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No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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In the macro world.

#10727 Jan 9, 2013
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>The “prosperity gospel” does not line up with Christianity, nor the Bible.
No true Scotsman fallacy again.

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#10728 Jan 9, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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It's not the parts of the bible he didn't understand that worried him, it was the parts he did understand that disgusted him, and I agree.
He knows more of the smut you call the bible than you want to admit because you think you can trick naive children into following your command and buying your snake oil. The real reason you can't stand us atheists is because we work to prevent you from taking advantage of the naive minds, perverting them with your twisted lack of logic, destroying their wills to accomplish greatness just so you can pretend you know everything while you lack even basic comprehension of facts. Your level of intelligence is that of a gnat, stuck on a window pane, caught in the web of lies that your religion is made of. You know you're an idiot, so you must attempt to convince others to become as stupid as you so you don't feel like a total idiot. You are self centered and arrogant, yet unlike me, you did not earn that arrogance. You are a conman, a serpent charmer, and nothing more.
Does this mean we're not going to be best friends anymore?

lol

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#10729 Jan 9, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>It's not exactly smut, but the religitard world would consider it so. It is an adult book, that my children loved.
Seven Lady Godivas: The True Facts Concerning History's Barest Family by Dr. Suess. "The Seven Lady Godiva's, is a beautiful story of love, honor and scientific achievement.
I've had a "every body get's to thumb through this one" copy in my living room for over 20 years, and another mint copy hidden away.
http://www.amazon.com/Seven-Lady-Godivas-Conc...
It's painful to see you atheists fighting with each other, lol.

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#10730 Jan 9, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
First, why should anyone care about what the bible says? It's words have been changed more than a porn star's boyfriend.
Second, why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's imagination?
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For someone who doesn't care what the Bible says, you sure spend a lot of time writing about it.

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#10731 Jan 9, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
This is why I say we need to stop arguing science with the theists on here and in general. For one they don't comprehend what they are dying and asking they just repeat lines they steal from apologetic websites. They have no interest in learning and even if they did since when did atheists become free teachers for the world? When we allow them to make the conversation a god vs science argument it is a futile venture because of the above reasons and most importantly because we are allowing them to frame the debate to their fallacy filled liking.
Atheism is not believing in god/s. it's not evolution, the Big Bang, abiogenesis or science in general these are all different subjects and it's time we start holding their feet o the fire on showing evidence for what they believe instead of arguing unrelated science facts with people who couldn't grasp it if you paid them to.
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Right – since science fraud is disturbing to you, don't read material from “apologetic websites” like The New York Times, The Washington Post, and the various scientific journals that have been posted over the past 3 months.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10732 Jan 9, 2013
Google is your friend.

http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>WTF is a cubit?

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#10733 Jan 9, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Speaking of meaningful posts maybe one of you theists can finally answer this question. Why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's imagination?
Stop being a coward answer the question.
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Is that the question you kept referring to? No wonder I couldn't remember, it's the same old question that atheists ask all the time – nothing sets it apart from the run-of-the-mill atheist questions we hear every day asking for proof of God. So why do you bother to ask it?

It's already been answered for you time and again in many different ways by Christians. If you choose not to accept the answers you've already been given over and over and over and over and over, then why do you need more answers? Are you just plain dense?[YES]

God is the Creator of heaven and earth and everything else. The Bible was not written by “someone”(s) imagination. It has many authors, spanning centuries. None of it has ever been proven untrue. People try all the time, and fail, because there are valid explanations for anything that on the surface appears to be a discrepancy. One part of it refers to another, confirms another, and all can be reconciled. Why would so many authors from so many centuries create an imaginary story? How could they confer with one another to do so when their lives did not overlap? Why would they endure persecution and die for an imaginary belief? What was to be gained?

Science is your god. It has failed you so many times.

Why should anyone accept science and it's fraud? Why should anyone believe Darwin, a sick bodied, sick minded man who conspired with fraudulent scientists to produce this “theory” back in the 1850's? What peer review groups checked out his work? How credible were the peer review groups? What of the unanswered or badly answered questions evolution has never resolved that have been posted here? You put your faith in all that? You truly live in a faith filled imaginary world full of potholes, fake evidence, and lies.

What about all the people like you who believed what Lamarck told them? They believed he was right, just as you believe Darwin was right. Lamarck was wrong. His followers were wrong. Darwin was wrong, and you are wrong.

http://www.arn.org/docs/dardoc1.htm

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#10734 Jan 9, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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No true Scotsman fallacy.
When you and Kitten can't find the words, you dismiss it with another “nothing” post. Hahahaha - way to go, atheists. I see that all the time – it's from atheist training school memo #101.

What's even funnier is that you both copied each other (or you copied her) and dismissed one point YOU made that I actually agreed with you on about the “prosperity gospel”. Had you been a faster thinker, you could have used that to your own advantage, but no, you hurt your own cause by missing the opportunity.

It's fool enough to be an atheist, but it takes an even bigger fool to shoot themselves in their own foot the way you do.

“ecrasez l'infame”

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Atlanta, Georgia

#10735 Jan 9, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Google is your friend.
http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
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There's also another way to get the point across --

" http://lmgtfy.com/... ;

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#10736 Jan 9, 2013
Atheist Leo Tolstoy was miserable. His life was meaningless, and without purpose; filled with despair.

That's the ultimate destination of every person who subscribes to the atheist worldview.

According to atheists, all that's in the world, and the world itself is doomed to end in nothing but meaningless death and decay.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighb...

