Don't dictate beliefs

Sep 5, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Star Press

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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I dont see the reason why anyone would pray. Reflective meditation I guess may give some people comfort. But praying in the usual sense of the word is nonsensical.
The fact that God fails to answer prayers is proof that God is imaginary.
Praying usually takes two forms.
1) to grovel before God, heaping endless thanks and praises on him. God must surely have a weak ego to need such self indulgent toadying.
2) people asking God for stuff, blessing, healing, miracles, etc. This is basically saying God is wrong. And God should be doing something he currently is not doing. It basically saying that god is not loving or perfect. And the petitioner wants god to act in a way contrary to his supposed perfect will.
Your post is so ignorant that it's actually funny. Thanks for trying.

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The Unhappy Atheist

“I’ve never met a happy atheist.
Atheists are angry, often full of hatred. They are angry at religion and religious people, and since most people on the planet are religious, this means they are pretty much misanthropes. Atheists are often people who have been wronged by religious people, and their anger taints everything they do.
Atheists are usually intelligent; so intelligent in fact, that they think they are smarter than everyone else. Therefore they are full of arrogance, contempt and even rage against people for being so stupid as to believe in a god. They are condescending and patronizing, and their supposedly “objective” and “intellectual” criticism of religion is always laced with insults and negative emotion.
I have never read or heard an atheist argument that relied solely on logic. They use every propaganda trick in the book: straw men, exaggeration, reframing the argument, etc. They seemingly cannot present a logical point of view on the subject of religion that does not rely on distortions or attacks.
Atheists have a bleak view of the universe: there is no purpose to life, no code of ethics to guide us, no comfort in tragedy and death. There is simply cold, brutal Darwinism, a short, meaningless existence, and then utter nothingness.
If atheism brought inner peace, everyone would embrace it (except those who enjoy being conflicted.) Instead, the majority of people embrace religion.
Atheists are now attempting love and kindness, but they will tire of it. Atheists’ inherent sense of superiority will fill them with disgust for the weak. Atheists will burn out with no source of compassion to plug into and no well of joy from which to draw.
Atheism has nothing to offer you. Let go of your anger and your arrogance. They aren’t helping you.”
http://thelankyprophet.wordpress.com/2012/07/...

[This is SO TRUE, lol.......love it.]

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Angry Atheists [LOL]

“How harmless is it to post an article about why people should read the bible on a site devoted to religion? I did on this very page, and it evoked more than 2,000 responses, most of them angry. I had previously written a similarly gentle article about how God should be taught to children that evoked more than 1,000 responses, almost all negative and many downright nasty.

It is curious that a religion site draws responses mostly from atheists, and that the atheists are very unhappy. They are unhappy with the bible ("foolish fairy tales" is one of the more generous descriptions), unhappy with the idea of God (the "imaginary dictator" whose task in human history, apparently, is to ensure that oppression and evil triumph) and very unhappy with anyone (read: me) who presumes to offer religious advice to the religious. Only the untutored assume that religious people predominate on websites (Huffington Post Religion page, On Faith in the Washington Post, Beliefnet.com ) devoted to religion.

In the past when I have debated noted atheists -- Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and others -- the audience was heavily weighted toward my opponents. That makes sense. Each of these men -- like Dawkins, Dennett and others -- brings with them a large following. But why seek out a religious site solely to insult religion? I wondered: Why are atheists so angry?

Here are four reasons, none exclusive of the others:

1 - Atheists genuinely resent the evil that religion has done. No one can seriously deny that religion has been guilty of wickedness in this world and has provided cover for wickedness. I refer not only to abusers who hide under the cloak of clergy, but religious persecutions, the stifling of speech and dissent, the mistreatment of women -- the crimes are legion. While as a believer I think there is much more to be said about this topic, it is certainly reasonable for people to be angry at religion for its abuses, particularly people who have themselves been victims.

2 - They are convinced that religion is a fairy tale made up of whole cloth that impedes science/progress/rational thought. No avalanche of counterexamples, from noted scientists who are believers to the way in which the scientific method has flourished in the monotheistic west (as opposed to say, the non-monotheistic eastern societies) will serve to dissuade. That which is understood to have happened to Galileo is all, apparently, one needs to know.

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So please, feel free to vituperate, argue and belittle. But understand that the religious dialogue is not advanced by shaken fists and snide asides.”....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-david-wol...

[Nasty little nit-picking atheists, lol. Angry little atheists – hating themselves, hating others; just full of hate. Funny how much hate they can muster up over what they call a “myth”; LMAO]

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The unhappy godless at work defacing property:

Utah highway crosses get a makeover

Standard-Examiner (AP): Over the past week, the 12-foot-high Roman crosses have been stripped of the brown and gold beehive-shaped logo of the Utah Highway Patrol, association attorney Frank Mylar said ...“We’re hoping we can keep the memorials as much intact as possible but change them so that it complies with the (court),” Mylar said.“They really feel strongly that that without the cross there’s no memorial.”
http://www.alliancealert.org/2011/11/21/utah-...

