Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11177 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

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#9838 Jan 1, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Such wit. I certainly can't expect to keep up with that.
Does it pain you so much that science is far from perfect?
And the Bible is perfect?
Bats are birds according to your bible. If that's perfect to you, you have very poor standards.

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#9839 Jan 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, even stupid people have websites, even people as stupid as you are.
I have no websites, but Richard Dawkins does. I looked at it, and and I see what you mean about stupid; lol.

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#9840 Jan 1, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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This is a discussion forum. It hardly qualifies as one of the deeper happinesses of life. But it is a nice diversion and I do learn things here.
Right, atheism and this forum don't bring the deeper happiness you're trying to find.

But I'm glad you're learning – at least you're making a start.

I was happy to teach you. Thanks.

Happy New Year!

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#9841 Jan 1, 2013
What about corrupt scientists who steal laboratory results and share confidential findings with foreign countries?

Traitors? Espionage? Selling us out?

Should we just spank their hands?

No, I'm afraid they will receive far more recognition than that, lol. The government expects this should be taken very seriously. Jianyu Huang was arrested for doing just such a thing.

LOL – not only a corrupt scientist, but a petty thief too; Mr. Huang reportedly stole laptops and other computer equipment as well.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11125493...

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#9842 Jan 1, 2013
Let's look at some more of the blatant lies atheists tell.

For one thing, they falsely declare that religion is evil. One example filled with such lies is Richard Dawkin's book,“The God Delusion”.

Even though modern science developed in the Christian west, atheists allege Chritianity is the enemy of science. That's false, also. The first scientists were Christians: Kepler, Galileo, Newton, Copernicus, Pascal, Pasteur, Farady, and Mendel – and others - contributed enormously to science.

Atheists also try to tell you that the Church persecuted scientists. The included link explains the falsity of that lie. The account of Galileo is very enlightening. Atheists need to read it and learn from it.

Actually, it was atheist political regimes who persecuted scientists, which is also explained in the link.

If only scientists knew what the Bible knew 2000 years ago. Yet, in all the time science has been researching our origins, they still provide us with the wrong answers.

And that's where the lies are – in science.

http://www.charliewstarr.com/Lookout/Christia...

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#9843 Jan 1, 2013
It was in the news where a Christian group defended an 89 year old atheist's right to display a sign in his window which claimed religion was a “fairy tale”.

Would atheists defend Christians if Christians displayed signs saying science was based on fraud and fairy tales?

http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-g...

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#9844 Jan 1, 2013
If Shirley had worn an ordinary secular necklace, would these groups have been concerned about the health and safety to patients?

... or were they just concerned about the cross?

Hmmmm..........

Why are they afraid of the cross if it's not real?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12613...

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#9845 Jan 1, 2013
Do you support the United States Constitution and freedom of speech?

Then don't go to Britain, because if you own a business there, you cannot display Bible verses on your television screen.

The Huffington post link included explains.

When I saw this, I immediately thought of our own little Khatru and how he / she (?) is so favorable to the U.S. Constitution, and wants to protect it.

Khatru – hi, are you there? Do you enjoy free speech in Britain?

Oh, well I guess so – it's probably ok as long as only atheists have it, lol.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/tom-j-wilson/...

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#9846 Jan 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Bats are birds according to your bible. If that's perfect to you, you have very poor standards.
Maybe this will help you raise your standards, Kitten:

http://www.tektonics.org/af/batbird.html

You need to study your Bible instead of letting it gather dust sitting on the shelf, lol.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9847 Jan 1, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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Maybe this will help you raise your standards, Kitten:
http://www.tektonics.org/af/batbird.html
You need to study your Bible instead of letting it gather dust sitting on the shelf, lol.
Apologetics. "It didn't mean that, it was just interpreted wrong."

Try to come up with something that's actually a logical reason for the error ... oh wait, it would still be an error, duh.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9848 Jan 1, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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I have no websites, but Richard Dawkins does. I looked at it, and and I see what you mean about stupid; lol.
So ... you haven't actually seen his site. Good to know.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#9849 Jan 1, 2013
derek4 wrote:
re-posting a famous quote:
“Belief in evolution makes atheists of people. One can have a religious view that is compatible with evolution only if that religious view is indistinguishable from atheism."
William Provine, Professor at Cornell University
Thank you Mr. Provine for expressing your thoughts, and we agree with them.
Yeah.

