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No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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#2639 Oct 8, 2012
“The question of whether there exists a Creator and Ruler of the Universe has been answered in the affirmative by some of the highest intellects that have ever existed.”
Charles Darwin

“Charles Darwin is a great English Scientist. These meaningful quotes will touch, inspire and move you. Have a great time picking a special quote from the list below!”
http://www.cloverquotes.com/by/charles-darwin...

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#2640 Oct 8, 2012
“A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections,- a mere heart of stone.”
Charles Darwin
http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/entry-2122

A heart of stone? Hmmmm.....maybe that's what some of the scientists had when they engaged in misconduct by contributing fraudulent research that resulted in the marketing of medications that killed thousands.

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#2641 Oct 8, 2012
“I love fools' experiments. I am always making them.”
Charles Darwin

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin

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#2642 Oct 8, 2012
“Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy.”
Charles Darwin
http://www.cloverquotes.com/by/charles-darwin...

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#2643 Oct 8, 2012
I trust that the meaningful quotes [from Darwin] that were posted today "will touch, inspire and move you.", just as the link promised that was provided with the quotes - LMAO

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#2644 Oct 8, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Said the religious liar with absolutely no evidence.
You are pathetic.
Yes, you are a pathetic liar. You aren't a participatory person either. You have nothing of interest or value to contribute to the forum, so you type worhtless oneliners that go nowhere - just like you - going nowhere (exept to hell)- lol.

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#2645 Oct 8, 2012
From: The Guardian UK

Scientists credited on ghostwritten articles 'should be charged with fraud'

Legal experts call for severe sanctions against scientists who 'guest author' papers written by drugs companies

Tuesday 2 August 2011

Doctors and scientists who put their names to medical articles they have not written should be charged with professional misconduct and fraud, according to legal experts.

The proposals aim to stamp out the shady business of "guest authorship", where research papers written by pharmaceutical companies or industry-sponsored medical writers are passed off as the work of influential, independent academics.

In the worst cases, doctors receive payments or other incentives to endorse articles without being familiar with the studies or data the reports describe. Often, the articles are biased and do not carry the names of the real authors.

The medical profession has long been troubled by guest authorship and ghostwriting, but the issue has become harder to ignore in recent years as the extent to which drugs companies use the tactic as a marketing tool has become clear.

Articles drafted by industry with minimal involvement from guest authors have been published in leading journals on hormone replacement therapy (HRT), Vioxx (an anti-inflammatory drug that was withdrawn amid safety fears), Neurontin (used in pain relief), antidepressants, and the combination diet drug, Fen-phen (also withdrawn for safety reasons).

While the practice is not currently considered to be illegal, it is widely regarded as unethical and potentially harmful to patients because it skews the information that appears in medical journals.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/aug/02...

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#2646 Oct 8, 2012
GlaxoSmithKline concedes drug fraud charges

Posted in Science Alert: Experts Respond on July 3rd, 2012.


Pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline today announced it will plead guilty to marketing drugs for unapproved uses and failing to report safety data.

In what is believed to be the largest ever US healthcare fraud settlement, the company will pay out US$3 billion in criminal fines and civil settlements.

The multinational company was charged with violations of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act for marketing Paxil and Wellbutrin for unapproved uses, including the treatment of children and adolescents. The company also conceded charges that it held back data and made unsupported safety claims over its diabetes drug Avandia.
http://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/2012/07/0...

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#2647 Oct 8, 2012
So much scientific misconduct, that there are law firms who specialize in representing these criminals, lol:

"Facing an allegation or formal charge of scientific fraud or research misconduct can be one of the most traumatic events that you can suffer in your professional and personal life.

If you find yourself faced with an allegation or charge of scientific fraud or research misconduct, know that a team of highly experienced, understanding, ethical, and technically savvy attorneys stands ready to level the playing field and fight for your rights against powerful and intimidating foes.

Our firm has a national reputation and we will fully and thoroughly investigate the allegations and your defenses. The regulations and statutes that establish the procedures for investigating and pursuing such allegations can be complicated and arduous. We will aggressively work for you at every stage of the process, from inquiries through investigations and appeals (at the institutional and federal level).

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LMAO!!!

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#2648 Oct 8, 2012
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314573,00...

Another hypocrit Christhole. Classic!

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#2649 Oct 8, 2012
Wow...that was a lot of spam on one page...

