Don't dictate beliefs

Don't dictate beliefs

There are 11178 comments on the The Star Press story from Sep 5, 2012, titled Don't dictate beliefs. In it, The Star Press reports that:

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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#6172 Nov 18, 2012
oh, hey everyone - good news fer 'ya:

I found an atheist Thanksgiving prayer for the faithful atheists, lol:

"Dear Global Economy, we thank thee for thy economies of scale, thy professional specialization, and thy international networks of trade under Ricardo's Law of Comparative Advantage, without which we would all starve to death while trying to assemble the ingredients for such a dinner as this. Amen."
http://lesswrong.com/lw/wa/thanksgiving_praye...

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#6173 Nov 18, 2012
Here's another atheist Thanksgiving prayer from an upstanding, honorable atheist:

“Bless, O Lord this food that it may be an effective and salutary remedy for mankind. In other words, please let all of the nutrients contained in this food be as effective as possible in my digestion system. Don’t let it give me diarrhea, food poisoning, or any sort of general discomfort. Thank you for giving me this food while you let countless others starve to death around the world. For Thy name's sake, grant that all who partake of this food may obtain health of body, safety of soul, fattening of ass, and one million dollars in cash. Through Christ our Lord whom you sent on a suicide mission over two thousand years ago, Amen, Awoman, Achild, Adwarf, Amidget, A6pack, Ahellyeah, and Apartridge-in-a-pear-tree.”
http://www.atheistnexus.org/profiles/blogs/a-...

[That atheist probably participates in the well known “smut 4 smut” campaign. Isn't he a great example for our children? Doesn't he show true style? Who could resist such a delightful person? Do atheists ever wonder why they are despised?]

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#6174 Nov 18, 2012
Awww – this “pore” atheist is having a “tough” time for the holiday:

“Thanksgiving is a tough holiday for the thoughtful non-theist. For a non-theist with progressive values, it’s difficult not to view it with utter disdain. It is at once a distillation of the privilege of religious insinuation into public life, and the glorification of materialism and selfishness. Despite this fact, Thanksgiving has become for me a symbol of hope for the future. It is the embodiment of what American society could become if compassion and comeraderie became synonymous with culture.”
http://livinglifewithoutanet.wordpress.com/20...

[“utter disdain”- nothing to be thankful for, pore thang.....]

[“hope for the future”???- what future?“The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out”...]
Nikki

Haacht, Belgium

#6175 Nov 18, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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Secular Christmas carols?
“carol: joyful religious song celebrating the birth of Christ.”
There are secular Christmas SONGS.
I can see your difficulties in being a teacher. LMAO
The only thing you're going to respond to is a language mistake I made because English is my third language, really?

I think I'm done feeding the troll.

Since: Mar 11

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#6176 Nov 18, 2012
He's a reject anyways he thinks Noah's all Jewish family gave birth to all the races on earth in just 100 years! Lmfao!

Not to mention people were singing joyous gospel choir songs to Hercules in glorious temples centuries before they did so to Jesus.

He also admitted he has a very creepy fetish for nursing home women.:shudder:
Nikki wrote:
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The only thing you're going to respond to is a language mistake I made because English is my third language, really?
I think I'm done feeding the troll.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6177 Nov 18, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Lol
Yes, me old china, I remember you mentioning it.
And there's another. Thanks.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6178 Nov 18, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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Lol
That particular punishment was invented by Christians.
Mind you, the "sectioned" I was referring to may well be another example of British slang.
It refers to Sections 2 & 3 of the Mental Health Act 1983 which gives hospitals the right to detain people against their will for psychiatric treatment.
If you're "sectioned" it means that you're placed in a secure psychiatric unit for observation and treatment.
In American slang, that's a 5150:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6179 Nov 18, 2012
Khatru wrote:
If he is a Catholic priest ... there's a strong chance he'll be familiar with rectal bleeding in altarboys.
Ah yes! The "No Child's Behind Left" program.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6180 Nov 19, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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Secular Christmas carols?
“carol: joyful religious song celebrating the birth of Christ.”
There are secular Christmas SONGS. I can see your difficulties in being a teacher. LMAO
They're carols, you lying thief. Here are four dictionaries that say so:

[1] Google dictionary: "A religious folk song or popular hymn, particularly one associated with Christmas: "singing Christmas carols around the tree."

