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LCN Llin

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#124 Jul 30, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
National Socialism has always affirmed that it is determined to take the Christian Churches under the protection of the State.... The decisive factor which can justify the existence alike of Church and State is the maintenance of men's spiritual and bodily health, for it that health were destroyed it would mean the end of the State and also the end of the Church.... It is my sincere hope that thereby for Germany, too, through free agreement there has been produced a final clarification of spheres in the functions of the State and of one Church.
-Adolf Hitler, on a wireless on 22 July, the evening before the Evangelical Church Election
The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.
-Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party (quoted from John Cornwell's "Hitler's Pope"
Among the congregations of the Protestant confessions there has arisen in the "German Christians' a movement that is filled with the determination to do justice to the great tasks of the day and has aimed at a union of the Protestant state churches and confessions. If this question is not really on the way towards a solution, in the judgement of history no false or stupid objections will be able to dispute the fact that this service was rendered by the volkisch movement at a time when, unfortunately, just as in the Roman Church, many pastors and superintendents without reason have opposed the national uprising in the most violent, indeed, often fanatical, way.
-Adolf Hitler, in a radio address on 22 July 1933 to the German people after a performance of Wagner's Christian allegory Parsifal in Bayreuth.[from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
[This statement clearly refutes modern Christians who claim Hitler as favoring atheism.]
I believe that Providence would never have allowed us to see the victory of the Movement if it had the intention after all to destroy us at the end.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech to old members of the Party at Munich on 8 Nov. 1933
The German Church and the People are practically the same body. Therefore there could be no issue between Church and State. The Church, as such, has nothing to do with political affairs. On the other hand, the State has nothing to do with the faith or inner organization of the Church. The election of November 12th would be an expression of church constituency, but not as a Church.
-Adolf Hitler, answering C. F. Macfarland about Church & State (in his book, The New Church and the New Germany)
While we destroyed the Centre Party, we have not only brought thousands of priests back into the Church, but to millions of respectable people we have restored their faith in their religion and in their priests. The union of the Evangelical Church in a single Church for the whole Reich, the Concordat with the Catholic Church, these are but milestones on the road which leads to the establishment of a useful relation and a useful co operation between the Reich and the two Confessions.
-Adolf Hitler, in his New Year Message on 1 Jan. 1934
Imbued with the desire to secure for the German people the great religious, moral, and cultural values rooted in the two Christian Confessions, we have abolished the political organizations but strengthened the religious institutions.
-Adolf Hitler, speaking in the Reichstag on 30 Jan. 1934
Cut and paste nonsense.
LOL

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#125 Jul 31, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
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Cut and paste nonsense.
LOL
Well stop it then. Foolish creationist troll with no morals.

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#126 Jul 31, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Another opportunity to prove the god you lie about for your fraudulent cult wasted.
Why do you post this all the time?
Do you hope that some day someone will try and recruit you?
Not happening dude.

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#127 Aug 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Why do you post this all the time?
Do you hope that some day someone will try and recruit you?
Not happening dude.
When you're brave enough to prove the god you're here to lie about, your opinions might matter more.
LCN Llin

United States

#128 Aug 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Why do you post this all the time?
Do you hope that some day someone will try and recruit you?
Not happening dude.
remember when you were in 7th grade?
she has it tough and all the while her parents pay taxes to the Church of England.
LCN Llin

United States

#129 Aug 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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When you're brave enough to prove the god you're here to lie about, your opinions might matter more.
In the grown up word people have opinion different from yours.

Deal with it

This is a difficult challenge - by the end of this blog - to convince at least some atheist readers that they might benefit by praying. Impossible? Maybe. But my blog this month is at least partly driven by my discomfort with Richard Dawkins - the Oxford don - and his somewhat fundamentalist zeal in depicting religious people as literal, and thus in need of his particular brand of reason and atheism. I concur with scholars like Peter Higgs (of Higgs boson theory fame) who are somewhat "embarrassed" by Dawkins, noting that "What Dawkins does too often is to concentrate his attack on fundamentalists. But there are many believers who are just not fundamentalists." Dawkins assumes that people's religion and metaphysical understandings are a mind-numbing crutch, rather than something more subtle and complex. I argue that while religion has a lot to answer for, certainly some of the practices that have emerged from religion bear further reflection than currently afforded by Dawkins.

