Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11178 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Star Press.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

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#9655 Dec 29, 2012
KJV wrote:
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You think Cannibalism is ok if the majority of the tribe says it's ok.
"Do you believe that enjoyment, love and fun is all there is to life? If so, why should a child molester be denied his enjoyment and fun even if it is at the expense of others? If morals are in fact subjective, who are you to tell him that he is wrong given the subjective standard he has adopted?
Do you believe that man evolved? If so, is it not true that man also evolved a mechanism to kill his enemies, to spread his sexual seed via rape (which happens in the animal kingdom), to abide by natural selection? If so, is rape truly wrong seeing that it is just insuring the propagation of the human race AND BY WHAT STANDARD IS IT WRONG? Was Hitler truly wrong by killing 6 million Jews that he deemed to be slowing down the progression of the evolution of the human race? After all, these are tools of natural selection, are they not? Also, spontaneous generation has been disproven, so how do you account for non-life begetting life?
If man did in fact evolve, and there is nothing outside of the material universe, then there cannot be free will and free choice, can there? Meaning, if the material universe is all there is, then there is no such thing as an immaterial object; hence there can be no such thing as a law of thought, logic and morality. The result of this is that you do not have free will; you do not think freely; the reasons that you are stating this very thing is because your brain chemicals are forcing you to say such a thing. Why should I trust your brain chemicals over my brain chemicals? Why do you believe what you are stating if you cannot help what you are stating because it is simply an electro-chemical reaction? This once again leads us to ask the question; is truly wrong for a child molester to prey upon his victims? If so, what standard are you appealing to? My standard is the Bible, the very words of God Himself. My standard is a priori (apart form self) and objective. What is yours?"
Strawman.

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#9656 Dec 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Do you have anything that isn't a fallacy to say? not linguine, but ... you know ... your own words or something? An original thought? Anything that offers us evidence that you are not a bot?
LOL - They were all my own words except the link which explains that Dr. Dipak Das allegedly falsified scientific data more than 100 times.

It's interesting that you don't find that disturbing. Why would you support something you know to be false? Don't you want the truth to be known?

How can we know what science we can believe when there are so many like Dr. Das who are publishing false information, and there are people like you who support his work?

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#9657 Dec 29, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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I gauge the successes of science by it's ability at explaining our reality.
That's real and tangible truths.
Not the superstitious mumbo jumbo we get from religion.
I agree that there are certain religions that contain mumbo jumbo (I love that description).

That's why I believe in Christianity, which is the truth.

What about the mumbo jumbo we get from fraudulent science?

You're okay with that?

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#9658 Dec 29, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Try posting something that's not biased and people may actually read it.
The Bible won't fit into one post.

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#9659 Dec 29, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Can't help but notice you've taken to adding the above rider.
You've been warned! LOL
I will be happy to address your observation, Khatru.

Since there are atheist posters to the forum who do not want to see material about fraudulent science (because the truth about it makes them uncomfortable) and they have the idea they can be winners if they eliminate any dissenting view (which doesn't make them winners) they chose to announce to the forum that my posts should be reported.

I believe you are already aware of this, since you have been reading the forum on a regular basis, so you haven't made some new and brilliant discovery.

As I commented previously, anyone has the right to report posts, so whatever they want to do - that's fine. I do not need to copy and paste material directly from any link. However, their efforts to suppress the truth will not succeed. I will describe the content in my own words, and provide the link, rather than copying the content directly. This won't please atheists who want to hide scientific fraud, but it isn't my goal to please atheists, lol.

In the meanwhile, I will make a practice of reporting all posts that contain inappropriate language and all posts considered abusive, which is only reasonable. However, I may not notify the forum when and / or which posts I report.

And, In reference to your post 9609, unlike you, I don't consider abusive posts with inappropriate language as “nothing at all”(your words). I do realize, however, that you consider any post from one of your fellow atheists as okay, while you would support them in “reporting” the opposing view. This is quite typical of your kind of justice and morality, and confirms that you, like the others, feel that winning is by dictating your beliefs through suppressing the voice of your opponent. You, like them, want the truth hidden; erased from public view, just like the fraudulent scientists I've posted about. That, my friend, is not winning. It's losing.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#9660 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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I agree that there are certain religions that contain mumbo jumbo (I love that description).
That's why I believe in Christianity, which is the truth.
What about the mumbo jumbo we get from fraudulent science?
You're okay with that?
So you believe Christianity because our Creator did such a horrid job that he had to kill himself to set it all straight ... or at least so that he could forgive himself and us.

What were you saying about "mumbo jumbo"??

And again, the correction of the scientific data is coming from the scientific community, not the religious community.

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#9661 Dec 29, 2012
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Your religion has been around for nearly 2000 years and it still hasn't fixed Leviticus 14 .... it's a real hoot!!
So you're a Bible believer except for one chapter in Leviticus?

You know, I think all of us have some passages we have questions about, but when we study the Bible, we can find the answers to most legitimate concerns.

I would suggest that you read a Bible commentary on that passage to help you understand it and that should help you clear up any misconceptions you may have about it.

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#9662 Dec 29, 2012
The included link describes “Atheism” as the “No God” religion. Even though atheism isn't ordinarily thought of as a religion, it actually is.

Atheism is a faith of it's own.

Atheists have certain “Tenets of Faith.”

And don't forget “The Atheists' Creed”...

Atheism is an ideology that is bleak and hopeless.

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/153...

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#9664 Dec 29, 2012
Have you ever noticed how atheists focus in on Christians, and try to dictate their beliefs to Christians?

Funny how atheists don't seem too concerned about other religions.

