Don't dictate beliefs

Sep 5, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Star Press

No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious." In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic."
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"Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population.[citation needed] It is difficult to determine whether atheism is growing or not"
Wikipedia :
"2005 poll by AP/Ipsos surveyed ten countries. Of the developed nations, people in the United States were most sure of the existence of God or a higher power (2% atheist, 4% agnostic)"
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"According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population"
2005? Did you have go that far back to find something relevant to your mistaken way of thinking? You could have just done what all the other religitards do. Make something up and lie. Even if it were true, theism is not just Christain, it is every bit of space cadet crap that can be imagined, even the guys who wait for the bus from outer space. Those are your theist!

100% of babies born to theist parents, are atheist.

100%.... we didn't lose them, we never had them, they are atheist at birth. That means without theism, it does not mean non believer, even those infants are non believers too.

Being the children of theist, they will be indoctrinated to whatever invisible magic friend mind fantasy their parents play at.

There are many thousands of theistic bents, that the theist parents could be indoctrinating their children into. You go ahead and claim them all for the loon side, the worship of any and every god from Achelois to Zeus, from Kali to Beelzebub, they all make up that ever shrinking percentage, they are the vanishing theist.

Once upon a time, all these gods were believed in, and now it's only a tiny percentage, that are left, with even a few believers. >>> godchecker.com

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You flatter yourself.
Christians don't what your azz in heaven! We don't want to save you from yourself. We just want junk science stopped.
That might work out better for you, if you took your agenda to the science forum, and btw, tablets, smart phones, ipads, pcs, and even keyboards are proof that science is getting it right.

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Oh look at the Snake Boy puppet is back! LOL
Snake boy learn the English language.
Atheist is a Religion.
Religion
Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.
Hence - Atheism = Religion
Atheist = not theist!
"A" means not.

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Oh look at the Snake Boy puppet is back! LOL
Snake boy learn the English language.
Atheist is a Religion.
Religion
Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion
faith\ˈfāth\
noun
b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof
Atheism
Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.
Hence - Atheism = Religion
Why do you think that you need us in your faith and religion boat? Do you want to be like us? If so you are still going at it the wrong way, but keep trying, you may get it right after a few thousand or so more tries.

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Oh ok. LOL
You had 100% of the human population
You now have 2.3% of the human population.
Who's getting their azz kicked?
We had 0% and now have 97.7% of the human population.
Who's winning?
Drink the koolaid kid!
Dolt!
"According to one 2005 estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population" OK, so where is the data that proves that, and who did the one estimate?

That >>> one <<< estimate, you first laud and then try to use it as established fact. Well it don't work that way. It is not established fact.

So let's look again at your own source, wiki ......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion
"It has been estimated that 16% of the world population (1.1 billion people) are " non-religious" and on the same page "Some evidence suggests that the fastest growing religious status in the United States is "no religion". And it goes on to say that it may be 40 - 50% now.

and

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12799801

Mar 20, 2011 ... Nearly two-thirds of people do not regard themselves as "religious", a new survey carried out to coincide with the 2011 Census suggests.

That would be 66%.

and

www.amazon.com/Good-Without-God-Billion-Nonre... ...-Good Without God: What a Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe [Greg Epstein]

Good Without God: What a Billion Nonreligious People Do ...

and BTW, "drink the koolaid' is all about the sheep following their shepherds instructions from the lord.

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"When you put "A" in front of a word, it means "without "
Not seeing it?
abridge\ə-ˈbrij\
transitive verb
1 a archaic : deprive
b : to reduce in scope : diminish <attempts to abridge the right of free speech>
2 : to shorten in duration or extent <modern transportation that abridges distance>
3 : to shorten by omission of words without sacrifice of sense : condense
synonyms see shorten
Other forms: abridged; abridg·ing
abridg·er noun
Examples
abridge a dictionary by omitting rare words
the library's hours have been drastically abridged to cut costs
bridge\ˈbrij\
noun
1 a : a structure carrying a pathway or roadway over a depression or obstacle
b : a time, place, or means of connection or transition
2 : something resembling a bridge in form or function: as
a : the upper bony part of the nose; also : the part of a pair of glasses that rests upon it
b : a piece raising the strings of a musical instrument — see violin illustration
c : the forward part of a ship's superstructure from which the ship is navigated
d : gantry 2b
e : the hand as a rest for a billiards or pool cue; also : a device used as a cue rest
3 a : a musical passage linking two sections of a composition
b : a partial denture anchored to adjacent teeth
c : a connection (as an atom or group of atoms) that joins two different parts of a molecule (as opposite sides of a ring)
4 : an electrical instrument or network for measuring or comparing resistances, inductances, capacitances, or impedances by comparing the ratio of two opposing voltages to a known ratio
Willful blindness, and obdurate ignorance!

