Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11177 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Star Press.

KJV

United States

#7464 Dec 2, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>I don't need to go "out there" for the answer concerning Jehovah. Your bible refutes that hypothesis right here on earth.

KJV wrote, "We know so little and we don't know so much only true arrogance would allow anyone to cement in on one possibility of how life or the universe started well know knowing 99.9% of what's out there. "

That's odd coming from somebody who makes decisions based on faith.
One can only rule things out if one has ALL the fact. You don't.
KJV

United States

#7465 Dec 2, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you still posting this misinformation? Polymath debunked it for you.
I'm quite aware that the European have had set back. The American team has not had those set backs, the American team has proven Neutrino do exist and they have detected man made Neutrino from Chicago. If all theory's of Neutrino s hold up then you would have Neutrino (matter) moving faster then light.

If all of the Neutrino theory is true.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#7466 Dec 2, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya you can't like him know that he's against the filth put out by that show.
Never heard of the show.

However, what he needs to do now is to show that he's against all the filth in the Bible.

You know the stuff....

Genocide, killings, homophobia, slavery, infanticide, misogyny, incest, coprophilia, etc.

The sort of things that you'd never find in a handbook of humanist values.
KJV

United States

#7467 Dec 2, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>No wonder they make up such a small percent – what do they offer the world? Every time they open their mouth, all that erupts is halitosis and intestinal gasses.
LOL
KJV

United States

#7468 Dec 2, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Re-posting this from sometime ago:

Atheists have shorter life span.[GREAT NEWS!!!]

“The oldest group of people in the country is a community of Seventh Day Adventists residing in Loma Linda, California. They have an average life expectancy of 88 years (a full ten years longer than the U.S. average). One reason may be that Adventists don't drink or smoke, and many follow the vegetarian diet the church advises. But not all members do, and even the meat-eaters live significantly longer than average. Dr. Gary Fraser, a researcher with the Loma Linda University School of Public Health who is researching the community, told the BBC. "At this moment we don't really know, but people who go to church regularly- whatever faith they have- live longer, and there's no question about that."
http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/Athei...

[I wonder if going to an atheist church would help improve the life expectancy of an atheist? Probably not, since the services wouldn't have any meaning.]

[No wonder atheists are calling their belief a religion for (1) IT IS, lol, and (2) they think if they are atheist religionists, they will have a longer life span. Well, that's understandable, atheists, but sorry, I don't think it works that way – you're still just a garden variey atheist - SO: make your ride on the planet as long as you can,'cause when it's over, the worms are waiting fer 'ya, and hell is gettin' bigger – LMAO.]
GREAT NEWS!!!
KJV

United States

#7469 Dec 2, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>On the contrary, it was the evidence that lead people to consider evolution in the first place. The alternatives in the early 1800's were what is now known as Creationism and another view called Catastrophism. Both were shown wrong by the fossil and geological evidence. Darwin came a bit later and proposed a *mechanism* for evolution. This was modified in the 1950's to take advantage of the knowledge of genetics that had grown since Darwin's time. Now, we are studying the detailed mechanisms of evolution at the gene level.

The point? The evidence showed 200 years ago that the Creationist view was wrong. The evidence since then has only grown to show that evolution happens and the details of how it happens. It is way, way past time for the Biblical literalists to admit they are wrong and adapt to the real world.
"The evidence showed 200 years ago that the Creationist view was wrong"

Why do you feel the need to lie?
Creationist has never been proven wrong.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#7470 Dec 2, 2012
KJV wrote:
Creationist has never been proven wrong.
I suppose you're right.

Those that believe Odin created everything from the body of a giant haven't been proven wrong.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#7471 Dec 2, 2012
Yes the spambot troll who just reposts the exact same off topic unread spam needs to be reported often and timely for this and all trolling posts.

Time to flush people time to flush.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#7472 Dec 2, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"The evidence showed 200 years ago that the Creationist view was wrong"
Why do you feel the need to lie?
Creationist has never been proven wrong.
It is no lie. The *scientific* debate about Creationism happened 200 years ago and the Creationist last because of the evidence. The *political* debate is still going on because the preachers can hoodwink a scientifically illiterate audience and make it seem that their view should be taught in schools.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#7474 Dec 2, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
GREAT NEWS!!!
Can you imagine how high the blood pressure is for the average atheist? All that anger and hate raises it. Ages them too, lol. Great news.