That's because they recognize Christianity as the one true religion.

Thank you, atheists, for your failure to dictate your beliefs to Christians, and for confirming to us that you recognize the one true God of the Bible.

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#9665 Dec 29, 2012
Atheists attack community landmarks.

Why?

In order to dictate their beliefs.

http://news.yahoo.com/atheist-attacks-communi...

Atheists keep trying, but they keep failing.

The majority rules and will not allow atheists to dictate their beliefs.

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“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#9666 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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So you're a Bible believer except for one chapter in Leviticus?
You know, I think all of us have some passages we have questions about, but when we study the Bible, we can find the answers to most legitimate concerns.
I would suggest that you read a Bible commentary on that passage to help you understand it and that should help you clear up any misconceptions you may have about it.
Well that's quite the idiotic conclusion!! Congratulations! I haven't seen anyone be that stupid in a long time!!

There is quite a lot more about the buy bull that doesn't add up;

http://www.deusdiapente.net/science/gospels.p...
http://www.evilbible.com
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#9667 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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The Bible won't fit into one post.
It could if you knew what you were doing.
http://www.blueletterbible.org

But you don't, so I'll help. The link provided is very searchable, so be careful what you claim it says.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#9668 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Have you ever noticed how atheists focus in on Christians, and try to dictate their beliefs to Christians?
Funny how atheists don't seem too concerned about other religions.
That's because they recognize Christianity as the one true religion.
Thank you, atheists, for your failure to dictate your beliefs to Christians, and for confirming to us that you recognize the one true God of the Bible.
That's because it makes the stupid claim of being the "one True Religion".

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9669 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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LOL - They were all my own words except the link which explains that Dr. Dipak Das allegedly falsified scientific data more than 100 times.
It's interesting that you don't find that disturbing. Why would you support something you know to be false? Don't you want the truth to be known?
How can we know what science we can believe when there are so many like Dr. Das who are publishing false information, and there are people like you who support his work?
The scientific method has demonstrated the capability of weeding out crackpots and liars very well, if it didn't, you'd have nothing to post. Dipak is disturbing, he lied and placed people's health at risk just for profit, then when called out on it he used that publicity to create a pyramid scheme as well. But the scientific community outed him, not a religion. Religion does the opposite, it hides, even to the point of evading the law, people who commit atrocities all the time. Religion offers psychopaths refuge, and an excuse as well as alibi to murder. Notice how you don't post anything about the Evangelist and their "faith healing" which has never healed anyone, or how you avoid John Edwards and his "ESP" junk. Your agenda isn't to learn, nor do you care about reality, your agenda is to discredit something that has probably discovered, and outed, a scam you were trying to pull. So out of pure spite you target the same method that outed you by only demonstrating that method is self correcting. You are a miserable failure of a human being, like all snake oil salesmen.

Who was it? Did James Randi demonstrate you were a fraudulent "psychic?" Or did you have your paper on "dream magic" rejected by the scientific community because it was nothing more than conjecture? Perhaps your attempts to "discover" psychic phenomenon by subjecting humans to potent hallucinogenics was was rejected and thus getting you banned from anything resembling a test subject in the US?

You cannot blame the people who discovered, and then rejected, your insanity just because you failed to pull the wool over their eyes.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9670 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Atheists attack community landmarks.
Why?
In order to dictate their beliefs.
http://news.yahoo.com/atheist-attacks-communi...
Atheists keep trying, but they keep failing.
The majority rules and will not allow atheists to dictate their beliefs.
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Hmm .. this could be interesting ... wait ... erm ...

No, it's just a misleading title. So, mocking someone's beliefs is a crime ... but only if it's your beliefs and not anyone, like say, Muslims? Your hypocrisy is showing, for all the world to see. Bet you wish you could delete your own posts now, huh?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9671 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Have you ever noticed how atheists focus in on Christians, and try to dictate their beliefs to Christians?
Funny how atheists don't seem too concerned about other religions.
That's because they recognize Christianity as the one true religion.
Thank you, atheists, for your failure to dictate your beliefs to Christians, and for confirming to us that you recognize the one true God of the Bible.
Tell me, what other religious group in the US is trying to stop equality.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9672 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
The included link describes “Atheism” as the “No God” religion. Even though atheism isn't ordinarily thought of as a religion, it actually is.
Atheism is a faith of it's own.
Atheists have certain “Tenets of Faith.”
And don't forget “The Atheists' Creed”...
Atheism is an ideology that is bleak and hopeless.
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/153...
No copyrighted material was reproduced in this post.
More assertions that contradict reality in such an extreme way as to almost be funny. Are you a Poe? You have to be a Poe.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9673 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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The Bible won't fit into one post.
He asked for something not biased.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9674 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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I agree that there are certain religions that contain mumbo jumbo (I love that description).
That's why I believe in Christianity, which is the truth.
What about the mumbo jumbo we get from fraudulent science?
You're okay with that?
Okay, so the religion you choose to believe isn't mumbo jumbo, but all the others are? How do you explain that hypocrisy?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#9675 Dec 29, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Have you ever noticed how atheists focus in on Christians, and try to dictate their beliefs to Christians?
Funny how atheists don't seem too concerned about other religions.
That's because they recognize Christianity as the one true religion.
Thank you, atheists, for your failure to dictate your beliefs to Christians, and for confirming to us that you recognize the one true God of the Bible.
No, it is simply that Christianity is the dominant religion where most of us live. I am more than happy to point out the many flaws in Islam or Judaism also, but most of the fundamentalists I have to deal with are Christian, not Islamic or Jewish.

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