Don't dictate beliefs

Sep 5, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Star Press

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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We can blame (or thank) Noah Webster for the differences between American spellings and those of the rest of the world. When compiling his first American dictionary, he arbitrarily decided to simplify some spellings. Since his dictionaries were the most widely distributed in the U.S., those spellings became standard here. Personally, I think he should have left well enough alone, but others may think otherwise with no argument from me.
Webster, as a devout Christian, also had strong feelings about atheists, which he also incorporated into his dictionaries, and since much of society agreed with him at the time, his departure from more modern standards of lexicography went unchallenged during his lifetime. But the definitions in Webster dictionaries remain biased to this day and should be discounted by all thinking lexicographers and fans of the English language in general. Just as Judaism is better defined by Jewish scholars than by Nazis or skinheads, Catholicism by the Vatican than by the KKK, and Islam by mujtahids than by rednecks, atheism is best defined by atheists themselves.
Webster was an amazing man who did much to encourage literacy and scholarship in the U.S. as it was developing as a distinct d culture, but, like most of us, he was far from perfect. He was very opinionated and did not hesitate to wield his considerable influence well past the point of wisdom. For better or worse, we're probably stuck with his spellings. But we don't have to carry his 19th century prejudices into the 21st.
Thanks for your mini essay. You know, you're always free to share your wisdom with the publishers of dictionaries, but posting your special gift of insight in the forum won't really do anything. Be sure to advise the publishers of your credentials so they can give sufficient consideration to your valuable input.

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The UK spelling is "plough", fucktard.
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You're always informative and pleasant. It's hard to find the words to express the value we place on your contributions to the forum.

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[“... when Archbishop Dr Rowan Williams suggested that Professor Darwin is often described as the world's most famous atheist, the geneticist responded:'Not by me'.”]

'I can't be sure God DOES NOT exist': World's most notorious atheist Richard Dawkins admits he is in fact agnostic

Professor Richard Dawkins today dismissed his hard-earned reputation as a militant atheist - admitting that he is actually agnostic as he can't prove God doesn't exist.

The country's foremost champion of the Darwinist evolution, who wrote The God Delusion, stunned audience members when he made the confession during a lively debate on the origins of the universe with the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Professor Dawkins, the former Oxford Professor for the Public Understanding of Science, is a dedicated admirer of Charles Darwin, regarding the Victorian pioneer of evolution as the man who explained ‘everything we know about life’.

But when Archbishop Dr Rowan Williams suggested that Professor Darwin is often described as the world's most famous atheist, the geneticist responded:'Not by me'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21058...

[The Dawkins Delusion]

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Popular Atheist Blogger Announces Conversion to Catholicism

“A well-known atheist blogger made a shocking announcement on Monday: after careful consideration, she has concluded that God exists and she has converted to Catholicism.

Previously, Leah Libresco maintained a blog on the Patheos blogging network's Atheist Portal. But on the day of her announcement her blog, which is now titled "Unequally Yoked: A geeky convert picks fights in good faith," moved to the network's Catholic Channel.
According to her blog post from Monday, as an atheist she couldn't fully explain where human's obtained their understanding of moral law, despite the many non-theistic theories that are out there. The day before Palm Sunday, she says, she got into a discussion with a Christian friend, who asked her what she believed was the source of moral law.
After some thought, she realized that morality comes from neither evolution nor philosophy, but from God.
"I believed that the Moral Law wasn't just a Platonic truth, abstract and distant," she wrote. "It turns out I actually believed it was some kind of Person, as well as Truth. And there was one religion that seemed like the most promising way to reach back to that living Truth. I asked my friend what he suggest we do now, and we prayed the night office of the Liturgy of the Hours together (I've kept up with that since)."
Libresco, who is currently enrolled in Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults (RCIA) classes at a parish in Washington D.C., also says she has been writing in a "crypto-Catholic style" on her blog for the last month and a half.
But believing in God is just the beginning for her, because she still questions the Church's view on certain issues, including its stance on homosexuality.
"This post isn't the final word on my conversion," she wrote. "I'm sure there's a lot more explaining and arguing to do, so be a little charitable in your read of this post and try to give me a little time to expand my ideas over the next few weeks."
A fellow Patheos Catholic Channel blogger, Thomas L. McDonald, says his journey to the faith was similar to Libresco's, and he also had some reservations about certain Christian teachings when he first became a believer.
"My advice to Leah would be: push and work through and reason, argue every point, but accept that there will always be limits to what you will be able to resolve...And some things will never be resolved, not this side of heaven. I have accepted that a few things will remain unknown and unknowable, and in doing so rendered everything else comprehensible. It was the best deal I ever made," wrote McDonald on his "God and the Machine" blog.
Since her announcement, Libresco has thanked those who have offered her support and says she is working to respond to the questions and comments of those who don't understand or are angry over her conversion. She appreciates "argumentative comments," she says, and is welcoming the opportunity to answer her critics.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/popular-ath...

