Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11178 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8272 Dec 11, 2012
KJV wrote:
I do see the article and that Mathias was the one that appeared to make those statements.
Kudos for admitting to that.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8273 Dec 11, 2012
KJV wrote:
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Yes as I pointed out that killing humans and eating them is not wrong in some cultures with out God.
Obeying Gods morals is not as bad as you think. And mans morals with out God can get pretty rough.
When it comes to killing and eating your children, the god of the Bible doesn't set a particularly good example.

Check out Jeremiah 19:1-9

Here we have an account of people sacrificing their children to another god.

Does Jehovah save the children from this grisly fate? No, in fact, he makes it worse by getting angry with the adults and he makes them eat their own children.

Instead of stopping the killing of innocent children, Jehovah ensures that they will now be eaten by their parents?

What is possibly good about this story?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8274 Dec 12, 2012
KJV wrote:
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As far as a God or many gods I find my faith in the bible with all its fulfilled prophets and proven recorded history.
Interesting how you should say you have "faith in the Bible", and not in Jesus. This is fundies are on such shaky ground. Cause you put your faith solely in a book of contradictions.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8275 Dec 12, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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Then at the end of your post, you accuse me of judging, but turn around and judge me in your last sentence. So it's okay for just YOU to judge, right?
Yes, I am not beholden to your rules. I dont have the bless ppl of pray for them or any of that rubbish as I dont believe in it. But tellingly you are unable to keep even to the basic requirements of your religion. Proving clearly that you are a false christian. Same goes for the other fundies here.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8276 Dec 12, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
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I thought you mythology said this Jehovah made everything .... wouldn't that include hell.
So either hell exist at his pleasure or he's not omnipotent.
And, if it he could eliminate hell but allows it to exist, he's not omnibenevolent.
Nicely put.
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#8277 Dec 12, 2012
You said given enough time, anything can happen. I won't pull you up on the exact detail of that here, but at least you now understand there is no need for a creator.
KJV wrote:
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Really? Sure about that?
Lets see you said: "Why would it? A jet is designed"
Why would it: because of the Theory of randomness. That given enough rolls of the dice anything could happen. This is what you completely missed with that question.
Now : A Jet is designed.
This I love. You see with this line you shot down the random theory (Evolution) and agreed with a intelligent designer.
I believe not only could a cigarette paper fly through that but the whole tree it came from. LOLNN

Since: Aug 12

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#8278 Dec 12, 2012
Atheists are more intelligent than religious people
Writing in the Freethinker (July 2008) Chris Barker argues that there is nothing racist about suggesting that atheists are more intelligent than believers.

IT was bound to happen. When Professor Richard Lynn claimed last month that people with higher IQs were less likely to believe in God many of those outraged by his assertion quickly tried to give his words a racist cast.

Professor Lynn, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Ulster University, said many more members of the “intellectual elite” considered themselves atheists than the national average. A decline in religious observance over the last century was directly linked to a rise in average intelligence, he claimed.

Professor Lynn, who has provoked controversy in the past with research linking intelligence to race and sex, said university academics were less likely to believe in God than almost anyone else.

A survey of Royal Society fellows found that only 3.3 per cent believed in God – at a time when 68.5 percent of the general UK population described themselves as believers. A separate poll in the 90s found only seven percent of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believed in God.

Professor Lynn said most primary school children believed in God, but as they entered adolescence – and their intelligence increased – many started to have doubts.

He told The Times Higher Education magazine:

Why should fewer academics believe in God than the general population? I believe it is simply a matter of the IQ. Academics have higher IQs than the general population.

Several Gallup poll studies of the general population have shown that those with higher IQs tend not to believe in God.
derek4 wrote:
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Ahhh.
Well, gee, we all have to put up with a few minor irritations. We have lots of spam in this forum - the red devil - for example, I skip all of his or her posts / spam.
And then, we have you for more spam....
But I have good news for you, Poly - I read ALL your posts.
Coming from me, that is a REAL compliment.
Hey, but don't let it go to your godless peabrain, since your posts mean nothing to me - but you shore do hang in there and try, don't ya?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#8279 Dec 12, 2012
derek4 wrote:
No one knows who you are, no one will grieve when you're gone, but the worms will love you.
Your religion can't die fast enough. We don't need people being taught to think like you. We can do so much better than this.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#8280 Dec 12, 2012
derek4 wrote:
You're unfamiliar with most things except the taste of your boogers you pick and eat while you're posting
More from Jesus, Inc.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8281 Dec 12, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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That simply calls for a repeat:
No link, no proof. You didn't do your research, so you failed us once again.
The link was posted when your lying caught you out.