[Maybe communities should erect a giant statue of a flesh eating worm to commemorate atheists, lol.]

[Or construct a statue of Madalyn O'Hair. The atheists could congregate under her adulterous stone shadow to sing carols, lmao.]

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More atheists dictating their beliefs:

“A protest formed outside of the Historic Chester County Courthouse in West Chester on Dec. 3; held by members of the Freethinking Society. They gathered to express their disapproval of the county government’s decision to prohibit the placement of their Tree of Knowledge next to Christmas symbols that encourage religion.

The Freethinking Society has been denied a display for the second year in a row. Lead by Margaret Downey, the founder and president of the Society, the groups formed a human Tree of Knowledge by crowding together and holding atheistic literature as decoration. Books such as “Jesus Interrupted” and “Does God Exist?” were among the cluster, as well as the Bible and The Book of Mormon.

Members shared how they found these religious texts to be flawed and how it actually served to enhance their atheistic views.”
http://global.christianpost.com/news/atheists...

[Why all this effort to protests something they say is “imaginary”? The tooth fairy is imaginary, but I wouldn't bother protesting if a city erected a statue of a tooth fairy – why should I care, lol? But God is seen by atheists as a threat to them. It's amazing how terrified atheists are of God.]

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American Christian Philosopher and Debater 'Puts the Fear of God' in British Atheists

“Atheist philosophers and debaters in Britain are being accused of "running shy" of debate with a Christian Philosopher and debater from the United States, Professor William Lane Craig, currently on a "Reasonable Faith" tour of Britain.

The latest British atheistic philosopher to be so accused is Polly Toynbee, Guardian Columnist and president of the British Humanist Association. According to reports, Toynbee had earlier accepted to debate the American Research Professor of Philosophy at the Talbot School of Theology, California on the existence of God and the debate had been scheduled to hold at the Westminster Central Hall in October. But early in the month Ms. Toynbee announced that she had changed her mind about her decision. According to Ms. Toynbee:

'I hadn’t realised the nature of Mr Lane Craig’s debating style, and, having now looked at his previous per­formances, this is not my kind of forum.'

And in response to Toynbee's apparent "chickening out," Professor William Craig commented:

'These are academic forums, where one con­centrates on the arguments and counter-arguments, the truth of the premises in those arguments and objections to them, and not on personality or ad hominem attacks.'

Professor Craig, who has gained reputation as a formidable debater, has debated Atheists such as Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris ;and Sam Harris is reported to have said of Craig:

'The one Christian apologist who has put the fear of God into many of my fellow atheists.'

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“Craig has, however, found an atheist willing to debate him in the person of Dr. Peter Atkins, former Professor of Chemistry at Oxford. Craig will also be debating Professor Peter Millican, an atheist and Professor of Philosophy at Hertford College, Oxford University. Professor Richard Dawkins has also been invited to debate Craig in Oxford on 25 October, and the organizers have said that if Dawkins declines the invitation Craig will lecture on the weaknesses in the arguments Dawkins presented in his bestseller The God Delusion.”
http://www.goddiscussion.com/73592/american-c...
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Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>I just love it when you idiots haul out the poster board, colored streamers and spotlights, and start making up signs to point out, that there is a big empty spot between your ears.

Ladies and gentlemen, KJV would like you to all acknowledge his total absence of a point. Please join me in applauding his attempt to construct a religion out of nothing. Damn what a fail. Hey KJV, at least start with a concept. You know like Christainity did, copy some Pagan stuff. But be warned we may not be as easy bent as you lot were.
Atheist is a Religion.

Religion

Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion

faith\ˈfāth\
noun

b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof

Atheism

Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.

Hence - Atheism = Religion
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derek4 wrote:
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Your post is so ignorant that it's actually funny. Thanks for trying.
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No its true, God does not answer prayer. Why should he? After all. All Christians are doing by praying is saying "God, you are wrong. DOnt do what you are doing. Do what I want instead." Cant you see how blasphemous that is? Think about it.
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derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>That's the best way – atheists present nothing new to the forum. Funny how much work they spend on posts that go nowhere – if I'm not too busy once a week or so, I read some of their longer posts, but invariably, I see nothing worthwhile, and I wonder why I wasted my time – so I then go back to my usual skim & skip, lol.--- I sometimes just click “go to last page”, but I really don't like to do that unless I'm in a big hurry, because I don't want to miss your posts or posts of other Christians. Keep up your good work against the atheist minorities.
Thank you and I enjoy you posts of facts. Keep it up buddy!
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faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
That describes Christians perfectly. They believe stuff without evidence, and ignore evidence which contradicts their beliefs.

Where we differ is the free thinkers here are critical of supernatural claims, and question bizarre claims and magical thinking. That is how to think rationally.

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KJV wrote:
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Atheist is a Religion.
Religion
Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.
Hence - Atheism = Religion
Does that mean I also belong to the Church of AntiUnicornians?

Because, even though I can't prove it, I don't believe unicorns are real.

