Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11180 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9529 Dec 28, 2012
EmpAtheist wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you... i think i might be the only atheist in here who isn't an astronomer though... i feel small. Lol
I'll be the guy standing in the background who jumps in randomly
Pft. I know less about cosmology, biology, and physics than most other atheists on here. I do know sociology, psychology, computer technology, and chemistry, but that's the extent of my in depth studies. So don't feel left out, everyone has something to offer.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9530 Dec 28, 2012
EmpAtheist wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you... i think i might be the only atheist in here who isn't an astronomer though... i feel small. Lol

I'll be the guy standing in the background who jumps in randomly
By all means.

Jump at will.
KJV

United States

#9531 Dec 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>What?

You don't like the word "hallucinating"?

Sensitive f*ck, aren't you.
Nope lots of people don't like profanity.
Of course you being an atheist and believe we all mutated to pie current level you little chemical firing off in your brain can't be expected to understand another human life form with just random spurts brain activity.

Of course I don't believe like you. I believe we were all created and our brains are not random chemical reactions. And that humans should be held accountable.
KJV

United States

#9532 Dec 28, 2012
EmpAtheist wrote:
Wow
You have that upside down.
KJV

United States

#9533 Dec 28, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>Look back thru the forum, Hill, and see who made remarks about reporting me. I wasn't the one to report other posters, until they reported my posts.

And to everyone: I will summarize copyrighted material in my own words and provide the links. It is not necessary that I copy and paste the material. But the points will still be made, and the links will still be provided.

And I will report any post considered abusive. I may or may not post notice to the forum which posts I have reported to Topix.
Yes their report you and then yell when you return the favor. Sounds like an atheist to me!
KJV

United States

#9534 Dec 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>What?
Not.
KJV

United States

#9535 Dec 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>This guy is amazing.
You are both simply wrong.
Well no not Batty I guess, I am amazing.

Thanks.
KJV

United States

#9536 Dec 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Have you EVER read a book on astronomy?

Ever?
Have you seen the DVD? The whole thing or as Usual just try and rip apart what you can't understand. The Computer program shows in great detail how the star of Bethlehem really did everything the Bible states it did.

Fits like a Glove.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9537 Dec 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>Nope lots of people don't like profanity.
Of course you being an atheist and believe we all mutated to pie current level you little chemical firing off in your brain can't be expected to understand another human life form with just random spurts brain activity.

Of course I don't believe like you. I believe we were all created and our brains are not random chemical reactions. And that humans should be held accountable.
What?
KJV

United States

#9538 Dec 28, 2012
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Ruse.
Yes

"derek4 wrote:
The below link is from Michael Ruse, atheist, authot, and philsopher of biology at Florida State University. In his conclusion, he makes the point of the damage atheists are doing in fighting to keep creationism out of public schools. He goes on to explain that the first ammendment doesn't ban teaching science in schools – but if atheists get it established that Creationism is SCIENCE rather than religion, then they are creating a problem for themselves which will work against them.
Also, he explains that if teaching that God exists is a religion, then it's also a religion to teach God does not exist.
He sees P.Z. Myers as a “disaster”, lol.
He also says that “The God Delusion”(book) made him “ashamed” to be an atheist.
Thank you, Mr. Ruse.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/scienceandthesacred...
Statements in this post were authored by the poster and are not copyrighted material."
KJV

United States

#9539 Dec 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Uh...

Yeah.

If that's what you're going for.
Always!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9540 Dec 28, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>If I was all alone on a road 500 miles from any other human and my car broke down, and you stopped to offer help, I would decline.
And THAT is just how stupid you are.
KJV

United States

#9541 Dec 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Doesn't offend me.

I, though, as an atheist, understand that not everybody is Christian.

I also understand that Christians get very offended by any public display that dares to refute their (your) ridiculous beliefs.
I can't speak for all Christians but I know I don't get offended. Stupid ness cannot offend intelligentsia.

The odds of us be here from an exploding singularity and spontaneous life generation is simple impossible.