You're the one who admits to not reading posts so the problem is yours - not mine.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8282 Dec 12, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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Let's ASSUME that's true. What does that prove, exactly? That Christianity is declining, as the Bible prophesied it would in the end time?[Yes.]
“You should know that being in the minority doesn't mean you're wrong. What percentage of the population did Noah and his family make up?“
Why are you referring to the Bible when you don't believe what it says?

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8283 Dec 12, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Conclusion: It seems very hard to conclude that atheists are under-represented in American prisons. They may, or may not, have failed to mention their atheism to authorities. In other words, the statistics are inconclusive.
Your whole argument rests on an assumption.

I could easily use a similar assumption when you quote statistics for numbers of religious adherents.

Except that I'm not as desperate as you.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#8284 Dec 12, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Atheism and Science
“Atheists have appealed to science in defence of their atheism since the first avowedly atheistic manuscripts of the mid seventeenth century..........
Your religion has been in trouble ever since Johannes Gutenberg introduced moveable type printing to Europe.

Prior to the printing press, Christians had a monopoly on the production of documents and books. They also had the authority to and influence to ensure that any documents it deemed to be heretical could be seized and destroyed as well as being able to torture and kill the authors.

Despite the best efforts of believers to prevent it, printing presses took book copying out of the hands of the Christians. This led to more and more secular publications which would shake the foundations of centuries of Christian thought.

Look at you, you're still shaking.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#8285 Dec 12, 2012
KJV wrote:
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No issues.
Believe what you wish. I'm just here for entertainment.
Thank you nad keep up the good work.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#8286 Dec 12, 2012
No my low IQ troll it's what the words mean. It's their translation. You will have to show hostorical proof otherwise because the facts are as usual way against you.

You really fell for that old legend didn't you? You really thought ancient people thought scorched was a great name for their city?

:shakes head: One born every minute.
KJV wrote:
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Boy you just keep getting dumber.
Those definition came from what happened to those towns! Those words did not have those meanings before Gods judgement on them. LOLNN

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#8287 Dec 12, 2012
Don't forget making a complete jackass out of yourself as you get factually crushed daily. For example did you know the King James Version of the bible which you proudly use as your screen name was vastly edited and rewritten by order of the king to have it better match the Church of England's beliefs?

:)
KJV wrote:
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No issues.
Believe what you wish. I'm just here for trolling.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#8288 Dec 12, 2012
According to this link less incorrect spam agnostics do not exist. Want a do over, or shall we just mock you ineptitude as usual?
KJV wrote:
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The CIA World Factbook gives the world population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as
Christian 33.35%(of which Roman Catholic 16.83%, Protestant 6.08%, Orthodox 4.03%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.43%,
Hindu 13.78%,
Buddhist 7.13%,
Sikh 0.36%,
Jewish 0.21%,
Baha'i 0.11%,
other religions 11.17%,
non-religious 9.42%,
atheists 2.04%.
Please note that Non-religions is a separate category then atheist. Why?
Because they are not interchangeable!
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#8289 Dec 12, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Your religion has been in trouble ever since Johannes Gutenberg introduced moveable type printing to Europe.
Prior to the printing press, Christians had a monopoly on the production of documents and books. They also had the authority to and influence to ensure that any documents it deemed to be heretical could be seized and destroyed as well as being able to torture and kill the authors.
Good point. The printing press was the beginning of the end for religion. Probably the most important invention of the Renaissance, and maybe even the most inflential invention in history.

Since: Nov 11

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#8290 Dec 12, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
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No, we don't. "Outside of time" is meaningless. You're just being absurd.
I always enjoy your humorous posts. Keep up your great work. Your statement is absurd and proves how meaningless you are.

Since: Nov 11

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#8291 Dec 12, 2012
Adam wrote:
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Yes, I am not beholden to your rules. I dont have the bless ppl of pray for them or any of that rubbish as I dont believe in it. But tellingly you are unable to keep even to the basic requirements of your religion. Proving clearly that you are a false christian. Same goes for the other fundies here.
Exactly: Atheists have no rules or moral requirements, so they can judge others but use a book (the bible) which they say they don't believe in to condemn others for “allegedly” judging.

LMAO

So, they use the bible when it serves their purpose, then when it does not serve their purpose, they say it doesn't apply. I see. That sounds like the typical atheist logic, okay.

Your post provides us excellent proof of atheist inconsistency, and your own personal inconsistency and corruption.

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