I suppose that you'd think that every "A" word would have to be the same in regards to how the "A" was to be used? So Alvin, Arthur, alphabet, arithmetic and avenue, can all be used as lvin, rthur, lphabet, rithmetic and venue?

So should we all be considered theist? We will just let you void out the "A", and it's meaning, we wouldn't want you to have to face the truth, now would we?

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Oh ok. LOL
You had 100% of the human population
You now have 2.3% of the human population.
Who's getting their azz kicked?
We had 0% and now have 97.7% of the human population.
Who's winning?
Drink the koolaid kid!
Dolt!
Even if what you said is true, it is a sad fact that the only reason you have such a high percentage is because your cults use child indoctrination, and brainwashing.

That's something to be proud of.
It's funny you use the kool-aid anology.

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Langoliers wrote:
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"When you put "A" in front of a word, it means "without "
Not seeing it?
abridge\ə-ˈbrij\
transitive verb
1 a archaic : deprive
b : to reduce in scope : diminish <attempts to abridge the right of free speech>
2 : to shorten in duration or extent <modern transportation that abridges distance>
3 : to shorten by omission of words without sacrifice of sense : condense
synonyms see shorten
Other forms: abridged; abridg·ing
abridg·er noun
Examples
abridge a dictionary by omitting rare words
the library's hours have been drastically abridged to cut costs
bridge\ˈbrij\
noun
1 a : a structure carrying a pathway or roadway over a depression or obstacle
b : a time, place, or means of connection or transition
2 : something resembling a bridge in form or function: as
a : the upper bony part of the nose; also : the part of a pair of glasses that rests upon it
b : a piece raising the strings of a musical instrument — see violin illustration
c : the forward part of a ship's superstructure from which the ship is navigated
d : gantry 2b
e : the hand as a rest for a billiards or pool cue; also : a device used as a cue rest
3 a : a musical passage linking two sections of a composition
b : a partial denture anchored to adjacent teeth
c : a connection (as an atom or group of atoms) that joins two different parts of a molecule (as opposite sides of a ring)
4 : an electrical instrument or network for measuring or comparing resistances, inductances, capacitances, or impedances by comparing the ratio of two opposing voltages to a known ratio
Thanks for confirming my point!!
That is another good example.

You really aren't very smart are you?

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No not at all, atheist believe God does not exist,Theist believe in one or more deities, agnostic would be the rest.
Another atheist lie. What a surprise. "NOT"
You are now the passive agnostic you try to keep painting yourself.
"A-theist" is literally "NOT-theist".

Theism/atheism deals with the question of belief.

Gnosticism/agnosticism deals with the question of knowledge.

You should learn word origins before you just starting making assumptions.

And I am more precisely an ignostic (yes, that is the correct spelling) Humanist.

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Do You think that census are done daily?
Weekly?
Monthly?
Please donate your body to science, your living proof of a living mindless entity.
LOL
Polls and surveys are completed at the very least yearly. There is much more current data available, but you knew that. You just liked the old data better, so in your typical dishonesty, you used that.

It's ok, we already knew you are a dishonest piece of worthless crap.

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This one might be posted twice, lmao
Who appointed you judge of the forum?
Atheists always say they're winning, lol, and they think they can proclaim victory even when there is rotten egg all over their puny faces, lol.
You're the biggest loser in any forum I've ever been in. Your posts aren't worth stopping to read. You're a fool.
So go get rid of the rest of your poop, douchebag. You're full of it.
LOL!!!