[Great news, Leah – keep up the good work.]

[oops - the atheist percentage just dropped a bit, lol.]

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Nietzsche's passionate atheism was the making of me

“Nietzsche's pious lack of faith led to my own conversion to Christianity”

“Nietzsche's case against Christianity was that it kept people down; that it smothered them with morality and self-loathing. His ideal human is one who is free to express himself (yes, he's sexist), like a great artist or a Viking warrior. Morality is for the little people. It's the way the weak manipulate the strong. The people Nietzsche most admired and aspired to be like were those who were able to reinvent themselves through some tremendous act of will.

I have never seen anything to admire in Nietzsche's view of morality or immorality. He was badly interpreted by the Nazis. But his ethics, if one can call them that, are founded on the admiration of power as the ultimate form of abundant creativity. His hatred of Christianity comes mostly from his hatred of renunciation and the promotion of selflessness. Jesus was a genius for having the imaginative power to reinvent Judaism but a dangerous idiot for basing this reinvention on the idea that there is virtue to be had in weakness. The weak, Nietzsche insists, are nasty and cruel. They take out their frustration on those who have the power of genuine self-expression.

It may seem perverse but it was Nietzsche who was partly responsible for my own conversion to Christianity. As a philosophy student in the 1980s, I had served my time with the analytic tradition and its logic-chopping ways. Like many students, I was expecting something more from philosophy than an ability to break down "the cat sat on the mat" into its semantic parts or wading through dreary and unconvincing proofs about the existence of God. I wanted the excitement of big ideas. Marx did it for a while. But my own public school version of revolutionary communism was inevitably a brittle thing, despite its evangelical fervour.

As radical socialism collapsed around my ears, Nietzsche invaded my consciousness with a whole range of new and exciting questions. I took the anti-God line entirely for granted. As a good communist, atheism had always been my unexamined default position. And because Nietzsche was so passionate an atheist, I had my defences down to his unusually intense religiosity and elliptical desire for salvation. Which, I suppose, is how the question of God crept under my intellectual radar.

Nietzsche hated Christianity with all the intensity of someone who had once been caught up in its workings, but he would have equally loathed the high priests of new atheism and their overwhelming sense of intellectual superiority.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/...

[“he would have equally loathed the high priests of new atheism”] LMAO

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“Former Atheist and Dawkins Follower Becomes Christian”

“Former atheist Richard Morgan describes his journey to Christianity in a fascinating article at The Christian Post.”
http://www.toughquestionsanswered.org/2011/12...

[Wow - all these atheists being converted. What will happen to our atheist population? Their numbers are dropping. Sad, isn't it?]

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Born-Again Atheist Makes Gradual Return to Belief

“Former atheist A. N. Wilson has slowly emerged from the closet as a believer - again. The renowned journalist and biographer, who was raised in the church of England and who had once considered himself a believer, had a "conversion" to atheism 20 years ago at age 38...”

[But he has LEFT atheism now....found it had nothing to offer.]
http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/...

[Better late than never. Great news.]

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YOUR material?
That's a laugh.
And dishonest, too.
Not surprising.
While I recognize how much you value the material I posted, you shouldn't try to take credit for posting it yourself.....

I found it and posted it for you, lol.

But that's okay, I don't mind research fraudulent science for you.

LMAO
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Dawkins said this years before the Daily Mail BS.