[2] Free Online Dictionary: "1. A song of praise or joy, especially for Christmas."

[3] Merriam-Webster Dictionary: "1: an old round dance with singing
2: a song of joy or mirth <the carol of a bird — Lord Byron> "

[4] DictionaryDOTcom: "1.a song, especially of joy. 2.a Christmas song or hymn."

What won't you Christians lie about? What don't you try to steal for yourselves? What misinformation won't you spread? Your ethics have been skillfully deformed by your church.

Nothing from you or your miserable church can be trusted or taken at face value. Absolutely nothing.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#6181 Nov 19, 2012
I think Derek latched onto the subject of Christmas carols, because last week, I mentioned to him that I enjoy singing Christmas carols. To him, this made me some sort of hypocrite.

I have deconverted as a christian, but do not wish to avoid Christmas festivities, just because its based on myth. If Christmas grinches present hate christmasgood for them. Bah humbug!
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#6182 Nov 19, 2012
derek4 wrote:
“Thanksgiving is a tough holiday for the thoughtful non-theist.
Again no harm in enjoying festivities in a secular manner. btw Derek, have you ever thought it odd to need to thank an all powerful deity.

Think about it. Why would God need constant praise, adulation and thanks. Do theists believe God has a weak ego?

If he is all knowing, then he would already no you were grateful, so no need to thank him. If he is a perfect being then he will do the right thing, regardless of whatever magical incantations are directed towards him.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6183 Nov 19, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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You've made many foolish observations, haven't you Khatru? You didn't realize Noah and his family made up 100% of the population
Noah is a fictional character and made up no part of any population ever. That's another "fib" from you Christians. Here's how we know:

[1] A wooden boat made to bible specifications would have broken in half with the first three foot wave.

[2] A wooden boat that size without a rudder would founder and sink with the first set of five foot waves. The largest ships made of wood, by teams of shipbuilders, using better technology have been no longer than 300 feet. The Santa Maria was only 75 feet long. Genesis 6:15 puts the ark at 450 feet. It would be impossible for a ship this size to be made seaworthy, especially in light of the technology and the building team.

[3] There was only one hatch - in the top. How did they muck out the manure of five million species of animals?

[4] Once the salt water receded, where was the vegetation necessary for life? What did the carnivores eat until the planet was repopulated? How did the animals get back to their habitats without food or fresh water?

[5] What did the meat-eaters eat? Every time Noah fed the lions or the tigers,*poof*- another species of animal goes extinct.

[6] There is not enough water on the earth, to flood all the mountains, as specified in the Bible.

[7] If it did rain enough water [magic?] to cover all the mountains in only forty days, the rainfall would be as dense as actual water - like being in a waterfall, which would have destroyed Noah's wooden boat in minutes.

[8] Noah did not bring trees on board. Trees die when drowned. Once Noah opened his boat, he would have seen nothing but deadwood and mud. All the herbivores would starve within days.

[9] If the human race descended from Noah and his sons, we would see a genetic bottleneck in the human genome roughly 4,000 years back. Do we see this? No.

[10] The population of the world is too high if all humanity came from only four breeding pairs a few thousand years ago.

[11] A 450 foot boat could not hold two or seven or whatever of every species. The number and variation of species of insects alone-- would have filled up the ark, hundreds of times over.

[12] Why are there ancient civilizations with continuous histories dating back to long before the generation of Noah? China and the Egyptians have such continuous histories, with no world sterilizing flood in them.

[13] Cave paintings in Europe are drawn in Charcoal. Immersion in water would have erased them. These are 15,000 years and older.

[14] If there were a global flood, you would see a universal, world-wide layer of compressed mud dating the that time. This is not the case.

[15] Putting enough fresh water into the salt oceans to cover the mountains, would dilute it to dangerous levels killing all marine life

[16] The number and variation of species of insects alone would have filled up the ark hundreds of times over. The number and variation of bird species including unique species from all the islands, would have filled up the ark multiple times over.

