Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11178 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Star Press.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#10206 Jan 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Nope. The math is correct.
The odds against the big three (The Big Bang, Spontaneous Life, Evolution)
vs the odds that the 2000 prophecy that have come true all from one book (The Bible).
Look at those two sets of numbers.
The odds that the big 3 are correct and evolution has brought us all the way up to today.
And the odds of those prophecies around 2000 all listed in one book all fulfilled to date leavening less then 500 prophecies that for tell the end time.
According to math it's no contest.
The Bible wins hands down.
As I prophecised, your analysis of the odds is severely flawed.

We can over look for the moment, the causal effect I pointed out earlier.

Let's just consider your Messiah prophesy for a moment. The OT propagandized there would be a Messiah named 'Immanuel'.... we'll even over look the fact that no part of Jesus' name is 'Immanuel'.

What are the odds in the first century with this "prophecy" in effect and hundreds of first century preachers vie-ing to be declared this Messiah ... what are the odds that someone would claim either to BE this Messiah or to have found this Messiah and can speak for him (like Saul/Paul likely did).... what are the "odds" of this even in your crackpot estimation?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#10207 Jan 4, 2013
The majority of people used to think the earth was flat. The best rise to the top and usually they are few and sadly there are many naive people fearing a delusion called god.
derek4 wrote:
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“In 2010, there were 2.30 billion Christians in the world, an increase of 300 million from two billion in 2005.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_popula...
I'd like to see the statistics on the explosive growth of atheism as it takes over the world. Can you help us with that, Adam?
Also, we would appreciate some statistics from you on how many millions of people were killed by communistic atheist regimes in our world history.
Thanks for your cooperation.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10208 Jan 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Going back to listing the facts of evolution.
1)
Thanks for admitting you have not once looked at the evidence and facts shown to you.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10209 Jan 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. The math is correct.
The odds against the big three (The Big Bang, Spontaneous Life, Evolution)
vs the odds that the 2000 prophecy that have come true all from one book (The Bible).
Look at those two sets of numbers.
The odds that the big 3 are correct and evolution has brought us all the way up to today.
And the odds of those prophecies around 2000 all listed in one book all fulfilled to date leavening less then 500 prophecies that for tell the end time.
According to math it's no contest.
The Bible wins hands down.
A statement after the fact is not a prophecy, and nothing in the bible was written prior to those, except the one that was forcibly fulfilled by humans who believe in that nonsense. Face it, you are lying now.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#10210 Jan 4, 2013
You will have to show these so called prophecies that are specific not vague and proven to have happened after the passage was written. Again specific not some random vague oh bad things will happen lol!

Jesus stated children sitting at his feet would not die before the end would come. Jesus was wrong :)

But worse if he is god or his son and he couldn't even get that right what can he get right? Even worse he is the one that is supposed to be leading the charge for the end days! What did he just get bored for 2000 years? Did he not get it on his to do list? Wtf!

Ok we will be waiting for these 2000 specific prophecies that ONLY happened after the passage was written.

Hurry up now.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. The math is correct.
The odds against the big three (The Big Bang, Spontaneous Life, Evolution)
vs the odds that the 2000 prophecy that have come true all from one book (The Bible).
Look at those two sets of numbers.
The odds that the big 3 are correct and evolution has brought us all the way up to today.
And the odds of those prophecies around 2000 all listed in one book all fulfilled to date leavening less then 500 prophecies that for tell the end time.
According to math it's no contest.
The Bible wins hands down.
KJV

United States

#10211 Jan 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>You should take your god filters off before reading science. You made an assumption before even reading the post, and it's showing.
You are correct I miss read the post.

"Evolutionists have used shared mistakes in ‘junk DNA’ as ‘proof’ that humans and chimps have a common ancestor. However, if the similar sequences are functional, which they are progressively proving to be, their argument evaporates.

It seems that evolutionist Dr John Mattick, director of the Institute for Molecular Bioscience at the University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia, was spot on in his assessment of the gravity of the ‘junk DNA’ error:

‘The failure to recognize the full implications of this—particularly the possibility that the intervening noncoding sequences may be transmitting parallel information … may well go down as one of the biggest mistakes in the history of molecular biology.
Both biblical creationists and ID proponents predicted that transposable elements, such as ‘endogenous retroviruses’, would have a function. In 2000, creationist molecular biologist Linda Walkup proposed that God could have created transposable elements to facilitate variation (adaptation) within biblical kinds.

If the ‘junk DNA’ is not junk, then it puts a big spanner in the work of molecular taxonomists, who assumed that ‘junk DNA’ was free to mutate at random, unconstrained by the requirements of functionality. As Williams points out:

‘The molecular taxonomists, who have been drawing up evolutionary histories (“phylogenies”) for nearly every kind of life, are going to have to undo all their years of “junk DNA”-based historical reconstructions and wait for the full implications to emerge before they try again.’"
KJV

United States

#10212 Jan 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Which part of evolution? Here's the evolution of humans: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC050.h...

What other parts do you want? Hint: There's a LOT you missed.
Lets list the actual proven facts of evolution.

1)
KJV

United States

#10213 Jan 4, 2013
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>The last thing I need on earth is any "right" you may bestow.

LMAO
LOL.

Post a comment of your own and they will condemn you for not having enough credentials. Quote an expert and you're a spammer.

