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No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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#2928 Oct 11, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>Actually bald is the absence of hair just like atheism is the absence of theism. Or to put it in words you might be able to understand - atheism is the absence of BELIEF in deities.

Langoliers wrote, "<quoted text>
Religion is faith, you believe with out proof that there is no God that is faith / Religion
"

Actually I just don't believe YOU when you make your unsubstantiated claims about gods.

Langoliers wrote, "<quoted text>
Believe with out proof is faith.
"

Actually belief without proof is what you do. I am waiting on some sort of evidence for you claim that your (or any other) god exists.

Langoliers wrote, "<quoted text>
You are a Preacher of the first church of Apes R Us. It's a small congregation, really small there are 4 time the number of Gays then there are Atheist. The Theist church has about 49 time more people then your church but stay with it you might hold you own and stop losing you congregation.
2.3%. Wow that's pretty low!
On Second thought give it up, you'll never amount to anything. "

Thank you for once again showing everybody the hate that is so common among Christians. You are a fine example of what it means to be a Christian.

(And you are wrong about your numbers - " http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1618445... ;)
"Actually belief without proof is what you do. I am waiting on some sort of evidence for you claim that your (or any other) god exists"

You believe that no God or Gods exist.
Yet you have no proof for that believe.
Therefore it's faith and faith is a religion.
Maybe not in the first one or second definition but its in the dictionary so like it or not it's a religion. Don't like it being a religion? Then show Proof of no God!
Other wise it's a religion.

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#2929 Oct 11, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists are deeply religious and faithful to their religion. Catch up, lol!
Shocking photo of atheist god captured:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ZfDZ57FY924XX
If you take their god away they cry like babies.
[No Santa Claus or pink unicorns were harmed in the making of this video.]
Atheism is not a religion.

You lose again.

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#2930 Oct 11, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Why do atheists hate God?
Recently, I have had a lot of conversations with atheists. Many express a strong hatred of God. I have been at a loss to explain this. How can you hate someone you dont believe in? Why the hostility? If God does not exist, shouldnt atheists just relax and seek a good time before they become plant food? Why should it matter if people believe in God? Nothing matters if atheism is true.
http://creation.com/atheist-god-hate
If God does not exist, shouldnt atheists just relax and seek a good time before they become plant food?
[SEEK A GOOD TIME? Naahhh.....they'd rather waste their time hating.]
Why do atheists hate god?

They don't. They simply don't believe in it.

Do you hate Santa?

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#2931 Oct 11, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>
I understood his point. He missed my sarcasm due to his stupidity, and you did the same, lol. I am well aware he does not worship the three little gods he named off. He (and you) worship the god of atheism, and you have faith in the religion of atheism.
The Religion Of Atheism
A person's religion is the sum total of his beliefs about God and the supernatural. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are the three largest "monotheistic" religions, with belief one God, Creator Of The Universe.
Some religions are "polytheistic," with belief in many gods, each with different functions.
Atheism is the religion whose belief about God is that there is no God.
Some Atheists, for their own political reasons, assert that Atheism is not a religion but instead is the total absence of religion. This allows them to spread their Atheistic beliefs freely in societies which insist on "separation of church and state."
But this is like saying that "black," (which physicists define as the total absence of color) is not a color. A few years ago, the car I drove was a big, old Chevrolet, whose color was black. In common practice throughout the world, "black" is understood to be a color, despite the technical definition of the physicists. Likewise, "Atheism" is a religion, despite any technical definitions to the contrary.
If black is a color, then Atheism is a religion.
[Poster's insert: Court rules atheism a religion
http://www.wnd.com/2005/08/31895/ ]
If Atheism is a religion, then it must be subject to the same legal restrictions imposed by governments on all other religions. In particular, in the United States, the teaching of Atheism must be prohibited wherever the teaching of Christianity is prohibited.
But where is Atheism being taught? Atheism is being taught, by default, in all places where other religions cannot be taught, particularly in the public schools.
[Poster's insert: This means atheists are dictating their religious beliefs in our schools.]
When the State mandates that the Theory of Evolution be taught as fact, that is establishing the religion of Atheism, because the Theory of Evolution asserts that all life forms are created not by God, but by pre-existing natural processes. This is pure Atheism! If we are not created by God, then there might as well be no God, for all the difference He makes.
The mere fact that many scientists are Atheists does not entitle them to establish Atheism as our State Religion!
When the State prohibits free discussion of God in the classroom, that is establishing the religion of Atheism. Wherever the State permits Atheistic ideas to be spread but prohibits Theistic ideas, that is establishing the religion of Atheism.
Therefore I urge you to understand clearly in your mind that Atheism is a religion, just as Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are religions. And any restrictions placed on Christianity, Judaism, or Islam must also be placed on Atheism. Atheism must not be allowed to slip through its little loophole any longer, by pretending it is not a religion.
http://patriot.net/~bmcgin/atheismisareligion...
Atheism is a religion.
Atheism is a statement of faith in science and the theory of evolution.
Object again if you wish, and my reply the second time will be to ignore you or copy and paste all the above right back to you, since there is nothing you can say that will change the facts as I've presented them, lol.
Atheism is not a religion. All your sad wishful thinking will not change that.