Belief in Evolution = Understanding Natural World

Understanding Natural World = Grasping Reality

Grasping Reality = Atheism

I can see that.

You really demonstrate the depth of human gullibility when you embrace the fruits of a scientific/technological civilization, handed to you on a silver platter by the scarred and calloused hand of Science and then reject and mock some of her most basic, well established tenets. It makes you appear as children, scampering and tittering through life, never really growing up. I mean, what's up with that? You've got to respect the Amish, who see the hypocrisy in modern religion and try to reject the "evils" of technology.

Let's see ... science has given you your home, your health, your clothes, your transportation, your comforts, your food, your security ... if science were a god, particularly one as petty as the one you worship, you'd be bob'n for turds in a cesspool in the deepest recesses of hell right now.

Lucky for all of us, Science is not a God that created us to be worshiped, but rather a tool we created to observe and understand the world we live in. It works really well.

Reminds me of a couple old sayings ...

"You can lead a Godbot to Reason, but you can't make them drink!"

or

"If you took a stroll through the Waters of Knowledge in most Godbots minds, you'd scarcely get your feet wet".

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#9850 Jan 1, 2013
derek4 wrote:
It was in the news where a Christian group defended an 89 year old atheist's right to display a sign in his window which claimed religion was a “fairy tale”.
Would atheists defend Christians if Christians displayed signs saying science was based on fraud and fairy tales?
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-g...
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LOL

We do it everyday!! Every moment of our lives is spent "tolerating" you weirdos. Atheist policemen, firemen, soldiers and sailors all dedicate themselves to defending your rights to be ignorant.

You drag a Godbot out into the cleansing light of Reason and they go up in a foul puff of smoke, like a vampire caught in the sun. It's sad really.

LET US HELP YOU!!!

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#9851 Jan 1, 2013
Sorry. That should have been:

"You can lead a Godbot to Reason, but you can't make them THINK"!!!

Dang. First mistake of the New Year.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9852 Jan 1, 2013
derek4 wrote:
It was in the news where a Christian group defended an 89 year old atheist's right to display a sign in his window which claimed religion was a “fairy tale”.
Would atheists defend Christians if Christians displayed signs saying science was based on fraud and fairy tales?
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-g...
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Displayed in their own windows?

I , personally, would have no problem whatsoever with it.

And I would argue against anybody, atheist or otherwise, who did.

“Think&Care”

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#9853 Jan 1, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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Right, atheism and this forum don't bring the deeper happiness you're trying to find.
I get deeper happiness in other ways, yes. If *your* happiness is obtained by spamming this forum, you are incredibly shallow.
But I'm glad you're learning – at least you're making a start.
I was happy to teach you. Thanks.
Happy New Year!
Hippy Gnu's Ear!

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#9854 Jan 1, 2013
derek4 wrote:
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I have no websites, but Richard Dawkins does. I looked at it, and and I see what you mean about stupid; lol.
You're just another hapless creationist spammer with no proof of god, trying and failing to attack atheists and scientists.

The same scientists that let you type on the internet and spread your ridiculous creationist propoganda.

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#9855 Jan 1, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Such wit. I certainly can't expect to keep up with that.
Does it pain you so much that science is far from perfect?
And the Bible is perfect?
I believe we have today uncovered a new depth to the sad delusion and mental illness that is creationism.

Get help folks, see your local doctor.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#9856 Jan 1, 2013
RHill wrote:
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I think that date is in Earth-Condenses-out-of-Gaseous -Nebula-Before-Christ format.
Oops! You're right.

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#9857 Jan 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Apologetics. "It didn't mean that, it was just interpreted wrong."
Try to come up with something that's actually a logical reason for the error ... oh wait, it would still be an error, duh.
Keep your day job, Kitten. You fail as a Bible scholar, and you offered us zero, just like every other time.

How embarrassing for you.

LMAO

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