Don't dictate beliefs

[derek4]

Reason Personified wrote:

<quoted text>Was Hitler a Christian?
Yes, he was. You can't dispute that. He considered himself Christain, and it doesn't matter what anybody says more than half a century later. Adolph Hitler was Christain.

No, Hitler wasn't a Christain. He wasn't a Christian either.

On the other hand, your buddy, Stalin, was an atheist. He killed even more people than Hitler. Cry about it.

Stalin closed some 48,000 churches, promoted atheism, special atheist education in schools, so on and so on – it's all in Wikipedia (below) from a previous post:

Although raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin was an atheist. Stalin followed the position adopted by Lenin that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed in order to construct the ideal communist society. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

Your atheist friend is the most prolific mass murderer in history.

[KJV]

Chess Jurist wrote:

<quoted text>belongs - belongs on

I thought you were the English professor of this thread?

How dare you make a typo!

[KJV]

Givemeliberty wrote:

<quoted text>I often ask local godbots who want to quote me scripture before they get going, so why should anyone care what the bible says?

90% it cuts them to the quick so fast they walk away stammering and muttering to themselves. If they curse me to hell I smile and say, Then I might as well get my money's worth. And stare at them with a wicked smile.

Actually had a Christhole start crying when I did that!

They were crying for your soul!

But it really made you feel like THE MAN.

Pretty good the way you follow Satan's suggestions so venomously. Grandma would be so proud.

[KJV]

It aint necessarily so wrote:

<quoted text>No. But you still confirmed the man's claim that 3500 churches a year close.

Why is that? What happens to those congregations? Are they just thinning out so much that the pastor or minister has to find gainful employment?

As I recall, your link left me with the impression that the new churches were mostly seed churches being planted like so many hair plugs by some organized money with an agenda. If so, most of them will likely fail as well. Mene mene: the writing is on the wall for the American church. Just look at Europe.

Religion
New Adherents Annually
Growth Rate
Christianity
25,210,195
1.36%
Islam
22,588,676
2.13%
Hinduism
12,533,734
1.69%
Buddhism
3,687,527
1.09%
Sikhism
392,638
1.87%
Judaism
124,515
0.91%
Baha'i
143,491
2.28%
Confucianism
44,305
0.73%
Jainism
34,951
0.87%
Shinto
-31,993
-1.09%
Taoism
25,242
1.00%
Zoroastrianism
58,471
2.65%
Source: The following table has been quoted as taken from the 2005 Encyclopædia Britannica.

[KJV]

It aint necessarily so wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks.

NP

[KJV]

It aint necessarily so wrote:

<quoted text>http://www.wpclipart.com/food/meat/sausage/sa...

Ah. The link!

Lol

[KJV]

It aint necessarily so wrote:

<quoted text>KJV wrote, "Really, you think that's the same?"

Yes. Consistent, anyway.

KJV wrote, "One post 3500 to 4000 churches close down every year. The other says about 4000 new churches open ever year while about 3500 close leaving a GROWTH of 500 churches."

Yes, they do.

KJV wrote, "His post was saying last nights football score was 24 to 9 Raiders! While the finale score was 24 to 30 Packers.
Posting the half time score as if it was the finale score is as miss leading as an all out lie.
"

No. His post was the equivalent of saying that the Raiders scored 24 points. The rebuttal was "No they didn't. The Packers scored thirty. Here's the score: 30-24."

No his post was about the decline in churches, read the whole thing!

There is no decline there is however growth something his post was deliberately misrepresenting.

Going back to the football analogy he was trying to make everyone believe the Raiders won the game. Sorry Charlie they lost.

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>You stand pat?

You mean you stand on a cowpat?

I guess the smell of shite is just too enticing for you to resist.

Anyway, it's posts like these that reveal how you're definitely a xtian.

No other religion has such warped and twisted followers.

Looks like you should fit right in!

Oh but first we would have to burn you at the stake to make sure none of Satan's little gruel's come with you.

Oh wait you're made out of wood and string, guess you won't be coming out of the fire ether.

Lol

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>It's ok, I now know from the sick hatred of your posts that you're a xtian.

That 2000 year old zombie you worship will be proud of you.

It took you that long to figure out Langoliers? Can you say S L O W D O L T ?

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>No, but socks are oh-so-easy to spot.

I know! I'm looking right at one!

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>Well, according to your god, Pi = 3

"It must be embarrassing for him when his own creation turns out to be smarter than he is."

It's embarrassing that you think you have this right?

Let us look at the truth of the claim you are making.

It must be embarrassing for him when his own creation turns out to be smarter than he is.

"From time to time sceptics have used these verses to ridicule the accuracy of the Bible by claiming that, if one uses the figures stated, the circumference of the vessel divided by its diameter gives 3.0, instead of the value pi π, 3.14159…).1"

"Closer examination shows there are at least two possible explanations.