People are turning off Christianity in droves in the UK for reasons obvious enough, including lack of relevance to contemporary life. In the 2011 Census, the percentage of Christians had fallen from 72 per cent of England and Wales, to 59 per cent in just 10 years. Those reporting no religion had increased from 15 per cent to 25 per cent. I could be wrong, but I suspect that most of these drop-outs will not be queuing up to take on another prescriptive approach, even if it is from the esteemed atheist guru himself.

We need to make a distinction between religion and spirituality. While religion is the way our social institutions attempt to organise our spiritual beliefs, practices and communities, spirituality is very personal. We social scientists often think of spirituality as how people make meaning out of their lives, especially in terms of what they consider to be the sacred. While sociologists initially thought that Western economic and scientific progress would usher in a secular era, it hasn't really turned out that way. While people are turning away from Christianity (although Islam is becoming more widely practiced in the UK), they have not necessarily given up spiritual beliefs and practices. Witness for example, the way Western science has rushed to embrace (and secularise) mindfulness , which came from ancient Buddhist belief systems.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/professor-dam...

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#130 Aug 1, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
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In the grown up word people have opinion different from yours.
Deal with it
This is a difficult challenge - by the end of this blog - to convince at least some atheist readers that they might benefit by praying. Impossible? Maybe. But my blog this month is at least partly driven by my discomfort with Richard Dawkins - the Oxford don - and his somewhat fundamentalist zeal in depicting religious people as literal, and thus in need of his particular brand of reason and atheism. I concur with scholars like Peter Higgs (of Higgs boson theory fame) who are somewhat "embarrassed" by Dawkins, noting that "What Dawkins does too often is to concentrate his attack on fundamentalists. But there are many believers who are just not fundamentalists." Dawkins assumes that people's religion and metaphysical understandings are a mind-numbing crutch, rather than something more subtle and complex. I argue that while religion has a lot to answer for, certainly some of the practices that have emerged from religion bear further reflection than currently afforded by Dawkins.
People are turning off Christianity in droves in the UK for reasons obvious enough, including lack of relevance to contemporary life. In the 2011 Census, the percentage of Christians had fallen from 72 per cent of England and Wales, to 59 per cent in just 10 years. Those reporting no religion had increased from 15 per cent to 25 per cent. I could be wrong, but I suspect that most of these drop-outs will not be queuing up to take on another prescriptive approach, even if it is from the esteemed atheist guru himself.
We need to make a distinction between religion and spirituality. While religion is the way our social institutions attempt to organise our spiritual beliefs, practices and communities, spirituality is very personal. We social scientists often think of spirituality as how people make meaning out of their lives, especially in terms of what they consider to be the sacred. While sociologists initially thought that Western economic and scientific progress would usher in a secular era, it hasn't really turned out that way. While people are turning away from Christianity (although Islam is becoming more widely practiced in the UK), they have not necessarily given up spiritual beliefs and practices. Witness for example, the way Western science has rushed to embrace (and secularise) mindfulness , which came from ancient Buddhist belief systems.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/professor-dam...
When you're brave enough to stop lying about god, you recovery can begin.

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#131 Aug 1, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
<quoted text>remember when you were in 7th grade?
she has it tough and all the while her parents pay taxes to the Church of England.
I see.
LCN Llin

United States

#132 Aug 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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I see.
she is very defensive
LOL

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#134 Aug 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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I had no idea it was a she.
It's because you're mentally ill that you cannot prove your god after repeated requests.

Now watch as you try to change the subject away from your mental illness of faith.

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#135 Aug 1, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
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she is very defensive
LOL
Creationist trolls are worthless to most forums. And they gather in packs. creationist trolls are the most frequent and idiotic, aren't they Lincoln / Educated What / Dollar Bills, Antiathiest?

Whatever the f*ck your cowardly creationist troll handle it is you use this week...

Anything except proving your mental illness is not shared by the rest of e world.
LCN Llin

United States

#136 Aug 2, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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It's because you're mentally ill that you cannot prove your god after repeated requests.
Now watch as you try to change the subject away from your mental illness of faith.
Thanks for continuing to pay taxes to the Established Church of England and have a nice day young lady

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#137 Aug 2, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
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Thanks for continuing to pay taxes to the Established Church of England and have a nice day young lady
Another attempt to avoid facing the fact that you have no proof of god failed.

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#138 Aug 2, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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I had no idea it was a she.
Lying comes as second nature to creationist cultists like yourself.

Why respect the moral of honesty, when your main creationist moral is how to lie about your religion in order to get more followers?

You are no better than a Twitter spammer,

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