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No one else can say otherwise? That is basically saying those who do "believe in God" are better? Hardly.

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KJV

United States

#2262 Oct 4, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>"We are told how your god has his hand in human matters"

You've not been listening.
God does not interfere in human life's.

"floods, fire, earthquakes, tsunamis and the like, and that he is angry"

I thought you were an atheist? LOL

You believe this? "floods, fire, earthquakes, tsunamis and the like, and that he is angry"

LOL. What a Fool.

"Look how well that worked for you. You have made atheists the most despised subset of people in America, and driven us into the closet."

I didn't do that they did it to them selfs!

"I want candidates who say they are Christian to be considered dangerous fools, lest they be elected. I want people like George Bush, John Ashcroft, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorini, and Pat Robertson to be booed whenever they speak."

When Atheist can break the 5% mark of the population then we'll talk about this!

LOL

Your a minority among minority's.
"

"Look how well that worked for you. You have made atheists the most despised subset of people in America, and driven us into the closet."

"I didn't do that they did it to them selfs!"

Bingo!
KJV

United States

#2264 Oct 4, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>Dearth Vader like God is a work of fiction yet both in their work of fiction were murderers of the innocent.
Ummm this might come as a bit of a shock to you but vader lost!
God wins "note: read full book"

Not one-thing in the Star Wars books came to be.

"The chance of any one man fulfilling all of 48 prophecies is one in 10 to the 157 power. The electron is about as small an object as we can imagine. if we had a cubic inch of these electrons and tried to count them, it would take us (at 250 per minute) 19,000 time 19,000 time 19,000 years to count them. Now mark one of them, and thoroughly stir it into the whole mass. What chance does our blindfolded man have of finding the right electron?--- The same chance as one man of fulfilling 48 of the prophecies about Christ, without being the Son of God!"

http://home.surewest.net/dfrench/evidence/pro...

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#2268 Oct 4, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Percentage declining because of much higher birth rates in theocratic (Muslim) nations.
Sigh obfuscate much?
Guess what there are more toilet scrubbers like you compared to heart surgeons. Should one say that make toilet scrubbers like you superior to heart surgeons?
Bottom line the cream rises to the top.
<quoted text>
You're an expert on toilets, aren't you?

I'm sure your toilet gets a good workout all through the day.

And yes, I scrub the likes of you right down the toilet and flush it, lol.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#2269 Oct 4, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"There is nothing more pathetic than to see you lose and still try to act like a winner which makes you that much more a loser than if you just shut up and hid your pitiful face."
derek4,
This is spot on, it's how they live.
Have you noticed that some have bailed off the thread while have tried to salvage this thread by coming to the rescue?
Good to see you back! Yes, we've lost our little “Kitten” and of course the serpent bailed out.

About all that's left of the original atheists that posted are the dingbat diehards that never learn, lol.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#2271 Oct 4, 2012
This atheist posts:

“So, I've been thinking about this for a little while and I've come to realize that atheism is really depressing. I'll explain why.(And mind you, I do consider myself agnostic if not atheist, so this isn't a Christian talking)

Atheism is about a statement- "I do not believe in a god." So, atheists believe that the world was created over time as a result of something else. I do think that this is a good possibility. Just because we don't know something, doesn't mean we have to make a god for it. The Romans and Greeks created gods to explain things they could not understand such as lightning and floods. It seems like much of this derives from fear. I will be the first one to admit that I am afraid of death. Not dying but actual death so it makes sense why as a society we created something to explain death and make it a little less scary.

However, atheists do not believe in the afterlife. Our bodies simply shut off and we will never be conscious again. I kind of associate this with sleeping (when you really don’t know you’re asleep until you wake up) except you don’t dream and you don’t wake up. I’m not really frightened of that since I won’t know I’m dead anyway. It will just be.

But back to that point. Since atheism believes in no god, no afterlife, no creation, then our lives become as meaningless as a bug’s. Think about it. Childhood, our best years, as not appreciated because we are too young to understand. Youth is taken away by education. Middle-age by working 40 hours a week at a job you don’t like. And then when you’re older, you look back and wonder where all those years have gone. Before you know it, all your friends/loved ones are dying off and you wonder when you’re going to follow. But it’s not like you’ll be rejoined with them. How depressing to think of them as just…dead.