I knew you had nothing new, bellend.
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[“... when Archbishop Dr Rowan Williams suggested that Professor Darwin is often described as the world's most famous atheist, the geneticist responded:'Not by me'.”]
'I can't be sure God DOES NOT exist': World's most notorious atheist Richard Dawkins admits he is in fact agnostic
Professor Richard Dawkins today dismissed his hard-earned reputation as a militant atheist - admitting that he is actually agnostic as he can't prove God doesn't exist.
The country's foremost champion of the Darwinist evolution, who wrote The God Delusion, stunned audience members when he made the confession during a lively debate on the origins of the universe with the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Professor Dawkins, the former Oxford Professor for the Public Understanding of Science, is a dedicated admirer of Charles Darwin, regarding the Victorian pioneer of evolution as the man who explained ‘everything we know about life’.
But when Archbishop Dr Rowan Williams suggested that Professor Darwin is often described as the world's most famous atheist, the geneticist responded:'Not by me'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21058...
[The Dawkins Delusion]
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The 2011 government Census for England and Wales reported over 6 million more non-believers in the UK alone in the last 10 years.

Have you got 1,800 new conversion posts, for England and Wales only, for each day, and every day for the last 10 years?

That's 12,600 new names every week, so get posting, christard!
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“Former Atheist and Dawkins Follower Becomes Christian”
“Former atheist Richard Morgan describes his journey to Christianity in a fascinating article at The Christian Post.”
http://www.toughquestionsanswered.org/2011/12...
[Wow - all these atheists being converted. What will happen to our atheist population? Their numbers are dropping. Sad, isn't it?]

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Dawkins said this years before the Daily Mail BS.
I knew you had nothing new, bellend.
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Thank you for enligtening us. Glad to know Mr. Dawkins isn't an atheist. It's hard to express my gratitude to you for your valued post.

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The 2011 government Census for England and Wales reported over 6 million more non-believers in the UK alone in the last 10 years.
Have you got 1,800 new conversion posts, for England and Wales only, for each day, and every day for the last 10 years?
That's 12,600 new names every week, so get posting, christard!
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Thanks for your help with those impressive statistics.

Study: Rising Religious Tide in China Overwhelms Atheist Doctrine

“One of the last great efforts at state-sponsored atheism is a failure.

And not just any kind of failure. China has enforced its anti-religion policy through decades of repression, coercion and persecution, but the lack of success is spectacular, according to a major new study.

No more than 15 percent of adults in the world's most populous country are "real atheists." 85 percent of the Chinese either hold some religious beliefs or practice some kind of religion, according to the Chinese Spiritual Life Survey.

Members of the Chinese Communist Party and Youth League are required to be atheists, yet 17 percent of them self-identified with a religion and 65 percent indicated they had engaged in religious practices in the last year, reported sociologist Fenggang Yang of Purdue University, a lead researcher in the project.

The notion of China as a secular nation with little or no religion is "silly," said sociologist Rodney Stark of Baylor University, another principal investigator.

"It's a pretty religious bunch of folks if you follow what they're doing," he said.

Continued to conclusion:

“... officials, he said, are not sure what to do. After the end of the Cultural Revolution, following 13 years of brutal measures taken to eliminate religion, some officials came to a realization "religion can't be stopped," Yang said.

Also mediating against further restrictions on religion is a lack of public support. There are few social pressures against faith, Yang said. In the spiritual life survey, less than a quarter of respondents agreed with the statement that "Christianity is a Western religion, hence it is not suitable for Chinese people."

In addition, political and economic changes allowing greater freedom also have created "sufficient social space" for the practice of religion, Yang said.

The Chinese government appears to have few options left to halt the growth of religion.

"This is a trend that is hard to stop," Yang said. "In fact, it is almost impossible to stop."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-briggs/st...

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Christianity taking over planet?

What is the fastest-growing religion on Earth?

“Most news reports suggest it is Islam.

But a new book makes a compelling case it is a new, or, perhaps, old form of biblically inspired evangelical Christianity that is sweeping through places like China, Africa, India and Southeast Asia.

