Don't dictate beliefs

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No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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#6068 Nov 17, 2012
The Atheist Agenda

“Atheist Agenda is a student organization at the University of Texas at San Antonio. We emphasize all forms of free-thinking and vehement questioning of religion. Follow us on Twitter @AtheistAgenda! Want more info? Just ask, we don't bite.”
http://atheist-agenda.tumblr.com/

[Yeah, take a look at their website – aren't they a classy, reputable looking bunch? Not really .....they look like loan sharks and used car dealers, porno stars, etc. LMAO]

Since: Aug 12

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#6069 Nov 17, 2012
20th Century Iniquity
Christian Church allies itself with Fascism; opposes advances of science & personal freedom
1907 Pius X condemns Modernism in the decree Lamentabili and the encyclical Pascendi.
Hitler, a Roman Catholic, is never excommunicated for causing the death of millions; whereas Martin Luther was excommunicated for criticism of the papal system.
21st Century Menace
Churches the Stalking Ground of Paedophiles & Sex Offenders
On March 12, 2000 Pope John Paul II attempted to purify the soul of the Catholic Church by apologising for 2000 years of "sins" committed by the church – quite some compensation for twenty centuries of terrorism, extortion and murder!
And yet – September 2000 – the same John Paul II issues "Dominus Jesus (Lord Jesus)", reaffirming intolerance: "Only one path to God – the Roman Catholic Church."
derek4 wrote:
Challenging the New Atheists
“Nearly thirty years ago John Lennon sang the song,“Imagine.”
continued:
“Would the world be a better place if faith in God was eliminated? Many atheists now think so. Richard Dawkins states,“Imagine with John Lennon, a world with no religion. Imagine, no suicide bombers, no 9/11, no 7/7, no Crusades, no witch-hunts, no Gunpowder Plot, no Indian partition, no Israeli/Palestinian wars, no Serb/Croat/Muslim massacres, no persecution of Jews as ‘Christ killers’, no Northern Ireland ‘troubles’, no honour killings’, no shiny-suited bouffant-haired televangelists fleecing gullible people of their money (‘God wants you to give till it hurts’). Imagine no Taliban to blow up ancient statues, no public beheadings of blasphemers, no flogging of female skin for the crime of showing one inch of it.” The goal of the new atheists is to rid the world of belief in God or religion and replace it with reason and science. The new atheists believe that religions that embrace a belief in God, particularly Christianity, are not just irrational but dangerous and therefore must be extinguished.”
continued:
“The new atheists are not presenting new arguments but instead they are promoting their ideas very aggressively with strong, confrontational, and condemning language.”
continued:
“A significant point that the new atheists do not mention is the destructive consequences of atheist philosophies. Nietzsche predicted that the death of God would lead to a moral relativism which would result in blood in the streets.{11} Communism has lead to the death of millions in the twentieth century. Millions were put to death under the regimes of Marx, Pol Pot, and Mao Tse Tung.”
http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.576...
[“The goal of the new atheists is to rid the world of belief in God or religion and replace it with reason and science.”]
There's that word science again.... better described as FRAUDULENT SCIENCE.]

Since: Aug 12

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#6070 Nov 17, 2012
Christians get a lot of mileage out of the aphorism of 'turning the other cheek', a sentiment originating at least as early as Pythagoras in the fifth century BC. Yet both in theory and in practice, Christians have honoured the principle of murdering their opponents. The word, it seems, came from the very top. Apparently Jesus himself said:

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." – Luke 19.27

(Not the word of the Lord? Oh yes it is!)

The Christian Heaven may have been a vain folly but the Christian Hell was real enough. For more than a thousand years sadists in the uniform of Christ terrorised and brutalised a continent and then exported that terror to the four corners of the globe.

The Church, which, with a satanic twist of humour, claimed to be the instrument of 'Christ's loving kindness', taught a brutalised and impoverished people new meanings to the words pain and suffering...

For those who dared to be different:

Incarceration – starvation – psychological torment and terror – laceration – mutilation strangulation – suffocation – crushing – choking – burning – garrotting
slow and agonizing death.