Churchgoers Have Lower Blood Pressure, Study Says

“A new study is saying that people who attend and participate in church frequently are also more likely to have lower blood pressure than those who do not.

The study, "The Relationship Between Religious Attendance and Blood Pressure: The Hunt Study,” was conducted by researchers from the Norwegian University of Science and Technology.

“It is a lot more complex of a relationship than simply going to church and your blood pressure decreasing,” insists co-author Dr. Harold G. Koenig.“If going to church leads you to a deeper relationship with God, as a result a deeper sense of peace and a more loving relationship with your neighbor, then it could indeed affect blood pressure.”

Critics (and atheists) however aren't buying it.[They think denying it will stop it.....lol. Anger and hostility are killers.]]

http://loop21.com/life/churchgoers-have-lower...

[Repeat:“If going to church leads you to a deeper relationship with God, as a result a deeper sense of peace and a more loving relationship with your neighbor, then it could indeed affect blood pressure.”]

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#7475 Dec 2, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"The evidence showed 200 years ago that the Creationist view was wrong"
Why do you feel the need to lie?
Creationist has never been proven wrong.
His statement isn't backed anywhere, unless he means evidence supporting the false theory of evolution, which is worthless since it was fraudulent.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#7476 Dec 2, 2012
Atheists, how would you like to help the British Humanist Association?

[their motto:“for the one life we have”]

Are you interested in getting involved? Could you spare a few hours to help the BHA?

BHA is looking for a pool of volunteers to call upon on an ad-hoc basis to help with a range of tasks in our busy office. This could include:
Putting together information packs
Photocopying
Envelope stuffing and mailings
[conducting fraudulent evolution experimentation]
[helping the staff dictate our beliefs]

Technically competent volunteers could:
Check our website and ensure that it functions well
Input data

We are looking for people who are available for a few hours or perhaps a morning or afternoon, during office hours (Monday – Friday, 9.30am-5pm).
http://www.humanism.org.uk/about/vacancies

[Just this reminder: They need you to help “spread the word”. Just think, if you would get off your fat rumps, you could be a valuable part of this fine organization and win converts for your atheist religion.]

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#7477 Dec 2, 2012
Atheists of Florida

Volunteer

Help Organize
Contact us to learn how to start a chapter in your community.
Monitor

Help us keep track of state/church separation issues by monitoring your own local governments. Please contact us if you become aware of religion being promoted or privileged by government entities.
http://atheistsofflorida.org/volunteer.html

[Atheists – go to WORK for your cause, help the Atheists of Florida spread their meaningless message.]

[HELP THEM DICTATE YOUR BELIEFS TODAY, LIKE IN THE GREAT DAYS OF COMMUNIST RUSSIA BY:“contacting us if you become aware of religion being promoted”.]

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#7478 Dec 2, 2012
“Thinking of starting an Atheist "church"
Author: Bio-logical
Posted: 12/11/2009 03:55 PM

So I am unemployed right now, giving me a lot of time to ponder and to use it basically whatever way I see fit. This has given me an idea that I would like to put into action, and I was hoping for help if anybody has any ideas or possibly to just spread the idea abroad.

I want to start an atheist "church". Not a church in the idea of getting together and praying, but instead focusing on the good things that churches accomplish:

volunteer work
helping the poor
mission work (spreading education without a religious subtext)
gathering and maintaining resources and information to help people
counseling for the community
Sunday school (or something similar that teaches children logic and encourages free inquiry)
Social events
Potentially a private school someday

So... What do you think?”
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/pda/thr...

[Is this really a “new” idea -“starting” an atheist church? NO (duh)- this guy is way behind the times......atheist churches certainly aren't NEW.......I've already posted links for a bunch of atheist churches – they're everywhere.]

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#7479 Dec 2, 2012
Another Atheist Goes to Church

“Cedric Stratton is an atheist. He is also a regular attender at St. Luke's Lutheran Church in Savannah, Georgia. In the eleven years he has attended the church, he has become a beloved part of the congregation. According to this article,

Stratton attends nearly every worship service and church event. He volunteers for nearly every work project. He offers help to sick parishioners. He brings his smooth tenor to the church choir.

