Don't dictate beliefs

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No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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KJV

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#7016 Nov 27, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Hey Adam, do you love your atheist sister Madalyn?

Gotta love this charming lady:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bWeyiryKtCAXX

Feel her love......LMAO
Not much difference then what we see on these boards. LOL
KJV

United States

#7017 Nov 27, 2012
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>Even if you think evolution is false, and somehow an evil doctrine, this does not prove a supernatural agency. You should know that many theists accept evolution cause of the overwhelming evidence in support of it.
Adam just keep it real and honest. If this is done Christians believes have nothing to worry about because once science lies stop then intelligent design becomes the most obvious choice.

Adam,

How did life start?
KJV

United States

#7018 Nov 27, 2012
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>Good stuff. The "body and blood" teaching will have come from Mithraism and not Judasim imo.
Adam

How did the universe start?
And why?
KJV

United States

#7019 Nov 27, 2012
Adam wrote:
The ritual cannibalism in Christianity is a concept which is worth exploring further. If you explain the transformation of bread and wine into the flesh and blood of Jesus to a non-Christian, they will be repulsed by the idea. A sane and rational person will see this for what it is, a strange, superstitious and satanic ritual.

God eating preceded Christianity. But made an entrance in the gospel of John chapter 6. Protestants try and write this off as symbolic. However careful reading of the text shows that the Catholic position is the orthodox one. Jesus really did teach that zombies, er I mean Christians, need to literally eat his flesh and drink his blood, in the form of a wafer of bread and a sip of wine.

This bizarre teaching proved to be a barrier to belief of the Jews, according to John's gospel. And they walked out on him. However his faithful disciples believed in this even though no doubt they found it repulsive.

Such is faith I guess.

The fact that Protestants think this symbolic, is proof that no one takes the Bible literally. As even Bible only fundies reject the obvious meaning of John 6.

All goes to show how religion can brainwash people.
Adam
Do you believe that science finally have that age of everything pinned down pretty much this time or will there be billions of years thrown in again when they find out they need yet more time to explain something?
KJV

United States

#7020 Nov 27, 2012
Adam wrote:
This reminds me of the cosmic jewish zombie definition of Christianity.

I shall give my personal definition of Christianity .

.. "the belief in an invisible and silent entity called God. This entity incarnated himself as a person called Jesus who taught you will burn you in hell fire for eternity unless you eat his flesh and drink his blood." Crazy, crazy stuff.(shakes head)
Adam

Why didn't the laws of physics exist once the universe existed?
KJV

United States

#7021 Nov 27, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>What if the speck creates its own set of laws each time it generates a universe?
What if?

The point is the speck that started this universe had our current laws of physics
And these laws forbid the universe from starting that way.
KJV

United States

#7022 Nov 27, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>So rather than have people treating each other well and adhering to your deity's rules, your god preferred to give us free will so that we can have shootings, stabbings, rapes, theft, fraud, etc?
What part don't you understand about freedom of choice?
KJV

United States

#7023 Nov 27, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>These laws of physics wouldn't come into existence until after the quantum fluctuation set things going. Furthermore, they may result in an entirely different kind of universe with an altogether different set of universal laws.
Even if those laws didn't start until last year the expansion of the universe should be slowing down and not speeding up because of gravity.
KJV

United States

#7024 Nov 27, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>That would be YOUR specialty.
Now is this KK's other personality like she claimed on another thread?
KJV

United States

#7025 Nov 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
Summary of the above:
KJV knows less about genetics than a 1 year old with brain damage.
Still pissed about getting blown out of the water on your last accusation?

LOL. Berkeley LOL
KJV

United States

#7026 Nov 27, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>I know you claim it, but it's an unacceptable argument. How could man create anything in a world created by an omniscient, omnipotent god? If you can foresee what your creation will do, and have the power to make that be whatever you want it to be, then what it does is your creation as well.

If man can create entire categories of moral behavior, then I am free to speculate that it was your god that created the evil and sin in man and the universe, and that it was man created the good, introduced it into the world, and that your god stole the credit from man. It's just as possible as the other way around.
You fail to see the full power of our God!
Amazing how he spoke into existence our universe. How he allowed Lucifer and Man to sin. Something that he can't stand.