My kids are atheists, and the youngest doesn't even know what evolution is.

So much for that stupid idea huh?

As for the idiotic comparision of the absence of color(As when refering to light), and the color of your old car.... It just shows how utterly ignorant you are. LMAO!!!!

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#2932 Oct 11, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"Actually belief without proof is what you do. I am waiting on some sort of evidence for you claim that your (or any other) god exists"
You believe that no God or Gods exist.
Yet you have no proof for that believe.
Therefore it's faith and faith is a religion.
Maybe not in the first one or second definition but its in the dictionary so like it or not it's a religion. Don't like it being a religion? Then show Proof of no God!
Other wise it's a religion.
You are so ignorant it hurts to read your drivel.

Do you believe bigfoot exists?
How about wizards?
How about flying unicorns?

Do you have any proof that those thing do not exist?
Than I guess you have quite a few religions you follow!!!!

Does it hurt to be that stupid?

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#2933 Oct 11, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>Notice how they re-write dictionaries? Discredit stories on CBS NEWS, etc.?

Then they accuse Christians of dishonesty. They prove how their godlessness is full of lies and deceit, but they aren't even convincing deceivers.

Jokes!!!

LMAO
That's why they have lost 98.7% of there flock!

Lol

A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious." In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic."

Wikipedia:

"Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population.[citation needed] It is difficult to determine whether atheism is growing or not"

Wikipedia :

"2005 poll by AP/Ipsos surveyed ten countries. Of the developed nations, people in the United States were most sure of the existence of God or a higher power (2% atheist, 4% agnostic)"

Wikipedia :

"According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population"

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#2934 Oct 11, 2012
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>There was a time when people, as their religion, worshipped Zeus and Mars and Athena and so on.

That was their religion.

According to you, religion is not a myth.

So, according to you, the ancient gods Zeus and Mars and Athena are real?
Nope

Swing and a miss!

Religion is a Fact, deities may or may not be myths, no proof either way. Religion is the act of worshiping those deities. If just on person worshipped just one deity then religion would be a fact.
97.7% of the world population are Theist so can you connect the dots?

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#2935 Oct 11, 2012
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>So, again - according to you - anyone who believes without proof that there are no Unicorns has formed their own little religion (well, a pretty big one in this case...)

Where's the nearest "there aren't any Unicorns" church?
Swing and another miss!
Count is 0 and 2.

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#2936 Oct 11, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>100% of babies born to theist parents, are atheist.

100%.... we didn't lose them, we never had them, they are atheist at birth. That means without theism, it does not mean non believer, even those infants are non believers too.

Being the children of theist, they will be indoctrinated to whatever invisible magic friend mind fantasy their parents play at.

There are many thousands of theistic bents, that the theist parents could be indoctrinating their children into. You go ahead and claim them all for the loon side, the worship of any and every god from Achelois to Zeus, from Kali to Beelzebub, they all make up that ever shrinking percentage, they are the vanishing theist.

Once upon a time, all these gods were believed in, and now it's only a tiny percentage, that are left, with even a few believers. >>> godchecker.com
A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious." In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic."

Wikipedia:

"Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population.[citation needed] It is difficult to determine whether atheism is growing or not"

Wikipedia :

"2005 poll by AP/Ipsos surveyed ten countries. Of the developed nations, people in the United States were most sure of the existence of God or a higher power (2% atheist, 4% agnostic)"

Wikipedia :

"According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population"

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#2937 Oct 11, 2012
The laughing atheist wrote:
<quoted text>I have read some of your posts....
Not very impressive. You apppear to be a less intelligent version of Derek(not that he would be considered intelligent by any standard). Is every believer on this thread so incompetent that they can't even hold up their end of a conversation without resorting to purposely misdefining words, and demanding proof that something does NOT exist? I see you have added an appeal to the majority, which of course is a logical fallacy.

If this is the best that the theist world has to offer, atheism should be universally accepted in no time.
Well you not universally accepted.

A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious." In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic."

Wikipedia:

"Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population.[citation needed] It is difficult to determine whether atheism is growing or not"

Wikipedia :

"2005 poll by AP/Ipsos surveyed ten countries. Of the developed nations, people in the United States were most sure of the existence of God or a higher power (2% atheist, 4% agnostic)"

Wikipedia :

"According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population"

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#2938 Oct 11, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
derek4 the failed Creationist trying desperately to spam his religious bullsh*t in the forums.

Prove your god or f*ck off it's been that simple since the dawn of time.