Look at the little girl stomp her little feet. LOL!!!!!
What's wrong Wimp Lo? Did someone else proclaim victory like you do??

First you ask "Who appointed you judge of the forum?", and than go on to pronounce all you weeny little judgements. ROTFLMAO!!!

You idiot theists never fail to fail!!! LOL!!!!!

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You hit the nail on the head. They are crying and miserable. Nothing more pitiful than old fools, sad and alone.
Oh look, Wimp Lo is talking to herself.

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Atheism is a religion. You lose again.
Now it's your turn to say the opposite.
When you're finished, it will be my turn to repeat myself.
We can keep this going about 8 years.
We can.
The difference is that if you ask anyone that studies language, they will agree with me, and laugh in your face.

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Atheists hate God.
Now it's your turn to say the opposite.
When you're finished, it will be my turn to repeat myself.
We can keep this going about 8 years.
Of course you would have to simply repeat what you said, as you have no way of backing it up.

I on the other hand can use common sense. A concept that is obviously not available to you.

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The Religion of Atheism
Some Atheists recoil at the claim that Atheism is a religion and consider the notion absurd. Many would consider Atheism the antithesis of religion. Maybe youve heard such remarks as,If Atheism is a religion then bald is a hair color.
[Poster's insert: Yes, we have Hedonist took credit for that without mentioning he grabbed it from a mold and without attributing it to the real author.]
It is a false analogy that asserts all religions are defined by a belief in a deity which we know is inaccurate because of such religions as Unitarian Universalists, Taoists or Buddhists.
Nonetheless, how is it that we can purchase The Good Book: A Humanist Bible that includes their own version of the Ten Commandments or attend The First Church of Atheism with services provided by an ordained Atheist minister but we cant buy a box of hair color called bald?
[LOL]
continued:
The New Atheism is placing faith in the belief that there is no God. Their belief system is based on science and philosophy. The New Atheists use this belief system to interpret and relate to the world around them, defining their worldview as an overall perspective of life and the universe.
Atheists are known to have their own prophets like Charles Darwin, Friedrich Nietzsche, Ludwig Feuerbach, Vladimir Lenin, Karl Marx, or Voltaire.
They have their own preachers such as Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Daniel Dennett among others. Through their work these men are aggressively seeking to convert others.
Atheists have orthodoxy as they believe everything is unintentional, uninspired happenstance
via evolution. They base their beliefs on the ever changing developments of scientific scrutiny.
[Yes, atheism is a religion...]
continued:
http://stevedeace.com/news/the-religion-of-at...
The New Atheism is placing faith in the belief that there is no God. Their belief system is based on science and philosophy.
[And they are very devout to their religion.]
Incorrectly assigning attributes to atheism does not make your silly claim true.

But hey, keep showing your ignorance and dishonesty. Maybe eventually no one will believe you and laugh at your childish ignorance. Oh wait, that's happening now isn't it? lmao

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Atheism is not a religion.
You lose again.
Maybe this will help you, lmao:

First Atheist Church of True Science explains why atheism is a religion.

Video in attached link is excerpt from an atheist sermon:

http://yourhappyplace.yuku.com/topic/54211/At...

[It's mostly all double talk- he's confused, as are most atheists - but the bottom line:atheism is a religion- he says it several times in his rambling rant, lol. So, there you have it from the very mouth of an atheist.]

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Atheism is a religion.

Atheists even have their own bible:

From CNN:

Leading atheist publishes secular Bible


The question arose early in British academic A.C. Graylings career: What if those ancient compilers whod made Bibles, the collected religious texts that were translated, edited, arranged and published en masse, had focused instead on assembling the non-religious teachings of civilizations greatest thinkers?

What if the book that billions have turned to for ethical guidance wasnt tied to commandments from God or any one particular tradition but instead included the writings of Aristotle, the reflections of Confucius, the poetry of Baudelaire? What would that book look like, and what would it mean?

Decades after he started asking such questions, what Grayling calls a lifetimes work has hit bookshelves.The Good Book: A Humanist Bible, subtitled A Secular Bible in the United Kingdom, was published this month. Grayling crafted it by using more than a thousand texts representing several hundred authors, collections and traditions.