Since: Aug 12

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#6071 Nov 17, 2012
Loving Your Neighbour?– Killing Your Opponents!
"The list of religious atrocities committed in the sacrosanct name of Christ is long and varied ...
In proof of this, witness the gibbets, the wheels, the massacres, and the horrible burnings at the stake of nearly a hundred thousand human beings in a single province -
the massacres and devastations of nine mad crusades of Christians against unoffending Turks, during nearly two hundred years; in which many millions of human beings perished-
the massacre of the Anabaptists-
the massacres of the Lutherans and Papists, from the Rhine to the extremities of the north-
the massacres in Ireland, England, and Scotland, in the time of Charles the First, who was himself massacred-
the massacres ordered by Henry the Eighth and his daughter Mary-
the massacres of St. Bartholomew in France; and forty years more of other massacres between the time of Francis the First, and the entry of Henry the Fourth into Paris

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#6072 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>
What difference does it make what he meant? Is he a scientist? No. He's just a ranting atheist. Do you depend on him to let you know how you are to believe? What does science tell you about global warming? You don't ever research these matters to learn about them for yourself?
We all know what your definition of a scientist is:

Someone who checks the Bible to see whether the data fits the world view of barbaric late Iron Age goat herders.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6073 Nov 17, 2012
Khatru wrote:
What a great run of posts from IANS, Thoughtful, clear and eloquent. Everything Derek's posts aren't. It's also noticeable that the majority of Derek's posts are cut and paste jobs which are indicative of a mind that can't think for itself. Contrast that with the majority of IANS posts which are indicative of a mind that's free of superstition and mumbo jumbo and is most definitely thinking for itself.
Thank you very kindly. I really appreciate your feedback.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#6074 Nov 17, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>As are you, according to your own words.
Not as much a failure as you are, sir.

“Reason's Greetings!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#6075 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>
What difference does it make what he meant? Is he a scientist? No. He's just a ranting atheist. Do you depend on him to let you know how you are to believe? What does science tell you about global warming? You don't ever research these matters to learn about them for yourself?
You are just a clueless, robotic spammer whose posts reflect your inablility to use science and reason, much less any kind of research. You are also reflective of the premise of the orignnal post of this thread: "Don't dictate beliefs....No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly." You like your other annoying, parasitic trolls have been epic failures in everything you've tried to accomplish here.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6077 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
“The Atheist Agenda is an organization founded in 2005 by a group of atheist and agnostic students and teachers from the The University of Texas at San Antonio. The group is dedicated to the philosophy of free thought, as well as promoting aggressive activism against theology and theological institutions, encouraging non-believers to take pride in their history and community, and providing to them the same fellowship that those of a religious background share.
That sounds terrific. I admire activism against the church, especially if it is aggressive. Is there a place I can make a charitable contribution? I'd like to help finance a billboard ad.

I think "Science rules, Jesus drools" would probably be vandalized. Likewise with "Are you borin' again? If so, STFU." or "Prays the Lowered" with a picture of somebody groveling in prayer. What do you think? Which do you like best?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6078 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Note the references to religion:“ providing to them the same fellowship that those of a religious background share”
Sorry, but I missed the religious reference there. All I see is the word "fellowship," which has nothing to do with religion. I use the word frequently to refer to what freethinkers do on Topix:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

BTW, did you get that new dictionary that I advised you to purchase? If the priests have all your money, you can still get free access to dictionaries on the Internet, like the one that defines fellowship this way:

"Fellowship - 1. Friendly association, esp. with people who share one's interests. 2. A group of people meeting to pursue a shared interest or aim."

Where's Jesus in that definition? Oh, Jesus! Where are you! Come out wherever you are!

Incidentally, you contrasted atheist with "those of a religious background," which is poorly worded, since many if not most of us have a religious background. You meant to contrast atheists with those with a religious foreground, meaning the presently religious.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#6079 Nov 17, 2012
He seems to think by bashing scientists by laughingly using other scientists ironically, this proves deities exist? Bottom line one can bash science all day and it still hasn't touched atheism because it still shows no proof for the existence of deities.
I am glad more and more people are turning away from the superstitious ways of the past. I am an optimist about the future.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, my friend.
I hope that what comes through is the contrast between Christianity, which he represents here, and humanism,my philosophy. His fund of knowledge is so underdeveloped, his judgment so poor, his psyche so dark, his worldview so primitive, his ethics so shabby, and his spirit so small.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6080 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
WE DON'T WANT ATHEIST AGENDA
You're living in America now, correct? If that's how you feel, you should think about leaving. Do you know who else hates atheists? Saudi Arabia and Iran. You'll likely find kindred spirits there, where the atheist agenda is kept at bay using stones, hand amputations and beheadings.
derek4 wrote:
Christians became enemies of the state
You're enemies of the US Constitution. And you damage the nation in any way you can if it supports your church. I'd call you enemies of the people.
derek4 wrote:
A tiny handful of churches remained open for propaganda purposes.
We know what churches are for.
derek4 wrote:
The Russian people suffered under the tyranny of atheistic communism.
Not as much as they did under Christian tyranny. That provoked them to revolution.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6081 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
People of faith suffer when godless atheism has the reins.
This will delight you and nauseate the rest of us:

"Inquisition Torture Tools Of The Vatican"
&fe ature=related
derek4 wrote:
the Coalition of American Atheists meets ... They have an agenda. They're bedfellows with the American Civil Liberties Union, whose ultimate goal ... is the abolition of prayer and Bible reading from public institutions, the removal of "In God We Trust" from our currency and the deposition of all Bible inscriptions from government buildings.
Do you have a link? I'd like to contribute to that as well.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6082 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Nativities would be a crime against the state, as would the posting of the Ten Commandments.
Nonsense. Do whatever you like ... on YOUR property. Nail the scary chicken to the stick and shake it at the moon if that's what grounds and centers you. Just don't do it on public property or using public funds, because with irreligiosity growing so fast, and freethinkers becoming so emboldened, somebody's likely to insert the scary chicken beak first up your colon. I don't condone that for a moment. But I understand.
derek4 wrote:
The Humanist Manifesto would reign over God and the Bible, and America would fall under the control of godless atheism.”
"God"? As if.

The neutering of your church can't come soon enough. Your religion's cultural hegemony can't fade fast enough.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#6083 Nov 17, 2012
All one has to remember with that reject is she first made these posts saying she had an uncurable disease with less then a year to live. When I pointed out as all the sympathy well wishers jumped in, with less then a year to live the last thing any same person would be doing is waste time on topix! She immediately says, oh I was cured already right after she thanked posters for their sympathy and how words cannot express how difficult end of life diseases like hers are. Whamo she is healed that fast!

Wow! Amazing! Praise Jewsus! Lol!
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Not as much a failure as you are, sir.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#6084 Nov 17, 2012
Praise Santa!:)
swerty wrote:
I wish Christians would remember, if it wasn't for Santa Claus there wouldn't BE any fu king Christmas.
Dic kheads. <quoted text>

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6085 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
“In August, the atheist group Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), once again attempted to demonstrate its disdain for America’s godly heritage.
I found it myself this time: "GIVE A GIFT TO FFRF"
http://ffrf.org/get-involved/donate
derek4 wrote:
No matter how hard they try, God’s truth and light cannot be put out. The American people are rising up, young and old, and they see through the agendas and blatant attacks on America’s foundation.
I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you. Is there something wrong with your voice? It sounds very faint.
derek4 wrote:
[Atheists are horrible at making friends and influencing people, lmao.]
And you're so charming. How do you think you're doing at making friends and influencing people, oh clueless one?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#6086 Nov 17, 2012
derek4 wrote:
“The new atheists are ... promoting their ideas very aggressively with strong, confrontational, and condemning language.”
Ain't it great? It's only going to get more assertive as we grow in number and gain confidence that it's finally safe to speak. Many of us have a few words for you.
derek4 wrote:
[“The goal of the new atheists is to rid the world of belief in God or religion and replace it with reason and science.”]
Our goal is to get your religion out of our lives, not to rid the world of it. Once you have shrunken small enough to drown in a bathtub, we probably won't think of you again, just like the Druids. Did you realize that they are still around? Not too many posting on Topix, though. Wherever they are, they have no influence over the lives of anybody but other Druids, and only to whatever degree they allow it to influence them.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#6087 Nov 17, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you very kindly. I really appreciate your feedback.
You're very welcome - your posts always make for good reading.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#6088 Nov 17, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You're enemies of the US Constitution. And you damage the nation in any way you can if it supports your church. I'd call you enemies of the people.
It's ironic how Christians harp on about "enemies of the state" and being American.

Yet that bedrock of American society, the constitution, stops the lunatic Christians in their tracks.

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