We'll wait.
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Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>Does that mean I also belong to the Church of AntiUnicornians?

Because, even though I can't prove it, I don't believe unicorns are real.

We'll wait.
http://www.livescience.com/3980-mystery-unico...

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I don't click on random links. Answer the question or concede.

“I Am No One Else”

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KJV wrote:
Oh, now you accept evolution.

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I'd rather forgotten how angry and spiteful these christians are. I don't get why though, I mean they believe they are the special, chosen people, shouldn't that make them happy?
Oh, they're bitter and twisted lot alright; frothing at the mouth with bile and invective.

They're never happy, they're far too busy spreading the bigotry and hatred of the Bible.

Finally, did I say that every single one of them is terrified of their god?

No?

Alright then - Every single one of them is terrified of their god.

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It's nice that you feel the need to help your other friends through the piles of anti atheist articles and facts. One would think that they would know on there own by now just how to scroll.
Well I guess you know the crowd you hang with better then me. LOL
At least I don't need to tell Christians how to use their computers.
And you think you're the bright ones!
What do you call a room full of Atheist?
(Kindling)
What's the difference between Jesus and a picture of Jesus?

You only need one nail to hang up a picture of Jesus.

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So you admit the best argument you have is Darwin's mythology and fraudulent science. I can see why you would see yourself in a sorry state of affairs. Thanks for admitting it.
Unfortunately for you, the evidence for Evolution is something you can only dream about.

You can deny evolution if you like but then you can also say the moon is made of cheese.

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Geopolitics and Bible Prophecy
“What does the world’s largest natural gas company, a tiny Jewish nation in the Middle East, and an ancient Bible prophecy all have in common? We’re not quite sure yet, but recent headlines indicate there’s something awry off Israel’s coast.
...“Russia will lead a coalition of nations into the mountains of Israel for the purposes of “spoil and plunder”(Ezekiel 38:12 NASV). God draws the invaders into Israel, but He uses the wealth of Israel to do it.
This leaves us with a very important question: What does Israel have that Russia wants? God only knows what this future plunder will be, but there are many plunder-worthy things Israel has that Russia would like to own.
First, Israel is a strategic gem in the Middle East. Situated along the Suez Canal and the Red Sea, Israel has access to two very important waterways. Throughout history, anyone controlling the tiny strip of land, formerly known as the Levant, controlled the region. Israeli Ports such as Haifa and Eilat would instantly give Russia access to the world’s most important oil-rich waterways.
Secondly, Israel is of inestimable worth politically. Sacred to three of the world’s most influential religions, Israel has been the coveted prize of countless zealots, armies, and empires. Securing Jerusalem for Islam would give Russia endless clout in the Muslim world. Russia’s Iranian pals would shower endless praise on the great Slavic conquerors.”
http://blogs.christianpost.com/geopolitics-an...
IANS said that you don't understand your own posts.

He speaks the truth.

Here's what your scripture actually says...

"to capture spoil and to seize plunder, to turn your hand against the waste places which are now inhabited, and against the people who are gathered from the nations, who have acquired cattle and goods, who live at the center of the world."

Ezekiel 38:12

New American Standard Bible

No mention of Russia there.

Neither is there any mention of Russia in any other verses.

You know the baby Jesus doesn't like it when you lie. No wonder he turned to drink.

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derek4 wrote:
“Atheists are quick to point out that throughout history large numbers of people were killed in the name of Religion; but they fail to mention the countless millions who were killed by leaders who were driven by a hatred for God and Religion.
Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead
Mao-Tse-Tung, Atheist: 40 million plus dead
Pol Pot, Atheist: 2 million dead
Kim-Il-Sung, Atheist: 5 million dead
Fidel Castro, Atheist: 1 million dead
“The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression, published by Harvard University Press, is the work of eleven scholars that ignited a continental firestorm when it first hit bookstores in France in 1997. The authors estimate the century’s death toll at the hands of Communist governments (excluding wars) at 100 million people.”
http://christianwatchman.wordpress.com/2011/1...
He missed out your god who you freely admit has killed more than anyone.

I also notice he didn't have Adolf Hitler on that list. Must be because the author knows that Hitler was a Christian.

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derek4 wrote:
The earth's shape is a spheroid
Although the earth's shape is technically an ellipsoid, its major and minor axes do not vary greatly. In fact, its shape is so close to a sphere that it is often called a spheroid rather than an ellipsoid.
Although a spheroid best represents the earth's shape, the earth is sometimes treated as a sphere to make mathematical calculations easier.
http://www.geo.hunter.cuny.edu/~jochen/GTECH2...
[The Bible teaches the earth is a sphere too, but the Bible doesn't waste as much time babbling on and on about it as scientists do. The Bible keeps things direct and to the point, not wasting time with endless chatter about these small matters.]
I can't help but notice your failure to cite the scripture that describes the earth as a sphere. Perhaps that's because there isn't one and you're lying for the baby Jesus again.

Given the Bible's ratio for Pi, this is hardly surprising. Your god has some pretty funny ideas about what a sphere is.

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