Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11176 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#10393 Jan 5, 2013
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>The atheists would like to have news reports of fraudulent science removed, and your posts removed as well. In fact, they would like to have everything they disagree with removed so all that remains is atheists agreeing with one another, lol. They think this makes them winners.

Are they winners because they get all posts removed that they disagree with? Unfortunately for them, no. Our posts have already been read, so removing them in the next day or so won't really do much for their cause, lmao.

This forum is about dictating beliefs, which is the specialty of atheists. They do it by attempting to rewrite history and substitute all truth with atheist propaganda. Isn't it sad for them they can't get the news accounts about fraudulent science reported in The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal removed from the internet and censor all news reports?

But if that's the way they want to play, that's fine - I always see a lot of atheist posts that should be removed for various reasons, and reporting works both ways.
These are always same little trolls on here. They add nothing, they could save a lot of time by numbering their post and then they could just type a number because its the same crap post to post
I think most of these might really be only 3 people playing their little games.

Well I got my laugh for to day I'll catch you later derek4. Have a good one.

I'm like behind by 30 some pages.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10394 Jan 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Liar
Totally wrong.
http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/19...
Last Updated: 06/03/2012 00:14
These 10 Bible prophecies were fulfilled in 1948 when Israel became an independent, united nation for the second time in history, and for the first time in 2,900 years.© 100 Prophecies
That "prophecy" was forcibly fulfilled, also called "self fulfilling" prophecies because believers who wanted it fulfilled made it so. It would be the same as "prophesying" that I will be eating pizza sometime in the future.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10395 Jan 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Lies again
We have evidence.
Where is it? We keep asking, you never provide, you evade and dodge or outright ignore the request. Until you present evidence then you are the liar, not me.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10396 Jan 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
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No you were just caught in another lie
Demonstrate how what I really said was a lie.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10397 Jan 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Duh!
And what happens on earth when it happens?
We'll all be dead long before there is any catastrophe, with the exception of a possible meteor collision but those we can only predict out a few days in advance.

The other changes are not catastrophic. The Earth's poles shift all the time, it "wobbles," as someone else described quite aptly, a few years ago they feared it may flip because the "wobble" had been slightly more than usual ... it was a false alarm but meh, having to recalibrate "North" on everything wouldn't be that huge a deal.

You can't face facts, the only "normal" in the universe, the only constant that is not mathematical, the only thing that remains the same is change, everything changes, and the strong things change with the universe. Anything that does not change fails every time.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10398 Jan 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Puppet boy can't remember anything as his Pi argument about the bible and Pi is nothing it's been debunked yet it's all he has so he keeps swing away with it. Kind of sad.
"The Bible and the Value of "PI"
Does the Bible contain a mathematical error? Not at all!
Biblical Value of Pi
1.0471698, which multiplied by 3 is pi. "1047" in the Old Testament lexicon can be transliterated as "pi." Hence, "house of pi." Indeed, truth is stranger than fiction.
Solomon and the Molten Sea
In describing the temple that King Solomon built for the King of Kings, several articles of furniture are described. One of these pieces is “a molten sea.” II Chronicles 4:2 reads thus,“Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.” A supposed discrepancy has arisen from this passage concerning the mathematical accuracy of the Bible. The value of π(pi) is known to be equal to the circumference of a circle divided by its diameter,
The a fore mentioned scripture states that the molten sea was “ten cubits from brim to brim” and “a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about;” thus, its diameter was 10 cubits, and its circumference 30 cubits. Dividing this circumference of 30 by a diameter of 10 gives a value of exactly 3. This is where the questions arise. It is commonly known that the value of π is approximately 3.14159265358979. In fact, this value has been proven so exactly, that its value is known to hundreds of thousands of digits.
Why then does the Bible appear to give the value of π to be 3? A diameter of 10 cubits should yield a circle having a circumference of more that 31.4 cubits--not 30 cubits. Is the Bible just rounding things off? Are the Biblical values just approximate and not really exact? If we see here that the scripture is not exact, what otherpassages also contain words that cannot be received with complete accuracy?
1 Kings 7:26 It [the above mentioned metal pool] was a handbreadth in thickness, and its rim was like the rim of a cup,like a lily blossom. It held two thousand baths.
If the diameter of this bowl was 10 cubits, then the circumference should have been 31.415926 cubits, and not just 30 cubits! Any math student will tell you that the circumference of a circle is found by taking the diameter times Pi (3.14159265358979...), is commonly approximated by 22/7 if great accuracy is not needed. Is this an error? Think again. The answer is so simple!
Aplogetics.