So then what is the purpose of life? Just to live? What about the people have live horrible lives? Do they never get to be happy? What about the people who get everything handed to them? I’ve heard before that those people will never understand fully the meaning of life. But who cares? If they are rich and ignorant to the pain of the world, more power to them. What is the value of life to someone who is in a coma? Mentally ill? Retarded? It’s not like they can comprehend life to the extend of a healthy adult. There’s no justice in the afterlife either. Normally we like to think that the people that have done wrong in life will be punished after they die. In an atheist point of view, no they won’t. They will have the same fate as everyone else. Seems unfair to me.

I just think it’s depressing to think about the fact that no matter what I do in this life, there will not be another. Slowly, as I’m typing out this blog, the world is spinning and I’m dying. All I have to wait for is the eventually decay of my body. Despite my logical reasoning, I wish I could believe that there was a God.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/blogs/view/787903/

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#2272 Oct 4, 2012
From: guardian.co.uk, Friday 24 October 2008

Atheists, enjoy life?

“Most of the non-believers I've encountered are gloomy blighters with a depressing message that there is no purpose to life.”

... continued:

“Far from relaxing and enjoying life, most atheists I have encountered are gloomy blighters with a depressing and nihilistic message that there is no purpose to life so where's the point of anything? They so often fall into the category defined by GK Chesterton: "Those that do not have the faith/Will not have the fun." You only have to attend one of their dreary humanist funerals to see that – I am never going to another of those, just to be made miserable.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/...
KJV

United States

#2273 Oct 4, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>Good to see you back! Yes, we've lost our little “Kitten” and of course the serpent bailed out.

About all that's left of the original atheists that posted are the dingbat diehards that never learn, lol.
Nice to be back,

I see you and Lang's are having all the fun here.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2277 Oct 4, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought you were an Atheist!
You can't believe that God is a communist and be an atheist.
Talk about not understanding ones faith!
You're a joke!
You've had lots of chances to refute me and you've failed everytime.

You're a typical xtian fundie.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2278 Oct 4, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Quote from Khatru:
"Mumbgh umngfcs Jdsv Hjjj jfgvhh bf kgggf ftfd hhhhhkmnv mbbvbm mkkcx"
See he forgot to take his foot out of his mouth! LOL
Coward.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2279 Oct 4, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter does it?
It doesn't matter.

I know you're a Muslim.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2280 Oct 4, 2012
derek4 wrote:
<quoted text>
That was a perfect answer if I ever saw one, lol.
Stop talking to yourself.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2281 Oct 4, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"I know he doesn't exist"
Mind letting the rest of the world see your proof of no God?
Oh yes I thought so, just more crap flowing from an atheist.
Please explain why anyone should even read your crap when you proven yourself to be a fool with statements like that one?
Any supreme being who thinks that Pi = 3 isn't for real.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2282 Oct 4, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
So you believe the bible and that God carried out killings. You do know that you are not an atheist then?
I don't believe it.

However, xtians do.

This of course means that they deeply love all the killings that the Bible says their god has carried out.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2283 Oct 4, 2012
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"
"Look how well that worked for you. You have made atheists the most despised subset of people in America, and driven us into the closet."
"I didn't do that they did it to them selfs!"
Bingo!
You're another sock.

It shows the paucity of your arguments when you feel you have to use so many socks to support them.

Since: Mar 11

Florence, KY

#2284 Oct 4, 2012
Save your apologetic nonsense. Jesus failed to fulfill a single meaningful prophecy. Best he could do was was into town on a jackass, which actually some ancient Torah scrolls say it would be a horse young and strong so even in that he failed.

KJV wrote:
<quoted text>Ummm this might come as a bit of a shock to you but vader lost!
God wins "note: read full book"

Not one-thing in the Star Wars books came to be.

"The chance of any one man fulfilling all of 48 prophecies is one in 10 to the 157 power. The electron is about as small an object as we can imagine. if we had a cubic inch of these electrons and tried to count them, it would take us (at 250 per minute) 19,000 time 19,000 time 19,000 years to count them. Now mark one of them, and thoroughly stir it into the whole mass. What chance does our blindfolded man have of finding the right electron?--- The same chance as one man of fulfilling 48 of the prophecies about Christ, without being the Son of God!"

http://home.surewest.net/dfrench/evidence/pro...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#2285 Oct 5, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
"In America, 3500 — 4000 churches close their doors each year."