Oh and then they will post that the article is false. Like they're the expert. LOL.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10214 Jan 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
You are correct I miss read the post.
"Evolutionists have used shared mistakes in ‘junk DNA’ as ‘proof’ that humans and chimps have a common ancestor. However, if the similar sequences are functional, which they are progressively proving to be, their argument evaporates.
It seems that evolutionist Dr John Mattick, director of the Institute for Molecular Bioscience at the University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia, was spot on in his assessment of the gravity of the ‘junk DNA’ error:
‘The failure to recognize the full implications of this—particularly the possibility that the intervening noncoding sequences may be transmitting parallel information … may well go down as one of the biggest mistakes in the history of molecular biology.
Both biblical creationists and ID proponents predicted that transposable elements, such as ‘endogenous retroviruses’, would have a function. In 2000, creationist molecular biologist Linda Walkup proposed that God could have created transposable elements to facilitate variation (adaptation) within biblical kinds.
If the ‘junk DNA’ is not junk, then it puts a big spanner in the work of molecular taxonomists, who assumed that ‘junk DNA’ was free to mutate at random, unconstrained by the requirements of functionality. As Williams points out:
‘The molecular taxonomists, who have been drawing up evolutionary histories (“phylogenies”) for nearly every kind of life, are going to have to undo all their years of “junk DNA”-based historical reconstructions and wait for the full implications to emerge before they try again.’"
"Junk DNA" is a layperson/creationist canard. Try harder, and stick to scientific inquiry in the discussion of scientific matters.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10215 Jan 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets list the actual proven facts of evolution.
1)
Still ignoring the facts and evidence. Not surprising.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#10216 Jan 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
According to math it's no contest.
The Bible wins hands down.
Or in your case; according to meth...

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#10217 Jan 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets list the actual proven facts of evolution.
1)
\\\
again. You never actually addressed my post the last time I answered you --

" http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... ;

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#10218 Jan 4, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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again. You never actually addressed my post the last time I answered you --
" http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... ;
Yea, the coward doesn't answer all of my questions either.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#10219 Jan 4, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, the coward doesn't answer all of my questions either.
You stated the reason in this post, he's a coward.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#10220 Jan 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You stated the reason in this post, he's a coward.
Yes, but he is getting a lot of attention - which is, as he has admitted, all he really wants.
KJV

United States

#10221 Jan 4, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Here's some successes:

http://www.scripps.edu/about/achievements.htm...

Here are just the first 3:

Addiction, providing evidence that the drug gabapentin affects certain components of the alcohol addiction cycle in the brain, supporting the idea that the medication, which is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for treating seizures and pain, also holds potential for the treatment of alcohol dependence.(Roberto, Koob, Siggins labs, 2008; clinical trial results, Mason lab, 2012)
HIV/AIDS, elucidating the structure of a number of human antibodies that neutralize many different strains of the virus—work that may one day contribute to an HIV vaccine.(Wilson, Burton labs (with Ollmann Saphire), 2001 – 2011).
Multiple sclerosis, developing the first of a new class of highly selective comopunds that effectively suppresses the severity of multiple sclerosis in animal models.(Burris lab, 2011).
“Swine flu,” solving the structure of a key protein from the virus that caused the recent H1N1 influenza epidemic. The structure reveals that the virus shares many features with influenza viruses common in the early 20th century, helping to explain why, in general, older individuals have been less severely affected by the recent outbreak than younger ones.(Wilson lab, 2010)

That means it's from an educational institute.
I forgot who I was dealing with. I must remind myself that I'm dealing with children.

You don't know what the difference is between good science and bad science?
Or are you going to claim there is no bad science?

"Note the .edu in the link."

WOW really?
Note: where are the missing links?

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#10222 Jan 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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A fossil is flawed? How so?
If you think all fossils have been creditable, you haven't even read much on science.

Besides, you're a fossil, and we all know you're flawed, lol.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#10223 Jan 4, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Does the rise of Islam concern you?
No, not in the slightest.
Are you worried about rising levels of atheism?
Absolutely!
Clearly you see atheism as the biggest threat to your mythology or you wouldn't be in here.
Khatru, I am concerned about Islam in connection with it's possible link to terrorism.

But since I don't believe in mythology, neither Islam nor atheism can negatively impact my belief whatsoever.

Does atheism “worry” me – no – why would it – or how could atheism be a threat to me or what I believe? If someone believes in fraudulent science, or no God (or god) or believes that there are 100 various gods, that doesn't jeopardize or diminish MY belief, lol.

I don't even know any atheists personally, or if I do, they “hid” it out of shame, as I have found from my research that many atheists do.

I feel sorry for atheists, even though it's human nature to get mad at them, because most of them are rude and obnoxious. When anyone is confronted with people who are rude and obnoxious, the human reaction is to respond the same way back to them, lol. I realize I've been rude to you, when I shouldn't be, since I'm not sure you can overcome your ignorance.

But there is a part of me that still admires you for commending Noah and his family so many times for their knowledge. I know, I've said that before, but I don't want you to ever forget it.

Anyway.........participation in this forum has convinced me that atheists have absolutely nothing going for themselves, nor does the mythological fraudulent science on which their faith is based.

Also, participation in this forum has been encouraging and uplifting, since it has caused me to research so many topics, including the explosive the growth of Christianity in China and many other countries around the globe. Actually, I was very surprised at the encouraging statistics on it, weren't you?

Consequently, I'm happy to reassure you that I have grown in my faith and belief of the Christian God since participating for the past 3 months in this forum. In fact, I would like to thank you for helping me in that growth.

Since: Nov 11

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#10224 Jan 4, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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God did not create the internet Dumbazz!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_I...
Without God, no one would be here to create the internet.

Scientists didn't “create” the internet.

The technology that brought us the internet was developed by contributions by people from all walks of life and thousands of occupations – not just scientists – particularly not biological scientists, which the majority of my posts have been about, lol.

So your previous posts were pointless and irrelevant.

Since: Nov 11

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#10225 Jan 4, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Evolution is an established fact ...
No, it really isn't. You're false statement is outdated.

I've posted resources on that; available for re-posting if you need to see them - let me know, lol.

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