[17] How did animals get from Australia to the ark, or from the ark back to Australia? The animals living there now go back to prehistoric times, and most are unique to that continent. Koalas require special diets. How did Mr and Mrs Koala carry their food with them all the way from Australia?

Your bible is a fraud.

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#6184 Nov 19, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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Your “love” for that pore thang who passed away in your family was so touching. Worms are burrowing in and out of her / his the eye sockets as I write. But they are doing it respectfully, lol. And they're just doing what they do – as honestly as they can – they don't know how to be corrupt like you.
What do you think worms and insects eat?

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#6185 Nov 19, 2012
derek4 wrote:
From an atheist about Thanksgiving [lol]:
"I feel sorry for atheists on Thanksgiving. They have no one to thank."
Thanksgiving is a pagan ritual.

Thanks for participating.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#6186 Nov 19, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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Thanksgiving is a pagan ritual.
Thanks for participating.
I consider Thanksgiving the same as Columbus day. Celebrating genocide.

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#6187 Nov 19, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>I consider Thanksgiving the same as Columbus day. Celebrating genocide.
Have a heaping helping of Smallpox. Don't forget the dressing.

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#6188 Nov 19, 2012
Nikki wrote:
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The only thing you're going to respond to is a language mistake I made because English is my third language, really?
I think I'm done feeding the troll.
Well, Nikki, your “food” was no good. It had no substance – kind of like aspartame.

Hint to you: If you want to make a point, avoid the use of the word “carol” when describing secular Christmas songs. Carol is generally used when writing about religious hymns.“Jingle Bells” isn't thought of as a “carol”.

"Jingle Bells" would be a great Christmas song for ding-a-ling atheists, lol.

What can children learn from a teacher like you who has no substance?

You need to resign.

LOL – by the way, I didn't ask you to respond to me in the first place, and you didn't drop any pearls worthy of comment.

Adios, LMAO.

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#6189 Nov 19, 2012
Adam wrote:
I think Derek latched onto the subject of Christmas carols, because last week, I mentioned to him that I enjoy singing Christmas carols. To him, this made me some sort of hypocrite.
I have deconverted as a christian, but do not wish to avoid Christmas festivities, just because its based on myth. If Christmas grinches present hate christmasgood for them. Bah humbug!
You made yourself a hypocrite. Other than that, nothing special about you - just plain old barnyard trash, lol.

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#6190 Nov 19, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>I consider Thanksgiving the same as Columbus day. Celebrating genocide.
Who cares what you think, really?

One reason I post from sources I link to (instead of just offering my own opinions) is because the material I find offers a variety of opinions that represent the points I wish to make, or a different point than am making, in which case I explain along with the link. Also, some links are from science and credible news sources, and contain indisputable facts that can be checked out, and compared, instead of just my own personal opinion.

On the other hand, most atheists in this forum post with a lot of one liners and simple minded insults that all come from the same mold, lol. Basically, what they do is sit at their computers, pick their boogers with one hand, and post garbage-in-garbage-out that says nothing, lol.

Besides - who really cares what YOU personally, or any of your brain-dead counterparts in here really think? I mean – who in the hell are you? LOL - we don't know you and you've established no credibility; nothing worthy of mention erupts from you.

All of it's just blah, blah, blah on a page, which I skim and skip. If you only knew how much I don't even bother to skim - LMAO.

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#6191 Nov 19, 2012
From an atheist:

“Many Atheists are Hypocrites about Morality”

“During the Q&A following my talk at UCSD, a young Christian woman asked,“Without God, how can you have any morality?”

The mostly skeptical audience laughed, as if it was a stupid question. Geez, not that again.

Well, it’s not a stupid question. Is a very good, important, difficult question.

I reminded the audience that many atheistic philosophers agree with the assumption of her question. They agree that without God there are no objective moral facts. In fact, one-third of philosophers think there are no objective moral facts. That’s no laughing matter.”
http://commonsenseatheism.com/...

[So even some atheists admit it – except for those in this forum, who are the worst hypocrites of all.]

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