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#7027 Nov 27, 2012
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly idea which I dont think will happen. Money would be better spent on science museums. And no science is not a religion. It is just that the public needs to be better educated in science.
Why does the public need to be more educated in science than other subjects? Because it's the backbone of the atheist religion?

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#7028 Nov 27, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder what note Lucifer is on?
Lucifer. Well, the antichrist is going to figure out a perfect monetary world system, and we won't need notes. Lol – the Darwin 10 pound notes will be obsolete. Do you realize how close we are to a world currency? Bible prophecy.

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#7029 Nov 27, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
The vast majority of the world's christians accept that evolution happens.
A fact that Dim will hate!
LOL
But, like you once said, being in the minority doesn't mean you're wrong. Remember your example of Noah and his family?

“While an overwhelming majority of the scientific community accepts evolution as the dominant scientific theory of biological diversity, creationists have asserted that there is a significant scientific controversy and disagreement over the validity of evolution.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support...

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#7030 Nov 27, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Not much difference then what we see on these boards. LOL
I know – they're all angry little Madalyns in here, lol. It's hilarious watching them stomp their feet and get mad over and over. None of them impress me enough to get the least mad, lmao.

Get that blood pressure up, atheists!!!

Get that coronary.

Don't delay.....

The worms are waiting for you, and hell is warming up.

LMAO

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#7031 Nov 27, 2012
Morgan State professor indicted in fraud scheme

November 14, 2012 - The Baltimore Sun

“A full-time engineering professor at Morgan State University was indicted by a federal grand jury Wednesday in an alleged scheme to defraud the National Science Foundation of hundreds of thousands of dollars in grant funding.

Manoj Kumar Jha, 45, who oversees the university's transportation engineering graduate program, according to the university's website, allegedly fabricated an elaborate research proposal on behalf of a private company he founded and then applied for funding through the NSF's Small Business Technology Transfer program, according to the Maryland U.S. attorney's office.”

According to prosecutors, "the stated purpose of Jha's proposed project was to enhance current models used by highway planners to optimize horizontal and vertical highway routes, and ultimately, to commercialize the result."

Jha received $200,000 to conduct the research but instead allegedly made personal mortgage and credit card payments, paid his wife $11,000 for work she didn't do and wrote himself a $6,000 check, prosecutors said.

Jha, who is also the founding director of Morgan State's Center of Advanced Transportation and Infrastructure Engineering Research, also applied for $500,000 more for the project but did not receive it, prosecutors said.

Jha could not be reached for comment.”
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-11-14/n...

[Gosh – weren't the peer review groups checking into his work? I thought the atheists who defended the science god said the peer review groups caught fraudulent scientists. Hmmmm.]

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#7032 Nov 27, 2012
Science: How Much Fraud, As Opposed to Plain Old Error?

“How many retracted papers, would you say, are due to honest error rather than fraud and other misconduct? We now can put a number on that, thanks to this paper. The authors have looked over all 2,047 paper listed on PubMed from the life sciences as "retracted" (better them than me), with the earliest going back to 1977. The authors are careful to point out that this is absolutely an underestimate, though, with several examples of papers which are known to be fraudulent but have never been officially retracted. But they find that:

...only 21.3% of retractions were attributable to error. In contrast, 67.4% of retractions were attributable to misconduct, including fraud or suspected fraud (43.4%), duplicate publication (14.2%), and plagiarism (9.8%).

They blame incomplete and outright misleading retraction notices for confusing the issue about these numbers.(I've always liked, in a teeth-gritting way, the idea of a dubious retraction notice - it gives these things the full surround-sound sensory experience). Many published retractions that blame things like "flaws in the data analysis" turn out, on follow-up, to have been the subject of investigations that strongly suggested fraud.”
http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2012/11/...

[How much fraud in Darwin's day? How much fraud was Darwin himself guilty of?]

[Maybe Adam was right, the public needs to be better educated in REAL science so they can see through fraudulent Darwinism.]

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#7033 Nov 27, 2012
University of Kentucky researcher accused of falsifying data for a decade

“A former high-ranking researcher at the University of Kentucky has been penalized by federal investigators in a scientific misconduct case that spanned a decade and included allegations that he falsified data in at least 10 papers and numerous grant applications.