In “Megashift,” author Jim Rutz coins a new phrase to define this fast-growing segment of the population. He calls them “core apostolics”– or “the new saints who are at the heart of the mushrooming kingdom of God.”

Rutz makes the point that Christianity is overlooked as the fastest-growing faith in the world because most surveys look at the traditional Protestant denominations and the Roman Catholic Church while ignoring Christian believers who have no part of either.

He says there are 707 million “switched-on disciples” who fit into this new category and that this “church” is exploding in growth.

“The growing core of Christianity crosses theological lines and includes 707 million born-again people who are increasing by 8 percent a year,” he says.

So fast is this group growing that, under current trends, according to Rutz, the entire world will be composed of such believers by the year 2032.

“There will be pockets of resistance and unforeseen breakthroughs,” writes Rutz.“Still, at the rate we’re growing now, to be comically precise, there would be more Christians than people by the autumn of 2032, about 8.2 billion.”

According to the author, until 1960, Western evangelicals outnumbered non-Western evangelicals – mostly Latinos, blacks and Asians – by two to one. As of 2000, non-Western evangelicals outnumbered Westerners by four to one. He says by 2010, the ratio will be seven to one.
http://www.wnd.com/2005/04/30077/

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re-posting:

Christianity on upswing in Japan

“A poll conducted by the Gallup Organization has yielded some surprising statistics on Japanese attitudes toward religion, morality and spirituality.

According to a media advisory obtained by ANS, among the findings from one of the most extensive surveys of the country ever taken was a Christian population of 6 percent, a number much higher than reported in previous surveys.

Researchers were also surprised by high numbers of teens who claimed the Christian faith, while the traditionally dominant religions, Buddhism and Shintoism, though still claimed by many adults, suffered declines among teenagers. Some respondents answered that they belonged to more than one religion.

Of the 30 percent of adults surveyed who claimed to have a religion, 75 percent considered themselves Buddhists, 19 percent Shintoists, while 12 percent considered themselves to be Christians.

Researchers were especially surprised at the large number of Japanese youth who claimed the Christian faith. Of the 20 percent who professed to have a religion, 60 percent called themselves Buddhists, 36 percent Christians and followers of the traditionally dominant Japanese religion, Shinto.

Calling the numbers “stunning,” George Gallup Jr. who assisted with the poll, noted of teenagers:“These projections mean that seven percent of the total teenage population say they are Christians.”
http://www.wnd.com/2006/03/35319/

[Growing in Japan too, huh?]
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Now your prejudice is sated, you should read Dawkins' books on Evolution.

They're excellent.
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Thank you for enligtening us. Glad to know Mr. Dawkins isn't an atheist. It's hard to express my gratitude to you for your valued post.

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The 2011 government Census for England and Wales reported over 6 million more non-believers in the UK alone in the last 10 years.
Have you got 1,800 new conversion posts, for England and Wales only, for each day, and every day for the last 10 years?
That's 12,600 new names every week, so get posting, christard!
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“No more than 15 percent of adults in the world's most populous country are "real atheists." 85 percent of the Chinese either hold some religious beliefs or practice some kind of religion, according to the Chinese Spiritual Life Survey.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-briggs/st...
[Go back to the drawing board, lol. Don't forget to give us links.]

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you should read Dawkins' books on Evolution.
They're excellent.
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Sounds wonderful, but right now I'm into reading more meaningful material. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Now your prejudice is sated, you should read Dawkins' books on Evolution.
They're excellent.
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Let me know when I can provide you with more information on the global expansion of Christianity. Always glad to help. Thanks. And have a good day.

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Just a reminder to everyone, should you have a dispute with the contents of any web page, feel free to contact the publisher with your concerns. I have no interest in your opinions.
If you have a link from a credit-worthy source that disputes any web page, you are also free to post that detail with the link, otherwise your opinion or dispute is not considered valid.
Four posts from you to me.

I must really be getting under your skin now.

Or is it that the troll is being trolled?

Whatever way you look at it, I gave you the opportunity to explain your lies and you flopped.

Can't say I'm surprised.

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The UK spelling is "plough", fucktard.
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No doubt when he's singing "Rock-a-bye baby" he sings about "when the bow breaks".

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