He evidently has endeared himself to the congregation, and his atheism doesn't seem to be an impediment. To his credit, Stratton is not shy about his beliefs. He wrote a seven-page essay explaining that his atheism is rooted in chaos theory.

On one hand, I think it's admirable that the church has providing a welcoming environment for someone of radically different beliefs. Apparently everyone loves him for his genial spirit and his willingness to serve. But what about those pesky doctrines of heaven and hell, of salvation only through the blood of Jesus? How can an atheist be comfortable in a church over the long haul if he doesn't believe anything in the church's statement of faith? The article explains that Stratton reacts sharply if someone suggests he is not a Christian.

"I take offense to that," he said. "I'm Christian, in everything except theology."

Well, that's one solution. Just get rid of theology and we're all Christians, including people who don't even believe in God. Of course, if you get rid of theology, then you don't need Jesus or God or the Holy Spirit or the Bible. You don't need prayer or worship. You don't really need the church at all. Any neighborhood social club could fill the bill.

But there is one quote at the end of the story that gives me some hope.

"My thinking is that these people are so great to be with, I don't care if I'm forced to live in hell for eternity," Stratton said.

That's a pretty good comment because it means that some part of the truth has broken through to Cedric Stratton. We can only pray that the rest of the truth will find a place in his heart so that he will become a true follower of Christ, theology included.”
http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/dr-ray-pritcha...

[Wow, if Cedric can do it, so can you lazy atheists in this forum, lol – get up off your lazy rumps and go to church!!!!]

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#7480 Dec 2, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is no lie. The *scientific* debate about Creationism happened 200 years ago and the Creationist last because of the evidence. The *political* debate is still going on because the preachers can hoodwink a scientifically illiterate audience and make it seem that their view should be taught in schools.
You conveniently forgot to include any link, and it wouldn't be credible anyway. God has not been disproved, therefore neither has Creationism, regardless of the debate you refer to.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#7481 Dec 2, 2012
derek4 wrote:
"Spirituality May Help People Live Longer"
That's good news. Unfortunately for you, you have religion instead.
derek4 wrote:
[So Christians are wasting their Sundays in church???]
Yes. When you subtract out the thousands of hours wasted reading ancient goatherd fairy tales, muttering at the ceiling fan, and listening to mind numbing sermons every Sunday morning, your useful life is dramatically reduced.
derek4 wrote:
"A growing body of research is beginning to define the complex connections between religious and spiritual beliefs"
I don't see them as being related at all. I don't see how a Christian can be spiritual at all. Your infantile dogma drags you down.

Authentic spirituality involves a connection to nature. Your dogma rips you right out of the universe psychologically and philosophically. You see our world as "worldly, " a word which you can barely choke out so great is your contempt for it.

Unbelievably, you hate matter itself, and consider it base, and hate the philosophy based in it: materialism. And you loathe humanity just as much, referring to your own material being as "the flesh," which is spat out with the same contempt that you say "the world."

What could be less spiritual than that? Do you think that you are spiritual because you refer to the mythical pigeon as the Holy Spirit? Wouldn't I be just as spiritual worshiping Casper the Friendly Ghost?

Spirituality combines awe, mystery, gratitude and a sense of connection to the universe. You have taken whatever little of that you might have had and exported it out of our universe to a nonexistent realm populated by figments of your imagination. You have shifted your attention from your humanity, your world, and even your only life to nowhere, and to your death.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#7482 Dec 2, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Just a note to the atheist judge or judges:
Please grade my new posts with bad marks this morning. It always makes my day to see them.
That's a bit of a nuisance, but if you insist, you've got it. I'll do at least this page right now, OK?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#7483 Dec 2, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Hell is warming up fer 'ya.
I can tell when you're most frustrated. You bring the scary chicken on the stick out and shake it: "Arise, Chicken. Oogah Boogah!"

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#7485 Dec 3, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Wise words which I fear are lost on the Dim crowd.
They're in with the Dim crowd (da da da )
They go where the Dim crowd goes....
Dim Dandy to the rescue!
Go, Dim Dandy! Go, Dim Dandy!

==========

May I have your attention please?
May I have your attention please?
Will the real Dim Shady please stand up?
I repeat, will the real Dim Shady please stand up?
We're gonna have a problem here..

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