Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11178 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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#10799 Jan 9, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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How's that computer of yours working?
When do you suppose your god will be coming out with the next upgrade?
You often repeat yourself by asking repetitive questions.

Senseless parrots often do the same thing that you do, lol.

I don't have a "god".

The God I worship will not be upgrading his perfect word.

Computers, on the other hand, are like other things made by man. They often fail, they have to be constantly updated and maintained. Some computers, like the worthless theory of evolution, become obsolete and useless.

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#10800 Jan 9, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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I doubt that there's any atheist with an interest in any of the sciences who is not well aware of its failures and faults.
What you, in your infinite hypocrisy, fail to recognize is your own religions faults and failures.
And, even more hypocritically, you post your crap on technology developed by the very science you claim to be such a total failure.
Science has clearly and irrefutably proven that your bible is loaded with lies and falsehoods, and that topples your house of cards.
Your particular version of religion has to adapt or die.
The choice is yours, but the truth, once found, cannot be unfound.
When you have read posts about science fraud and it launches you into a rambling and directionless tirade such as what you just wrote, you show your insecurity in your atheist faith and your science god.

And just a reminder to everyone - should you have any concerns about web page material, you should address those with the publishers at the link provided. I have no interest in your objections to postings of material authored in scientific publications, The Wall Street Journal, and other sources which are generally accepted.

LMAO

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#10801 Jan 9, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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How did that article support what you said? If anything, it showed that science eventually works things out.
So you support “the crooked path”. Okay. What else is new?

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#10802 Jan 9, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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You're a sick bastard.
It won't be long before your particular mental illness will be medically recognized.
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#10803 Jan 9, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Hi Dim
IANS isn't around but I'm sure he won't mind us laughing at you as you shake your scary chicken on a stick.
Remember, I didn't bring up hell. And we're not talking about those chickens atheists say descended from coins.

You need to speak to Hedonist about your concerns, since he's terrified of hell. I was trying to console him, but it won't do him much good. He is determined he wants to go there.

By the way, it sounds like you need “IAN”(s) permission to post what is on your mind. You pore thang - how strange, lol.

You can't think for yourself? Why not? You write hymns, don't you?

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#10804 Jan 9, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Yep, you're psychopathic.
As long as you're looking forward to hell, make the most of it when you get there, but don't blame the Christians who took the right road when you had the same chance and took the wrong road. It's psychopathic of you to want to drag Christians down to your level. Psychopaths want to destroy others. I would like to see all people make it to heaven, but you prefer they go to "your" hell. Sad.

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#10805 Jan 9, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Fighting? Now I get why you think you've actually won discussions here. You don't even know what fighting and debates are.
If that caused you pain, expect a lot more, as we will continue to discuss a wide range of subjects.
What in the world did poor Kitten say that makes you so angry toward her?

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#10806 Jan 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
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There appears to be an increase in atheist hostilities toward the Christians.
Why would the be? LOL
Their rising hotilities are directly proportionate to their losses, lol.
KJV

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#10811 Jan 9, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Choice? Like there is no book, and your name hasn't been written there-in? If your name is not there, can you do anything to get it put in? If your name is there, can you do anything that would get your name taken out?

What do you propose to do about your great granny's, great granny, making the choice to let the tinkers son have his way with her? If he had just hightailed without leaving that little dribble* behind, your great granny's, great granny's child would not have forced you to choose hell.

It's too bad for you and lucky for your spell casters that just about every human ever born has a bastard or twelve in just about every generation, so really nobody gets to go to heaven. No proof works best for the man with the sermon, and his pet politician.

Still if you are one of the three or four humans ever who meet every criteria, for admittance into heaven, I do hope you are male, Jewish, virgin and ready ..... cause, Dude the bridegroom cometh and you are the bride.

* soon to be bastard
"Choice? Like there is no book, and your name hasn't been written there-in? If your name is not there, can you do anything to get it put in? If your name is there, can you do anything that would get your name taken out?"

Yes choice
Yes there is a book of life.
Yes our name are in that book.
Yes you can get you name added to the book of life.
Yes just keep doing what you're doing. That should keep your name out of that book.

“Think&Care”

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#10814 Jan 9, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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So you support “the crooked path”. Okay. What else is new?
That's how it always is at the boundary of knowledge. False starts, misunderstandings, bad assumptions, etc. But, eventually, the truth wins out because we keep *testing*. New people get ahead by showing old ideas are wrong *by observations everyone can verify*. So, yes, the path is quite crooked. But that is to be expected since we are actually trying to learn more rather than simply sitting on old assumptions (like religion does).

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

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#10815 Jan 9, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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What in the world did poor Kitten say that makes you so angry toward her?
You silly twit, if your skull gets any emptier, it just may implode ... not that you would care, but we probably won't "not take" notice.
http://www.shadowmillproductions.com/photogal...