KJV

United States

#9542 Dec 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Planets were thought to be wandering (not wondering) stars before they were known to be planets.

Though planets will demonstrate retrograde motion, that is an illusion caused by our changing line of sight against the much more distant stars.

Planets don't stop orbiting and the earth doesn't stop rotating.

There is only one area above earth where an object will appear to remain motionless, and that is directly above the equator. That is where our geostationary satellites are parked at about 23,000 miles above the surface.

Circumpolar stars, stars near the north or South Pole and depending on your latitude, never rise or set, but appear to describe circles in the sky.

Other that the circumpolar stars (and there are no circumpolar planets), EVERYTHING rises and sets during the course of a 24 hour day.(This excludes the polar regions where, during the summer the sun appears to travel AROUND the horizon, never setting. Same for the stars in the winter seasons.)

Recently I've been watching, over the course of several weeks, Jupiter's progress as it gets nearer Taurus' head.

The other night, I had the pleasure to observe the moon's motion over the course of a few hours as it came in very close conjunction with Jupiter.

The night sky is a fascinating place.

You should learn about it sometime.
"Planets were thought to be wandering (not wondering) stars before they were known to be planets. "

No as soon as the word Planet was assigned to them they were calling the Wandering Stars that is what the word meant. Many years later science changed the meaning of the word that was used to label all the wandering stars.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9543 Dec 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>Prove that you're not a gutless coward.
Have you ever put your life in harms way to help anyone?

No didn't think so.
I've only been in that position once that I can think of.

And I didn't hesitate.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9544 Dec 28, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry you're having a bad day. Maybe it's your unbelief.
Not a bad day at all.

Maybe it's my unbelief.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9545 Dec 28, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>Reporting post to moderators.
GFY

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#9546 Dec 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't speak for all Christians but I know I don't get offended. Stupid ness cannot offend intelligentsia.
The odds of us be here from an exploding singularity and spontaneous life generation is simple impossible.
What about your background, do you think enables you to calculate odds (and probabilities) accurately?
KJV

United States

#9547 Dec 28, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>That's a perfect point. Also, the message of the Bible when speaking of the star, was not intended to be a science lesson.
Yet as you see batty can't figure that out.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9548 Dec 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>You think Cannibalism is ok if the majority of the tribe says it's ok.

"Do you believe that “enjoyment, love and fun” is all there is to life? If so, why should a child molester be denied “his enjoyment and fun” even if it is at the expense of others? If morals are in fact subjective, who are you to tell him that he is wrong given the “subjective standard” he has adopted?

Do you believe that man evolved? If so, is it not true that man also evolved a mechanism to kill his enemies, to spread his sexual seed via rape (which happens in the animal kingdom), to abide by natural selection? If so, is rape truly wrong seeing that it is just insuring the propagation of the human race AND BY WHAT STANDARD IS IT WRONG? Was Hitler truly wrong by killing 6 million Jews that he deemed to be slowing down the progression of the evolution of the human race? After all, these are tools of natural selection, are they not? Also, spontaneous generation has been disproven, so how do you account for non-life begetting life?

If man did in fact evolve, and there is nothing outside of the material universe, then there cannot be free will and free choice, can there? Meaning, if the material universe is all there is, then there is no such thing as an immaterial object; hence there can be no such thing as a law of thought, logic and morality. The result of this is that you do not have free will; you do not think freely; the reasons that you are stating this very thing is because your brain chemicals are forcing you to say such a thing. Why should I trust your brain chemicals over my brain chemicals? Why do you believe what you are stating if you cannot help what you are stating because it is simply an electro-chemical reaction? This once again leads us to ask the question; is truly wrong for a child molester to prey upon his victims? If so, what standard are you appealing to? My standard is the Bible, the very words of God Himself. My standard is “a priori”(apart form self) and objective. What is yours?"
Is the bible your only standard?

Are you saying that if the bible were one day proved false, even to you (I know. Not possible. But if...) that you would immediately respond to your urge to molest children?

Is that all that's stopping you?

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