The Bible would have been a very different book and may have produced a very different history for mankind, had it drawn on the work of philosophers and writers as opposed to prophets and apostles, says Grayling, a philosopher and professor at Birkbeck College, University of London, who is an atheist.

continued:

Determined to make his material accessible, Grayling arranged his nearly 600-page "Good Book" much like the Bible, with double columns, chapters (the first is even called Genesis) and short verses. And much like the best-selling King James Bible, which is celebrating its 400th year, his book is written in a type of English that transcends time.

Like the Bible, "The Good Book," opens with a garden scene. But instead of Adam and Eve, Grayling's Genesis invokes Isaac Newton, the British scientist who pioneered the study of gravity.

While many intellectual traditions religious and otherwise teach that theres one right way to live, Grayling says he hopes The Good Book will encourage people to go beyond your teachers, your text to understand that we have to respect and relate to one another.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/11/lead...

[His bible is the TRUE pink unicorn book of religious atheism; as false as all atheists are filled with nothing but myths, lies, and dishonesty. It tells us all we need to know of the sham of atheism.]

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Of course you would have to simply repeat what you said, as you have no way of backing it up.
I on the other hand can use common sense. A concept that is obviously not available to you.
Oh, I really don't have to repeat anything I said.

Here's something new fer 'ya, lol:

FROM: USA Today:

First Atheist Church of True Science explains why atheism is a religion.

Bonus: church founded by atheist lawsuit king Michael Newdow

http://www.fark.com/comments/6311079/First-At...

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Atheism is not a religion. All your sad wishful thinking will not change that.
My kids are atheists, and the youngest doesn't even know what evolution is.
So much for that stupid idea huh?
As for the idiotic comparision of the absence of color(As when refering to light), and the color of your old car.... It just shows how utterly ignorant you are. LMAO!!!!
You lose. Not only is atheism a religion, it is an organized religion with their own churches.

You need to familiarize yourself with atheism and their religion. Better educate your kiddos, too - after all, you don't want them to turn out as ignorant as you, lol.

First Church of Atheism:

With the First Church of Atheism you can become ordained quickly, easily, and at no cost.

As a legally ordained minister, you will be able to perform weddings, funerals, commitment ceremonies, and other functions that are reserved for members of clergy.

Get Ordained

Since its inception, the First Church of Atheism has amassed quite a following around the world. FCA ministers come from all walks of life. They are every race, ethnicity, age, and creed. The one thing binding every FCA minister is his or her belief in science, reason, and reality.

The First Church of Atheism wants you to pursue and cherish your realistic beliefs without interference from any outside agency, including government or church authority. We provide our service for free, as we believe it is every atheists right to perform these clergy functions.

You may become a legally ordained minister for life, without cost, and without question.

Donations are accepted but not expected. If we can raise enough money we can buy an actual church! Even a donation of $1 helps.

http://firstchurchofatheism.com/

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The Calgary Secular Church

What is The Calgary Secular Church?

The Calgary Secular Church is the good parts of the Christian church, without the bad. We are a small group of a-religious or atheist people who want the community and celebration we used to have in our Christian (or Mormon) churches, but reject the superstition and faith espoused by our former haunts.

We have no dogma, but we do have an ethical and moral framework (based largely on Adam's writings) that is robust but open to challenge. This is a subtle but powerful advantage over non-churched atheists. While free thought is recommended, some people have no interest in completely re-analyzing their moral framework every time they leave the house. That's fine. The CSC provides a place where people who want to be ethical can benefit from the work of others in this area, where every little thing doesn't become an ordeal of self-analysis. Let us stand on the shoulders of giants.

How We Operate

The CSC meets the first Sunday of every month. As we grow this may change. We are rather informal (our first meeting was in an Italian bakery), but not unstructured. Meetings will have an orderly and predictable progression.

What We Aspire To

The following remarks are taken from a speech I gave at our inaugural meeting. They reflect my own intentions for the church, and are subject to change or modification by the other participants as we get going. However, I hope they will play a large role in the CSC's future.

Today we are going to save the world.
http://bigthink.com/daylight-atheism/the-calg...

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