Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11177 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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KJV

United States

#7104 Nov 28, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>Perfectly made points - unfortunately wasted on rodent “Kitten”, who never had any credibility to begin with.
True! LOL
KJV

United States

#7105 Nov 28, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense. That's Einstein:

[1] From "The father of modern physics" at http://www.mathscareers.org.uk/viewItem.cfm... "Today Einstein is considered the father of modern physics."

[2] From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein "Einstein is often regarded as the father of modern physics and the most influential physicist of the 20th century."

[3] "Why is Einstein considered the father of modern physics?" curiosity.discovery.com/question/why-einstein...

[4] "Albert Einstein is called the father of modern physics. He was the one who came up with most of the concepts of modern physics"
http://physics.tutorvista.com/modern-physics....
Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck, ForMemRS[1](April 23, 1858 – October 4, 1947) was a German theoretical physicist who originated quantum theory, which won him the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1918.[2]

Planck made many contributions to theoretical physics, but his fame rests primarily on his role as originator of the quantum theory. This theory revolutionized human understanding of atomic and subatomic processes, just as Albert Einstein’s theory of relativity revolutionized the understanding of space and time. Together they constitute the fundamental theories of 20th-century physics. Both have led humanity to revise some of its most cherished philosophical beliefs, and have brought about industrial and military applications that affect many aspects of modern life.
KJV

United States

#7106 Nov 28, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>"The Bible specifically states...."

You see, that's my beef with the scripture that specifically states that the circumference of the circle is three times its diameter. It doesn't say it's approximate and it doesn't say it's been rounded down to the nearest whole number.
LMAO

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LOL
KJV

United States

#7107 Nov 28, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>I'm curious as to what you mean by planets spinning the wrong way.

What's the right way?
Do you know The theory of angular momentum?

If you did you would not need to post this dribble.
KJV

United States

#7108 Nov 28, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>Aren't there certain areas where the laws of physics as we know them seem to collapse? The speed of light being a case in point or at the quantum level of matter.

The theorised quantum fluctuation that led to the Big Bang wouldn't have been subject to the current laws of physics.

I guess we need a cosmologist or an astro-physicist in here.
Yes there are. But the fact is a black hole has never started to expand slowly
As your Big Bang singularity theory states. And the claim that the laws of physics did not take affect until science says is bull. Science cannot turn on and off the laws of the universe.

“Think&Care”

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#7109 Nov 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
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Yes there are. But the fact is a black hole has never started to expand slowly
As your Big Bang singularity theory states. And the claim that the laws of physics did not take affect until science says is bull. Science cannot turn on and off the laws of the universe.
Why are you confusing black holes and the Big Bang? They are very different types of singularity.

“Think&Care”

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#7110 Nov 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
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Do you know The theory of angular momentum?
If you did you would not need to post this dribble.
Yes, I know about angular momentum. So what do you mean about planets that spin the 'wrong way'?

“Think&Care”

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#7111 Nov 28, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Isn't that because of dark matter/energy and not to do with gravity?
A bit of both. Dark matter keeps its density upon expansion. When you put that property into the laws of gravity, you get accelerating expansion.

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#7112 Nov 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
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There are black holes through out our galaxy yet alone the universe. And everything known about them to science and the law of our universe prohibits them from just one day start to slowly expand and recreate everything sucked into them. We just can't go around claiming that the first one didn't have to follow these laws.
The Big Bang singularity is not a black hole singularity. They are very different.

“Think&Care”

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#7113 Nov 28, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Nonsense. That's Einstein:
[1] From "The father of modern physics" at http://www.mathscareers.org.uk/viewItem.cfm... "Today Einstein is considered the father of modern physics."
[2] From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein "Einstein is often regarded as the father of modern physics and the most influential physicist of the 20th century."
[3] "Why is Einstein considered the father of modern physics?" curiosity.discovery.com/question/why-einstein...
[4] "Albert Einstein is called the father of modern physics. He was the one who came up with most of the concepts of modern physics"
http://physics.tutorvista.com/modern-physics....
Planck certainly has an honorable role as the inventor of the idea of the quantum. That it was developed fully by others doesn't change the fact that he originated it. Of course, it was Einstein, Bohr, Schrodinger, and others that really brought it to fruition (and modified it greatly from what Planck proposed).