Eric J. Smart, who was an associate professor and vice-chairman of the UK Department of Pediatrics and the Barnstable-Brown Chair in Diabetes Research, resigned from UK in May.

Smart voluntarily agreed to a "debarment" for seven years, in which he will not be involved in federal programs or research, according to the Office of Research Integrity with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees the National Institutes of Health.”
http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/26/2422095/un...

[Wow – he got away with it for at least a decade. The peer review groups didn't notice? Why? Were they too busy doing their own fraudulent work to notice Mr. Smart was cheating? How often might this happen? And if he got away with it for 10 years, how many out there are getting away with it right now and won't be caught – at least not for 10 more years? If their work is responsible for bad medications getting on the market, how many people may die? Does it matter? I mean, we don't want medicated people to reproduce anyway, right? Only the fittest.]

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#7034 Nov 27, 2012
“Much like open peer-review, the ideas behind Peerage of Science have met with some understandable scepticism from the research community—something which its founders recognise as inevitable with any new venture that alters an established process. The idea originated in the ecology and evolution departments of University of Jyväskylä and the University of Eastern Finland, and it is among these fields that support has largely grown– as would be expected from a system of invitation-only peerage.

One accusation that has lingered about this approach is: how will it avoid problems of “nepotistic reviewing”, as colleagues and friends review each other’s work?

Co-founding peer Janne-Tuomas Seppänen explains:

“In Peerage of Science peers can freely choose what to review. Editors of fully participating journals have tools to invite reviews for a given manuscript from particular peers, but the same tools are available to everyone else as well, including the authors.

But friendships or feuds are difficult to control for.

Chances are that in the traditional system a nepotistic (or negatively biased) review goes through undetected, as…there is usually no peer review of the reviewer’s arguments. In contrast, Peerage of Science features peer review of peer review, public reputation incentive, plus full audit trail of every action in the system and severe punishment for scientific misconduct.”
http://blogs.biomedcentral.com/bmcseriesblog/...

[Today's science so bad that it's time for peerage review of peer review of peer review. Lucky Darwin missed all that, lol. He just railroaded everything right on through - no accountability.]

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#7035 Nov 27, 2012
Crucial evidence used in Eastman trial came from expert sacked in Victoria

“In 1995, David Harold Eastman was convicted of the January 1989 shooting murder of Australian Federal Police Assistant Commissioner Colin Winchester at his home in Deakin.

Ashley Coulston was the Burwood triple murderer and suspected ''balaclava killer''. Mr Barnes had been engaged by Coulston's defence team to attack evidence presented by another expert but, according to the VFSC, his statements were factually incorrect on some critical matters, and he misrepresented and exaggerated his abilities.

Mr Barnes had been dismissed for scientific misconduct by the VFSC in 1993 after serious concerns were raised about evidence he had given in a number of cases, and after an internal review of his cases had shown a persistent failure to follow established procedures for examining and recording evidence.

But this was not generally known at the time. The AFP used Mr Barnes as one of its forensic experts after Mr Winchester was shot dead in the driveway of his home. Mr Barnes's findings were critical in linking gunshot residue in bullet cartridges found near the murder scene with cartridges fired through a particular gun and, later, with microscopic gunshot residue said to have been found in the boot of Eastman's car.

But the jury, judge and defence team were not told by the Director of Public Prosecutions, or police, about Mr Barnes's dismissal or the doubts that had arisen about his methods. Mr Barnes's evidence at the trial, which varied in significant respects from evidence he had given at the inquest into Mr Winchester's death, was not cross-examined by the defence, and its weaknesses, or discrepancies, were not explored. Eastman suffered mental illness and repeatedly dismissed counsel in the trial. Mostly, when unrepresented, he refused to participate. The trial judge, who believed that Eastman was faking in an effort to achieve a mistrial, allowed the case to proceed.

It is only now, 17 years after the conviction, and nearly 24 years after the services of Mr Barnes were first engaged by the Winchester investigation, that Victoria Police has released its files on Mr Barnes, after a freedom of information request by The Canberra Times last year. Mr Barnes initially appealed the decision to grant access but ultimately withdrew his appeal.”
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/cruc...

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