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

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#10816 Jan 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
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"Choice? Like there is no book, and your name hasn't been written there-in? If your name is not there, can you do anything to get it put in? If your name is there, can you do anything that would get your name taken out?"
Yes choice
Yes there is a book of life.
Yes our name are in that book.
Yes you can get you name added to the book of life.
Yes just keep doing what you're doing. That should keep your name out of that book.
So your god doesn't know who will and who won't be in the book? Really, not much of a god.

I like that we are in charge of how we bounce him around.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#10817 Jan 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
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"It's too bad for you and lucky for your spell casters that just about every human ever born has a bastard or twelve in just about every generation, so really nobody gets to go to heaven. No proof works best for the man with the sermon, and his pet politician"
Note to Reason Personified: try and not show your complete ignorance of the Christian faith with postings like this.
(Nut case!)
Jesus is consigned to the lake of fire already. If you believe the bible, then you have to believe that. Mary and Jehovah cuckolded Joseph, and his marrying her did not make the illegitimate child his at all. The child was born a bastard, and bound for hell, just ask your god.
KJV

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#10818 Jan 9, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>So your god doesn't know who will and who won't be in the book? Really, not much of a god.

I like that we are in charge of how we bounce him around.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't have a god.
KJV

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#10819 Jan 9, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus is consigned to the lake of fire already. If you believe the bible, then you have to believe that. Mary and Jehovah cuckolded Joseph, and his marrying her did not make the illegitimate child his at all. The child was born a bastard, and bound for hell, just ask your god.
As stated before.(Nut case)

Since: Mar 11

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#10820 Jan 9, 2013
For someone who doesn't care about atheism you sure spend a lot of time writing about it.
derek4 wrote:
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For someone who doesn't care what the Bible says, you sure spend a lot of time writing about it.

Since: Mar 11

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#10821 Jan 9, 2013
Again why should anyone accept this creator is anything more than a figment of someone's imagination a delusion handed down generation to generation?

The bible is a hodge podge of legends collected from the Middle East. Why would it be so difficult for a writer to read or hear a story from a century ago and then pen his own similar story incorporating some of the same characters. Hell Joseph Smith did that, nothing special I could write some bible myth inspired fan fiction like he did, that doesn't prove that God is real.

All you have done is argue band wagon fallacy, injected your biased opinion and then went off on some random temper tantrum about an off topic subject like Darwin. Sorry but evolution has nothing to do with atheism.

I am not even asking for proof of God here, I am merely asking why I or anyone should accept him as anything more than a figment of someone's imagination.

It seems you don't have an answer as expected.
derek4 wrote:
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God is the Creator of heaven and earth and everything else. The Bible was not written by “someone”(s) imagination. It has many authors, spanning centuries. None of it has ever been proven untrue. People try all the time, and fail, because there are valid explanations for anything that on the surface appears to be a discrepancy. One part of it refers to another, confirms another, and all can be reconciled. Why would so many authors from so many centuries create an imaginary story? How could they confer with one another to do so when their lives did not overlap? Why would they endure persecution and die for an imaginary belief? What was to be gained?

Since: Mar 11

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#10822 Jan 9, 2013
I asked a question and I believe you are unable to answer it as you have clearly demonstrated.
KJV wrote:
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If that's what you believe.

Since: Mar 11

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#10823 Jan 9, 2013
My main point was just that, not letting them frame the debate into a God vs Darwin argument. We're smarter than that. Retired pharmacist sorry I can't get you a discount on Z-packs anymore :(

My drug reaction example was really more geared towards the theist or person who wants to use the 100% claim on atheists and that of we can't show that the sky wizard doesn't exist 100% we are the same as a religious person. Few things can be demonstrated 100% but what we people of reason do is examine the facts and come to the best possible answer.

To the 100% asking theist I would like to ask them if they could demonstrate 1% of evidence for their sky wizard :)

A pleasure as always IANS I hope you have been doing well.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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OK. I see your point. I agree. I try to never let the Christian frame the discussion whenever I'm aware its happening.
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Drugs, huh? Are you a pharmacist?
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Sure. Interesting.
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You seem to think that the theist is your target. If that's what you think, I suggest looking at what you're doing from another perspective. We're your audience - the other skeptics. There's really nothing urgent about the post to the theist like there is when you're on the phone to a prescribing doc trying to prevent an untoward drug reaction. You don't really have to get through to the theist. In fact, you can bet you won't.
Look at it like this: If it were only you and Dim in this thread, or if it were just you and him sending emails back and forth,how long ago would you have been out of here? First day? Second?
If that's so, doesn't it mean that you already understand all of that intuitively, even if you weren't explicitly aware of it?
We're your audience, you're a good communicator, and you don't have to choose your words carefully for us.
Did I understand you correctly? Are we discussing the same thing?

“ecrasez l'infame”

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Atlanta, Georgia

#10824 Jan 9, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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It's not abuse if it's true.

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