Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11180 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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“There is no Truth in Faith”

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#10082 Jan 3, 2013
KJV wrote:
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"No matter what people say, knowledge and faith are mortal enemies and can not really exist in the same Universe together"
At first look your statement looks correct
Faith:
(1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof.
However having proof is not the same as knowledge of something. You may know someone who did something (that's knowledge) but have no proof of it to show others.
Upon closer examination your statement fails.
There is no truth in faith. You can "know" something with no proof and be completely wrong.

Harold Camping for example.
KJV

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#10083 Jan 3, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>Where did I say I am an atheist? I said I can prove the Bible God does not exist.
Oh WOW major statement there!!!!!

Please unveil you break through.
Show us the "PROOF" that the God of the Bible does not exist.

You know this is really proof that you're an idiot.
KJV

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#10084 Jan 3, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>Yah so? You've described the "Grand unification problem". There are many theories, all of them better supported by the evidence than th "Gawd doneit!!" conjecture. You've still got nothing.
Nope what I have is the item that was requested. So I posted it.
Oh

D O Y O U K N O W W H A T
M A T H I S?

Because math blows evolution and the Big Bang and spontaneous life generation right out of the water.

Mathematically none of those could have happened.

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#10085 Jan 3, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Oh WOW major statement there!!!!!
Please unveil you break through.
Show us the "PROOF" that the God of the Bible does not exist.
You know this is really proof that you're an idiot.
the burden of proof lies upon the lying idiot creationist who invented god to prove that he exists.

In the real world which you and I inhabit, there's no such thing as god.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#10086 Jan 3, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Oh WOW major statement there!!!!!
Please unveil you break through.
Show us the "PROOF" that the God of the Bible does not exist.
You know this is really proof that you're an idiot.
Let's start with the "Facts" your Bible Claims;
1. God is omnipotent
2. God is omniscient
3. God is omnipresent
4. God has a message for all people.

That's what your bible claims right?

OK, so why couldn't your God write down this message himself or otherwise leave a message where all can find it?
There are only a few possibilities to consider;

1. He didn't know how.=> He's not God.
2. He wasn't powerful enough.=> He's not God.
3. He did but someone hid it.=> God doesn't know where it is, could not have known it would be hidden => He's not God.
4. He did but someone destroyed it.=> God didn't know that would happen and could not prevent it => He's not God.
5. He did but man is too limited to understand the message => God didn't make his creatures so they would understand his message AND he didn't write his message so his creatures could understand it => He's not God.
6. God doesn't really have a message for all humans => The bible is completely wrong and does not describe God properly i.e. The God described in the bible does not exist.

There, ONCE AGAIN!! Solid Proof the God described in the Bible does not exist.

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#10087 Jan 3, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Nope what I have is the item that was requested. So I posted it.
Oh
D O Y O U K N O W W H A T
M A T H I S?
Because math blows evolution and the Big Bang and spontaneous life generation right out of the water.
Mathematically none of those could have happened.
you need to prove your god before you criticize science. that's the rules.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#10088 Jan 3, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Nope what I have is the item that was requested. So I posted it.
Oh
D O Y O U K N O W W H A T
M A T H I S?
Because math blows evolution and the Big Bang and spontaneous life generation right out of the water.
Mathematically none of those could have happened.
This is where you claim to be an expert in probability and statistics .... right?

Guys like you always get one major concept wrong ....

What are the odds a Jupiter sized world could come crashing through our solar system disrupting the planets and killing us all?

I can tell you it is infinitesimally small, but not zero probability... it hasn't happened in 4,500,000,000 years.

What are the odds a Mars sized planet could crash directly into the earth splintering it in to two pieces?

The probability of this happening is 1 ... certainty!!!.... It has already happened!!

So what are the "odds" of the Big Bang, Evolution and life taking hold on this formerly sterile planet?

Certainty!! It has already happened!! Deal with it!!!
KJV

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#10089 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>There was a typo there, if scientists wanted to be fraudulent, they wouldn't publicly announce the frauds they discover.

If a bank robber didn't want to rob a bank, would they turn in others that do? Human nature says yes.
Ah ok. I hate that when that happens.
KJV

United States

#10090 Jan 3, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>"...If a bank robber didn't want to rob a bank..."

Wait!! What?!?
Give it up. You'll never catch up.

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#10091 Jan 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Every single scientific fraud that you posted was exposed by the scientific method and disgraced by the scientific community. No one else has exposed the fraud. So your own evidence, your own links, your own sources, all of them, simply prove you wrong.
Your post is blatantly false to the point of being hilarious.

Much of fraudulent science is discovered when bad things happen to people from bad medications, and attorneys get involved with litigation. The trials that follow bring out the truth.

Our government issues grants to scientists, and loses a significant amount of money when scientists abuse the system.

Our government spends an average of $525,000 per case investigating fraudulent science. I have already posted many links backing up these statements, yet you continue to defend science fraud.

