a highschool level to comprehend the basics ...

Actually, Huckleberry Finn does require a highschool level to comprehend the basics ...
I'm sure you would find “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” way over your head, but it's strange you would just come right out and admit that to us. Did you already forget that Mark Twain said “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”?

[KittenKoder]

It aint necessarily so wrote:

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Hoyle's fallacy.

We must make that the official name of it. Anyone second that?

[derek4]

Aerobatty wrote:

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You won't find too many "non religious evangelists".

But haven't you and our other friendly atheists told us the atheists are growing in numbers? And they do have churches. Here's a video on one of them:

http://yourhappyplace.yuku.com/topic/54211/At...

Let me know if you need information on an atheist church in your area, and I'll try to help you find one.

It's refreshing to know you're recognizing your atheism for that it is - a religion. Of course, it's a false religion, but it's still a religion.

[derek4]

Why do atheists form organizations to promote their “no belief”, lol?

Why would anyone want to belong to an organization of “nones”?

When someone says he is an agnostic, he generally means he doesn't know it there's a God – he just isn't sure.

But when someone says he's an atheist, he is saying he is sure there is no God, which means he believes he has some kind of “proof”(or “evidence”) there is no God.

BUT... he cannot demonstrate his “proof”, nor does he have any credible “evidence”, so all he has really proven to all of us is his own dishonesty.

One atheist billboard says “A million New Yorkers are good without God”

Good for what?

http://www.examiner.com/article/atheists-prov...

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[KittenKoder]

derek4 wrote:

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Actually, Huckleberry Finn does require a highschool level to comprehend the basics ...
I'm sure you would find “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” way over your head, but it's strange you would just come right out and admit that to us. Did you already forget that Mark Twain said “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”?

Yet, you do that with every post, removing all doubt of your idiocy.

It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.- Mark Twain (bible)

When one reads Bibles, one is less surprised at what the Deity knows than at what He doesn't know.- Mark Twain (bible)

Who's next? Asimov? I like Asimov too.

[KittenKoder]

derek4 wrote:

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The “prosperity gospel” does not line up with Christianity, nor the Bible.

No true Scotsman fallacy again.