Strange how you have no problem believing the Bible when it says that creation took 6 days but you refuse to believe the Bible when it gives a ratio of 3:1 for Pi.

I always said that you guys just make it all up as you go along.

Looks like I'm right.

Now, where are these corrected Bibles that you say exist?

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10399 Jan 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Wishing I would leave?
Why is that? Because I keep debunking your third grade arguments against the Bible?
Go back to your comic books, hear you're almost done with Scooby doobie doo! NN
Your position is that the Bible is not perfect - I'm just adding further evidence to support your viewpoint.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10400 Jan 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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I have to it's the only one I have.
Oh that's right I'm really all the Theist
Yup one person fending off all you little trolls.
There really such a similarity in your posting with Skippy, and the serpent was right and a few others so what I'm thinking is you start looking for puppets because you're so use to using puppets.
Please let me know what is the advantage of you pretending to be more then one maggot. What do you believe you gain by this?
No proof of god, your only reason here is to try to convert atheists. You can go back to the discovery institute now, its game over.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10401 Jan 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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endogenous retroviruses do not rely on the fossil record and they also prove evolution is a fact. There are 29 different ways to prove evolution is a fact.
Your God ... not so much."
FACT evolutions is not a fact!
Idiots and liars listed above!
Dolts!
Lol

You're desperate

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10402 Jan 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
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2.3% what a joke your religion is!
You claim all humans are born atheist.
Ok that means at one time you had 100% of the human population. The current percentage of the world population is at 2.3%.
That means that 97.7% of your congregation has left your faith!!
WTF is wrong with you guys?
97.7%!!!!!!!
Do you realize how many people that is?
Man you're not just losing them at that rate there running from you! LMFAO
You don't believe your own statistics.

We already know that you don't believe your own posts so this is just a natural follow-on from that fact.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10403 Jan 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
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"
The CIA World Factbook gives the world population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.35%(of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%, Hindu 13.78%, Buddhist 7.13%, Sikh 0.36%, Jewish 0.21%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 11.17%, non-religious 9.42%, atheists 2.04%."
Wow. A whole 2.04% you guys are kicking some ass. LOL
You don't believe your own statistics.

If you did, then you'd be in an Islamic or Hindu forum.

However you're not.

Why is that?

It's because you know that your myth is crumbling and you see Atheism as the biggest threat to your superstition.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10404 Jan 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Thank you but I must inform you I did not write the Bible.
I sense frustration on your part. What you don't like being held to the facts?
You would love to jump science to change their theory's to facts so you can prove me wrong. To bad they are stuck at theory's because they are not facts.
No, you didn't write the Bible.

According to you, some people known as "they" write the Bible by correcting it every time a new document is found.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10405 Jan 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
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"in the unlikely event of me being wrong, I'm the first to admit it. "
Then your post should all be posted with a retraction. Oh well another atheist lie.
Lol

You accuse people of lying?

ROFLMAO!!!

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10406 Jan 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
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You didn't know that?
Wow your list of uneducated just keeps growing.
Let's hold this thought.

First you openly admit that the Bible is not perfect - I thank you for confirming to us that you don't believe the Bible is perfect....
KJV wrote:
"When does religion correct itself?... "
All the time!!! Every time older documents are found they make the appropriate changes to the Bible.
To which I responded...
Khatru wrote:
Really? Who are "they"?

Where are the corrections made to the Bible that incorporate the Acts of Paul and Thecla? Just think how you believers can thrill with excitement at the part where Thecla leaps into a moat full of man-eating seals and how Jehovah sends down a thunderbolt to kill all the seals.

Where's the Gospel of Thomas? It was found in 1945 and no insertions, deletions or amendments have been made to the Bible.
What about the Gospel of Peter? That was found in 1886. Where are the changes to the Bible made by these people you refer to as "they"?