The first concerns the meaning of the word cubit, and how it would have been used in measuring the vessel. A cubit was the length of a man’s forearm from the elbow to the extended fingertips. The Hebrew cubit was about 45 centimetres (18 inches). It is obvious that a man's forearm does not readily lend itself to the measurement of fractions of a forearm. In the Bible half a cubit is mentioned several times, but there is no mention of a third part of a cubit or a fourth part of a cubit, even though these fractions of ‘a third part’ and ‘a fourth part’ were used in volume and weight measurements.2 It therefore seems highly probable that any measurement of more than half a cubit would have been counted as a full cubit, and any measurement of less than half a cubit would have been rounded down to the nearest full cubit.

From 1 Kings 7:23 (‘a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about’), it appears that the circumference was measured with ‘a line’, i.e. a piece of string or cord on which the distance was marked, and this length would then have been measured off in cubits by the measurer, using his own or someone else’s forearm, or possibly a cubit-long rod. Similarly the diameter would have been marked on a line and ‘cubitized’ in the same way.

If the actual diameter was 9.65 cubits, for example, this would have been reckoned as 10 cubits. The actual circumference would then have been 30.32 cubits. This would have been reckoned as 30 cubits (9.6 cubits diameter gives 30.14 circumference, and so on). The ratio of true circumference to true diameter would then have been 30.32÷ 9.65 = 3.14, the true value for pi, even though the measured value (i.e. to the nearest cubit) was 30 ÷ 10 = 3."

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>Well, according to your god, Pi = 3

It must be embarrassing for him when his own creation turns out to be smarter than he is.

Now shut your Pi hole!

Sorry couldn't resist.

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, I use "xtian" to annoy you.

Looks like it's working or you wouldn't have commented.

I'll just keep right on saying "xtian".

Is that ok with you, xtian?

xtian
Abbreviation of Christian.
Often used by atheist who participate in online debates and can't be bothered to keep writing "Christian". They often have too tough of a time spelling large words.

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>Says the xtian who needs to use socks to try an bolster his feeble posts.

Let me get this straight, who are you calling all the same person?

Just need to know if you got all of them or if some are still good to use! LOL

Looks like your wood is going punky puppet boy.

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>He also commands you never to eat shellfish o rwear clothes made from mixed fabrics.

I trust you obey those orders.

Well if I was of that faith I most likely would. Sigh.

looks like I have to sit down for dinner I'm having Ham and Scallops. LOL

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>I never click on links posted by xtians

No doubt it's some apologetic waffle provided by some supplicant and simpering xtian who spends hie entire life bent in subservience to some unproveable supernatural being.

All I need to know is that the Bible says Pi = 3

I have no need of an interpretation provided by someone who thinks that genocide is a good thing.

"All I need to know is that the Bible says Pi = 3"

I know it's all you know. But you even got that wrong!

Oh the links aren't there for you to click on. Because then you would find out they have nothing to do with my post. They're just posted for eye candy. LOL

"example, this would have been reckoned as 10 cubits. The actual circumference would then have been 30.32 cubits. This would have been reckoned as 30 cubits (9.6 cubits diameter gives 30.14 circumference, and so on). The ratio of true circumference to true diameter would then have been 30.32÷ 9.65 = 3.14, the true value for pi, even though the measured value (i.e. to the nearest cubit) was 30 ÷ 10 = 3."

http://creation.mo bi/does-the-bible-say-pi-equal s-3

[KJV]

derek4 wrote:

<quoted text>I usually ignore you, dingbat, but sounds like you are dictating your beliefs with that comment.

That's what the forum is all about, "Don't dictate beliefs."

LOL

LMFAO. puppet boy is really losing it!

LOL. What a Dolt!

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>I see.

So you hate all the killings that the Bible says your god did personally as well as the many that he ordered to be carried out.

Good entertainment !

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>ROFLMAO!!!!

You've been conned by a load of dark age theological gerrymandering.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t0...

"Fulfilled Prophecies

The remarkable evidence of fulfilled prophecy is just one case in point. Hundreds of Bible prophecies have been fulfilled, specifically and meticulously, often long after the prophetic writer had passed away.

For example, Daniel the prophet predicted in about 538 BC (Daniel 9:24-27) that Christ would come as Israel's promised Savior and Prince 483 years after the Persian emperor would give the Jews authority to rebuild Jerusalem, which was then in ruins. This was clearly and definitely fulfilled, hundreds of years later.

There are extensive prophecies dealing with individual nations and cities and with the course of history in general, all of which have been literally fulfilled. More than 300 prophecies were fulfilled by Christ Himself at His first coming. Other prophecies deal with the spread of Christianity, as well as various false religions, and many other subjects.

There is no other book, ancient or modern, like this. The vague, and usually erroneous, prophecies of people like Jeanne Dixon, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and others like them are not in the same category at all, and neither are other religious books such as the Koran, the Confucian Analects, and similar religious writings. Only the Bible manifests this remarkable prophetic evidence, and it does so on such a tremendous scale as to render completely absurd any explanation other than divine revelation."

[KJV]

Khatru wrote:

<quoted text>Ha!

I knew if I kept at it I'd draw you out.

Tell me, isn't it time you changed into langoliers?

LOL

To funny!