You have let the forum down and been a big disappointment to all of us, since you have failed to support your own statements with anything credible. You simply make unsupported blanket “cop-out”, off the wall remarks with no backing.

You are not a worthy contributor to the forum.

I will be posting some more links today describing how the “self correcting” of science has failed us.

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#10092 Jan 3, 2013
Adam wrote:
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I some religious nut approached you and said "I am the son of God, believe in me and you will have eternal life. Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you will have no life in you." What would be your reaction?
Thank you for confirming what I previously posted - that you know nothing about Christianity.
KJV

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#10093 Jan 3, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, there you are.

Are you going to tell us why you admit that the Bible isn't perfect?
Are you going to explain what went wrong with you? Get dropped on your head at a young age? I guess that would not be too long ago in your case.

Go back to your comic books.

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#10094 Jan 3, 2013
RHill wrote:
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I'm sharing a supposition based upon observation and personal experience. Given my weight in the community, I would think this would be far more convincing than a mere "link". I can certainly testify that during my entire period of religious indoctrination, I was miserable and inattentivie. Since I know that I am in no way "special" it should be safe to presume that many millions of my fellow indoctrinatees were likewise miserable and inattentive.
Sharing it with me?

Well, that's thoughtful of you, Hill, but I don't have any interest in suppositions and presumptions. That's what the theory of evolution is based on, lol.

I'm sorry you were a miserable person. Sounds like you still are.

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#10095 Jan 3, 2013
RHill wrote:
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Wise men have pointed out to me that TRUST is the "faith" analog in Science. Scientists trust their instruments, trust their co-workers and trust the Scientific Method to weed out error. Very occasionally, the trust is misplaced, to the apparent delight of you godbots. Of course, the analogy breaks down as scientists have very good reason to trust these things, whereas godbots have no basis for their "faith".
No matter what people say, knowledge and faith are mortal enemies and can not really exist in the same Universe together. When you "know" something, faith is unnecessary. You can only have "faith" in something that does not exist, proof or knowledge of that thing is impossible. That's why anti-knowledge or misinformation, such as your Creationism and anti-evolution, anti-science poses are brandished about ... you got nothing else.
If your god existed, you could all pray and "wish us into the corn field" but he don't and you can't. Yeah, I watched the Twilight Zone Marathon again ... what'd you do for New Year? Sacrifice a goat or something?
You sort of rambled, didn't you? Hitting the sauce today?
KJV

United States

#10096 Jan 3, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>"Universal Common Descent" as in all life on Earth came from the same microscopic parents if you go back far enough in time. Monkeys and Apes are our cousins.
I can only go back 6000 years, early then that there wasn't anything. No universe,no time, no space no DNA.
Just plan old nothing.

You can be a cousin with anything you wish. All of my cousins are human just like me. No apes here.

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#10097 Jan 3, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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I said I can prove the Bible God does not exist.
Why didn't you? What are you waiting for?

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#10098 Jan 3, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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You get your science from a religious website?
Oh, you wanted to see a fraudulent science website?

I don't use those – sorry.

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#10099 Jan 3, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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I can't diminish something that doesn't actually exist.
It's the same as trying to lessen your integrity.
How could YOU lessen your non-existent integrity?

Oh, yes, and tell us again about your “respect”, lol

And how is your hymn writing going lately?

“The worms burrow in and out of the eye sockets”.......

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#10100 Jan 3, 2013
The included link is a report from December 20, 2012, on the myth that science is “self correcting”.

Data falsified, questionable research, etc.

Tilburg University published their report,“Flawed Science”(lol).

Science evan managed to find “significant” significant evidence for the laughable hypothesis that listening to a Beatles music could make you years younger. LMAO

What did scientists do about the report? Were they concerned? No....they fought back.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/201...

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#10101 Jan 3, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Or this one:
"BRIAN GREENE: It's a little known secret but for more than half a century a dark cloud has been looming over modern science. Here's the problem: our understanding of the universe is based on two separate theories. One is Einstein's general theory of relativity—that's a way of understanding the biggest things in the universe, things like stars and galaxies. But the littlest things in the universe, atoms and subatomic particles, play by an entirely different set of rules called, "quantum Mechanics"
These two sets of rules are each incredibly accurate in their own domain but whenever we try to combine them, to solve some of the deepest mysteries in the universe, disaster strikes.
Take the beginning of the universe, the "big bang." At that instant a tiny nugget erupted violently. Over the next 14 billion years the universe expanded and cooled into the stars, galaxies and planets we see today. But if we run the cosmic film in reverse, everything that's now rushing apart comes back together, so the universe gets smaller, hotter and denser as we head back to the beginning of time.
As we reach the big bang, when the universe was both enormously heavy and incredibly tiny, our projector jams. Our two laws of physics, when combined, break down."
Thank you for that post, KJV......

Tell Langoliers hello.....and keep up your good work.

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