Nice try ass hole!

"Annual Net Gain of 500 Churches Every Year in U.S. According to a recent Christian Post article there is some good news for the mission of Jesus in the United States. In an article titled, Total U.S. Churches No Longer In Decline it points out that every year there are now 4,000 churches being planted in the U.S. while 3500 churches will close their doors. This bottom line is this: we are seeing a net gain of 500 new churches every year in the United States." http://daveferguson.typepad.com/daveferguson/...

More lies by an Atheist, what a shocker!
Your post confirmed his:

His post: "3500 — 4000 churches close their doors each year."
Your post: "3500 churches will close their doors"

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#2286 Oct 5, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
You're another sock.
It shows the paucity of your arguments when you feel you have to use so many socks to support them.
He may be a sock but you are a puppet.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#2287 Oct 5, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll say it again.
I didn't do that they did it to them selfs!
Christian hate speech - and Christian hate speech alone - causes the lives of atheists to be more difficult and dangerous.

This is the love of Jesus I see:

“Settle it therefore in your minds, as a maxim never to be effaced or forgotten, that atheism is an inhuman, bloody, ferocious system, equally hostile to every useful restraint and to every virtuous affection; that, leaving nothing above us to excite awe, nor round us to awaken tenderness, it wages war with heaven and with earth: its first object is to dethrone God, its next to destroy man.”- Rev. Robert Hall

And this, an anti-atheist propaganda poster: http://0.tqn.com/d/atheism/1/7/U/2/3/The-Athe...

Some of us are getting tired of being characterized as moral filth who threaten decency. You'll probably be noticing us pushing back with increasing vigor over the next several decades. And you're not going to like it. You will be screaming about persecution for not being to say and do whatever you like unopposed. From a pastor selling DVDs:

“Facing rising persecution and discrimination, many Christians feel hopeless, uncertain what to do,” reads the promotional copy. The e-mail promises that I will learn “how you can be prepared if you feel the pressure to be silenced for your faith.”

You might have noted many of us posting in the language Christians use - in terms of Christians being morally unfit, poor neighbors, poor citizens, enemies of the Constitution, and the like. Personally, I enthusiastically applaud this. You leave us no choice if we don't want to be your doormats and whipping boys any longer.

Certainly that must seem fair to Golden Rule people. In fact, here's what it would look like ....

IF WE TREATED CHRISTIANS HOW THEY TREAT ATHEISTS

• Christians would be regarded as morally deficient, evil people, lacking in even basic human goodness.

• Atheists might regularly go door-to-door proselytizing to Christians.

• Persons convicted of criminal offenses would receive shorter sentences and be eligible for early release if they rejected their Christian beliefs.

• Christians would be under tremendous pressure to keep their Christianity hidden for fear of being ostracized by their families and assaulted by strangers.

• Christians could be fired from their jobs simply for being Christian and would have little legal recourse.

• Virtually every negative event would be blamed on Christians.

• Some judges would use a parent's Christian beliefs as a reason to deny custody, questioning their moral character.*

• Raising children to be Christian would be viewed as a serious abrogation of parental responsibility.*

[* The Brits are way ahead of us on these last two: http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/britis... ]

In your own words, you've done it to yourselves.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#2288 Oct 5, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Christian hate speech - and Christian hate speech alone - causes the lives of atheists to be more difficult and dangerous.
There is no such thing as "Hate Speech".

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#2289 Oct 5, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
"No, I don't know that [Hitler was not a Christian]. What evidence is there that Hitler was not a Christian? That he was a murderous psychopath? Some quotations?"

You're kidding right? Super DOLT alert.
Good rebuttal!

Actually, it's not an issue for me whether Hitler was lying about his Christianity or not. But I will push back on this issue because, despite the facts that Hitler was raised in the Catholic church, that he professed Christ, and that the German people and clergy thought Hitler was a Christian, Christians call Hitler an atheist as an argument against atheism.

So, although it is irrelevant, it demeans your faith in the way that Christians intend to demean unbelievers. And you people seem to go apoplectic at the thought. So,

Like I said, you've brought it on yourselves.

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