“Think&Care”

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#7114 Nov 28, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Aren't there certain areas where the laws of physics as we know them seem to collapse? The speed of light being a case in point or at the quantum level of matter.
The theorised quantum fluctuation that led to the Big Bang wouldn't have been subject to the current laws of physics.
I guess we need a cosmologist or an astro-physicist in here.
Well, the goal is to find laws that *do* apply. What we know is that general relativity has to be modified to encompass the quantum aspects and we don't know how to do that.

“Think&Care”

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#7115 Nov 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
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Even if those laws didn't start until last year the expansion of the universe should be slowing down and not speeding up because of gravity.
Not when there is a non-zero cosmological constant (i.e, dark energy).

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#7116 Nov 28, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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A bit of both. Dark matter keeps its density upon expansion. When you put that property into the laws of gravity, you get accelerating expansion.
That should be dark *energy*, not dark matter. Dark matter expands in the same way as ordinary matter. Dark energy keeps its density upon expansion.
KJV

United States

#7117 Nov 28, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>Isn't that because of dark matter/energy and not to do with gravity?
There is an unknown dark matter that repels science believes. Because they can't find any reason for the universe to be expanding at an increasing rate.
That dark matter is not fact it is a guess and science in now in search of that dark matter. However even if that dark matter exist ( I think it does ) it cannot break apart a singularity in the middle of a black hole.
KJV

United States

#7118 Nov 28, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>So you don't know why he had his son killed?

Fair enough then.
LOL

Who's on first?

What an idiot.
KJV

United States

#7119 Nov 28, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>You have never been to Mexico either? Wow.

You shouldn't believe everything you hear on TV.
Derek do you see how the fumbling bumbling little atheist keeps posting this kind of dribble. It's unreal how they love to show off there ignorance and lie right out in the open and still expect to be held as a credible source for their fight!

Wow what fools.
KJV

United States

#7120 Nov 28, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you confusing black holes and the Big Bang? They are very different types of singularity.
Oh different types of singularity!

"According to the standard theory, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago. What is a "singularity" and where does it come from? Well, to be honest, we don't know for sure. Singularities are zones which defy our current understanding of physics. They are thought to exist at the core of "black holes." Black holes are areas of intense gravitational pressure. The pressure is thought to be so intense that finite matter is actually squished into infinite density (a mathematical concept which truly boggles the mind). These zones of infinite density are called "singularities." Our universe is thought to have begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot, infinitely dense, something - a singularity. Where did it come from? We don't know. Why did it appear? We don't know. "

But we know this was a different type of singularity? LOL
KJV

United States

#7121 Nov 28, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>The Big Bang singularity is not a black hole singularity. They are very different.
According to the standard theory, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago. What is a "singularity" and where does it come from? Well, to be honest, we don't know for sure. Singularities are zones which defy our current understanding of physics. They are thought to exist at the core of "black holes." Black holes are areas of intense gravitational pressure. The pressure is thought to be so intense that finite matter is actually squished into infinite density (a mathematical concept which truly boggles the mind). These zones of infinite density are called "singularities." Our universe is thought to have begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot, infinitely dense, something - a singularity. Where did it come from? We don't know. Why did it appear? We don't know.

http://www.big-bang-theory.com/
KJV

United States

#7122 Nov 28, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Not when there is a non-zero cosmological constant (i.e, dark energy).
I'm quite familiar with dark matter.

The Soudan Underground Laboratory is the leading deep underground science and engineering laboratory in the United States today. Scientists from around the world have been working at Soudan for 25 years trying to answer basic questions about the Universe in which we live: Is matter completely stable? What is the nature of the fundamental forces? Can we identify the Dark Matter that seems to permeate our Universe?

“Think&Care”

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#7123 Nov 28, 2012
KJV wrote:
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There is an unknown dark matter that repels science believes.
Dark *energy* is the stuff that repels, not dark matter.

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