You liars are getting boring this century.
Go away Skippy

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#2939 Oct 11, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>Did you and the laughable atheist come from the same momma? Your lack of common sense, and your manner of expression is about the same - and neither of you contribute anything to the forum except to make jokes of yourselves.

If you're stuck back in time, and you want to worship Zeus and Mars and Athena, feel free to do so – or just keep holding on to your godless faith in science with all it's frauds and misconduct, and embrace your atheistic religion – the choice is all yours, lol.
Derek
Look out the sock puppets are here.

LOL. What morons.

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#2940 Oct 11, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
The Christian church has no respect for Americanisms such as church-state separation. Their church only gives lip service to such ideas. Their first four Commandments command religious observance, and exclusively to the Christian god.

Christian philosophy is anti-American in spirit. The models of government are authoritarian: the god over man, and the man of the house over his wife and children. There is no voting in heaven, and their god doesn't take surveys or count hands.

And there are no rights or freedoms in the bible - just the right to obey or burn.

Does anybody really doubt that if the church had the power to enforce its theocratic model that it wouldn't?

Even more so, has that church ever had the authority to burn witches at the stake or impale heretics in the iron maiden and said, "No, that is cruel and barbaric. We refuse to exercise that power"? Of course not.
You flatter yourself.
Christians don't what your azz in heaven! We don't want to save you from yourself. We just want junk science stopped.

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#2941 Oct 11, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>Oh I know what the US constitution is.

It's something that American Christians wished their country didn't have.
Or no a sock puppet is lying!

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#2942 Oct 11, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>Nice of you to accept that all the Hindu gods and goddesses are for real.
Oh another fool who doesn't know the difference between religion and Deities.

Religion is real!

re·li·gion\ri-ˈli-jən\
noun
1 a : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices.

Deities may or may not be real. No proof either way. Religion is real!!

What a Dolt!

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#2943 Oct 11, 2012
derek4 wrote:
The atheist's leap of faith

“According to the News Bureau at the University of Illinois, "Life did not begin with one primordial cell. Instead, there were initially at least three simple types of loosely constructed cellular organizations. They swam in a pool of genes, evolving in a communal way that aided one another in bootstrapping into the three distinct types of cells by sharing their evolutionary inventions."

I have some news for the University News Bureau. If you talk about life beginning as a "loosely constructed cellular organizations" that swam "in a pool of genes," then it wasn’t the beginning at all, because loosely constructed cellular organizations swimming in a pool of genes already existed.

Ex-atheist, Lee Strobel said, "Essentially, I realized that to stay an atheist, I would have to believe that nothing produces everything; non-life produces life; randomness produces fine-tuning; chaos produces information; unconsciousness produces consciousness; and non-reason produces reason. Those leaps of faith were simply too big for me to take ..."

For the beginning to be the beginning, there must be nothing. Zilch. If you disagree, in simple language, explain to me where I am going wrong. Tell me what was in the beginning--what was it that began the evolutionary process? Let me guess your answer. You don't know what it was, but you know that it wasn't God.”
http://www.pulltheplugonatheism.com/art09.sht...

“You don't know what it was, but you know that it wasn't God.”

[What a strange religion!]
"You don't know what it was, but you know that it wasn't God.”"

[What a strange religion!]

How true!

And a small religion 2.3%.
No other religion in the history of the earth Has lost more members then Atheist.

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#2944 Oct 11, 2012
derek4 wrote:
Why do atheists hate God?

Recently, I have had a lot of conversations with atheists. Many express a strong hatred of God. I have been at a loss to explain this. How can you hate someone you don’t believe in? Why the hostility? If God does not exist, shouldn’t atheists just relax and seek a good time before they become plant food? Why should it matter if people believe in God? Nothing matters if atheism is true.
http://creation.com/atheist-god-hate

“If God does not exist, shouldn’t atheists just relax and seek a good time before they become plant food?”

[SEEK A GOOD TIME? Naahhh.....they'd rather waste their time hating.]
They hate because their soul is screaming for God and they Ignore it which causes internal strife.

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#2945 Oct 11, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>Atheism is not a religion.

You lose again.
Oh look at the Snake Boy puppet is back! LOL

Snake boy learn the English language.

Atheist is a Religion.

Religion

Synonyms: credo, creed, cult, FAITH, persuasion

faith\ˈfāth\
noun

b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof

Atheism

Belief that there is no Deity or Deities.

Hence - Atheism = Religion

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#2946 Oct 11, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>You are so ignorant it hurts to read your drivel.

Do you believe bigfoot exists?
How about wizards?
How about flying unicorns?

Do you have any proof that those thing do not exist?
Than I guess you have quite a few religions you follow!!!!

Does it hurt to be that stupid?
Sock puppet

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#2947 Oct 11, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is not a religion.
You lose again.
I know, right?

What is it with religious people and their weird need to have everyone assigned to some religion - so much so that now they claim that people who don't even believe in god have formed their own religion?

Its creepy...

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