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#10737 Jan 9, 2013
The atheist religion assures us that there is no purpose to our existence.

The only thing we have to look forward to is pain and suffering followed by death and decay.

“Survival of the fittest” may only add a few meaningless years to the healthiest atheist, but all is pointless.

Unfortunately, atheism has no solution to this gloomy dilemma.

http://www.whypain.org/

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#10738 Jan 9, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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Is that the question you kept referring to? No wonder I couldn't remember, it's the same old question that atheists ask all the time – nothing sets it apart from the run-of-the-mill atheist questions we hear every day asking for proof of God. So why do you bother to ask it?
It's already been answered for you time and again in many different ways by Christians. If you choose not to accept the answers you've already been given over and over and over and over and over, then why do you need more answers? Are you just plain dense?[YES]
God is the Creator of heaven and earth and everything else. The Bible was not written by “someone”(s) imagination. It has many authors, spanning centuries. None of it has ever been proven untrue. People try all the time, and fail, because there are valid explanations for anything that on the surface appears to be a discrepancy. One part of it refers to another, confirms another, and all can be reconciled. Why would so many authors from so many centuries create an imaginary story? How could they confer with one another to do so when their lives did not overlap? Why would they endure persecution and die for an imaginary belief? What was to be gained?
Science is your god. It has failed you so many times.
Why should anyone accept science and it's fraud? Why should anyone believe Darwin, a sick bodied, sick minded man who conspired with fraudulent scientists to produce this “theory” back in the 1850's? What peer review groups checked out his work? How credible were the peer review groups? What of the unanswered or badly answered questions evolution has never resolved that have been posted here? You put your faith in all that? You truly live in a faith filled imaginary world full of potholes, fake evidence, and lies.
What about all the people like you who believed what Lamarck told them? They believed he was right, just as you believe Darwin was right. Lamarck was wrong. His followers were wrong. Darwin was wrong, and you are wrong.
http://www.arn.org/docs/dardoc1.htm
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In other words, there is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof of any god's existence.

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#10739 Jan 9, 2013
Science tries to explain, but terminates in blind alleys.

Science has failed us.

http://www.economist.com/node/13813436

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#10740 Jan 9, 2013
“Thomas Paine, atheist, had a pathetic death.

A nurse who attended him in his final hour reported that he said:

"I would give worlds had I not written The Age Of Reason. Oh, Lord help me. Oh Christ help me. Stay with me for God's sake. Send even a little child to stay with me. It is hell to be alone. If the devil ever had an agent I am that one."

http://www.pulpittoday.com/sermons/view/54

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#10741 Jan 9, 2013
What did Francis Newport have to say when he died at age 88?

“Oh, that I could lie for a thousand years upon the fire that is never quenched, to purchase the favor of God and be united to Him again. But it is a fruitless wish. Millions and millions of years will bring me no nearer the end of my torments than one poor hour. Oh, eternity, eternity forever and forever! Oh, the insufferable pangs of Hell!”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Newport,...

Francis Newport, lost for all eternity; still in flames.

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#10742 Jan 9, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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In other words, there is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof of any god's existence.
There is no proof that you accept - just asyou haven't provided proof of evolution. Both our sides have already stated it using your meaningless simplistic terms, which is why I elaborated. If you have nothing new to say, it's really pointless for you to post, lol. On the other hand, if posting it helps to reassure yourself of your fraudulent atheistic belief, feel free to do so. But to continue posting the same thing that you do for the next 40 years, doesn't change anything, nor help your lost cause.

“ecrasez l'infame”

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#10743 Jan 9, 2013
derek4 wrote:
What did Francis Newport have to say when he died at age 88?
“Oh, that I could lie for a thousand years upon the fire that is never quenched, to purchase the favor of God and be united to Him again. But it is a fruitless wish. Millions and millions of years will bring me no nearer the end of my torments than one poor hour. Oh, eternity, eternity forever and forever! Oh, the insufferable pangs of Hell!”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Newport,...
Francis Newport, lost for all eternity; still in flames.
How can any sane and loving human being be happy in heaven knowing that millions of people, innocent or not, are being tortured for eternity?

This heaven is a place void of empathy, an asylum for psychopaths.

Apparently you would fit right in.

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#10744 Jan 9, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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How can any sane and loving human being be happy in heaven knowing that millions of people, innocent or not, are being tortured for eternity?
This heaven is a place void of empathy, an asylum for psychopaths.
Apparently you would fit right in.
So those who go to heaven are supposed to want to go to hell and be unhappy with those who made the wrong choice?

Not me.

But I'd suggest you don't go to heaven then. If you want to be unhappy in hell with the millions who chose it for themselves, that's your right.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#10745 Jan 9, 2013
derek4 wrote:
The atheist religion assures us that there is no purpose to our existence.
The only thing we have to look forward to is pain and suffering followed by death and decay.
“Survival of the fittest” may only add a few meaningless years to the healthiest atheist, but all is pointless.
Unfortunately, atheism has no solution to this gloomy dilemma.
Disagree. The fact that there is no afterlife, means that we make the most of our time here; without the need to place false hope or fear in the time after we die. This makes life more precious and each day important.

We each make our own purpose for our lives as we see fit.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#10746 Jan 9, 2013
Nice one! There are a lot of lazy thinkers on this forum... must be a belief thing.
Hedonist wrote:
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There's also another way to get the point across --
" http://lmgtfy.com/... ;

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