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#2650 Oct 8, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0 ,2933,314573,00.html
Another hypocrit Christhole. Classic!
Thanks for your post. I love stories that expose fake Ted Haggard. He sure made the rounds, didn't he? Who knows, he may have been over to your grandma's house as well, lol.

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#2651 Oct 8, 2012
Can You Spot the Fake Scientific Studies?
By Amber Williams
August 10, 2012

Scientists will investigate anything in pursuit of knowledge. Yes, anything. Out of the six studies here, three were published in science journals. We made up the other three. Can you tell the real papers from the fakes?(The answers can be revealed at the bottom of the post)

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/08/st_...

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#2652 Oct 8, 2012
Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of true to no relationships among the relationships probed in each scientific field. In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller; when there is a greater number and lesser preselection of tested relationships; where there is greater flexibility in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical modes; when there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice; and when more teams are involved in a scientific field in chase of statistical significance. Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias.
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/...

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#2653 Oct 8, 2012
This song seems to be an apt take on Religion and God.



Of course in the above song there is a happier resolution than religion and God.

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#2654 Oct 8, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
This song seems to be an apt take on Religion and God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =F1ILPl5FQaMXX
Of course in the above song there is a happier resolution than religion and God.
LOL

Here's another one you might like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#2655 Oct 8, 2012
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Because you're lying.
I've noticed how important you say honesty is to you troughout your many posts in the forum, so I'd like to ask for your help in exposing the frauds and misconducts of scientists. I know you would like our readers to be aware of dishonesty in the scientific community, especially since much of it can adversely impact thousands of lives.

Below is a sample post which will give you an idea of the kind of information that is needed, to help you get started on the big job that's ahead of you:

From Science Daily:
Facts in Scientific Drug Literature May Not Be
(May 29, 2012)— A growing concern with fraud and misconduct in published drug studies has led researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago's Center for Pharmacoeconomic Research to investigate the extent and reasons for retractions in the research.
"We were surprised to find the proportion of retractions due to scientific misconduct in the drug literature is higher than in general biomedical literature," said Simon Pickard, associate professor of pharmacy practice and senior author of a study published in the journal Pharmacotherapy.
Nearly three-quarters of the retracted drug studies were attributed to scientific misconduct, he said, "which includes data falsification or fabrication, questionable veracity, unethical author conduct, or plagiarism. While these studies comprise a small percentage of the overall literature, health care professionals may rely on this evidence to make treatment recommendations.
These studies can affect the treatment of thousands of patients, since scientific publications are often printed months in advance.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/...

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#2656 Oct 8, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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If you wish to post a new idea (even though you're incapable of having new ideas) or if you wish to post something which does not address the post to which you are replying, you need to start a new post. That is how forums work.
I have no interest in the fraud of evolution, nor your support of fraudulent scientists.
In other words, you're just another fundie who subscribes to the idea that every single species was magically "poofed" into existence.

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#2657 Oct 8, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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Study your Bible.
What's the point?

After nearly two thousand years of Christianity we have numerous different Bibles and thousands of different Christian denominations, sects and cults all proclaiming that their take on the Christian myth is the correct one.

If the supreme creator being had done a better job with his book I might have taken you up on your suggestion. However, it appears that the god of the Bible is a woefully poor communicator who just can't seem to get his message across.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#2658 Oct 8, 2012
derek4 wrote:
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Yeah, and the cops in your neighborhood catch all the robbers, lol.
“Judging by analyses showing that the number of retractions during the past ten years has skyrocketed, it is reasonable to conclude that the self-regulating peer review system suffers from serious underlying defects.”
http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/846/94/
And read here:
existing peer review systems probably cannot detect anything but the most obvious fraud. In addition to imposing or perpetuating stringent review protocols, journals also can amend author guidelines to speak explicitly about publishing requirements. Cases of properly documented fraud warrant immediate public announcement, followed by official withdrawal or retraction. Reflection on these issues led editors of one journal to institute changes in editorial policies and develop a code of ethics for authors, reviewers, and editors. Prevention of dishonest research is already difficult, and we should ensure that this remains the case. Editors should formally commit reviewers/authors to ethical conduct in technical publications prior to publication and review.
http://scholarworks.umass.edu/intljssw/vol1/i...
Also, you might want to pass along your condescending and patronizing remarks to someone else rather than me. Try the families of all the people who have died from medications deemed safe by corrupt research scientists who were paid off by the drug companies, lol.
OK, the system isn't perfect. Some how,the idea that we should, therefore chuck it in favor of a collection of Bronze-age myths seems not to follow logically.

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