You would have thought that they (whoever they may be) would have changed the Bible to accommodate Peter. After all, Peter's gospel provides the only eye-witness account of Jesus emerging from the tomb.

You believers love your eye-witness accounts so why hasn't the Bible been changed?

Peter tells us that Jesus emerged from the tomb with two angels and was followed by a talking cross. Once in the open, Jesus and the angels grew to a height of thousands of feet until their heads were lost in the heavens. According to the account, this was witnessed by a Roman centurion and his soldiers (usually eighty men) and also the Jewish Elders.

Why isn't this in the Bible?

Perhaps it's because your claims of amendments being made every time new documents are found is just another of your many lies.

Why do you lie?

You know it makes the baby Jesus weep.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10407 Jan 6, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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Computers, just like other things made by man, are imperfect like man. They constantly have to be updated and maintained. Many, like the theory of evolution, are obsolete and useless today.
Lol

The Theory of Evolution is a reality that terrifies you.

Although I doubt it terrifies you as much as your god does.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10408 Jan 6, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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It amazes me that you're so informed about Noah, yet you didn't read the rest of the Old Testament.
No wonder you don't believe in God, you don't know anything about the Bible or God.
Psalms 90:4
I lack the intestinal fortitude to read through the Bible in its entirety.

In any event I turn away from your superstition because of what I do know about it, not because of what I do not.

Besides, you don't need to know anything about fairy lore to have a sensible opinion about the existence of fairies.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10409 Jan 6, 2013
derek4 wrote:
Stalin imprisoned church leaders; churches closed down.
Neighbors reported violators and they were sent to the gulag.
When Stalin was in power, only party members were safe.
That's what atheists do.....
http://www.johndclare.net/Basics_Russia.htm
No copyrighted material was reproduced in this post.
How undignified for you to compare your superstition to Stalin.

This only serves to indicate just how threatened you feel.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#10410 Jan 6, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>I lack the intestinal fortitude to read through the Bible in its entirety.

In any event I turn away from your superstition because of what I do know about it, not because of what I do not.

Besides, you don't need to know anything about fairy lore to have a sensible opinion about the existence of fairies.
Any attempts I've made to read the bible are just so monumentally tedious that I can't make it through a page without falling asleep.

There WAS a bible I found once when working in a building where I work that had been converted to a warehousing operation that was marked with tabs and highlighting that had some interesting and readable passages.

I could tell from the marked passages that whoever hadn't led them found some level of comfort and meaning in them.

I would be willing to bet that the person had little or no interest in science.

What bothers me most about the Christians here is their obstinate denial of established and proven science and their refusal to even recognize the existence of evidence is mind numbing.

It marks them as people whose beliefs cannot withstand reason.

Ignorance is understandable. Willful ignorance is not.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#10411 Jan 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Any attempts I've made to read the bible are just so monumentally tedious that I can't make it through a page without falling asleep.

There WAS a bible I found once when working in a building where I work that had been converted to a warehousing operation that was marked with tabs and highlighting that had some interesting and readable passages.

I could tell from the marked passages that whoever hadn't led them found some level of comfort and meaning in them.

I would be willing to bet that the person had little or no interest in science.

What bothers me most about the Christians here is their obstinate denial of established and proven science and their refusal to even recognize the existence of evidence is mind numbing.

It marks them as people whose beliefs cannot withstand reason.

Ignorance is understandable. Willful ignorance is not.
"Hadn't led" should be "had marked them".

No idea how that happened.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#10412 Jan 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
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I have shown that you refuse to start at the beginning. Zero. You have no proof for you to jump to a 1:1. There is no proof of the Big Bang only supporting evidence hence your still at zero.
There is no proof and no evidence of spontaneous life, again you're still at zero.
There is no proof of the theory of evolution. Again you're still at zero.
Now what was it that gets you off the zero?
That's NOT how probability theory works. You're just making stuff up.
KJV wrote:
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http://www.reasons.org/articles/articles/fulf...
"Hence, the probability of chance fulfillment for this prophecy is 1 in 5000 x 10 x 2, which is 1 in 100,000, or 1 in 105."
Again with making stuff up. It's a shame you don't understand enough about probability to see just how lame this line of argument is.

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