The atheist Religion

Jul 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Awarded after your tenth article is published on MyNews24. You've got 15 more to go to reach the next level! Keen writer, are we? Seems so, you have just had your 5th piece selected as an Editor's Choice article! I enjoy the odd bit of banter with the atheist zealots who troll MyNews24.

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“There are other issues.”

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#1 Jul 11, 2012
Cool! Laveys Satanist are atheists. Nobody can argue that!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#2 Jul 11, 2012
Educated What wrote:
Cool! Laveys Satanist are atheists. Nobody can argue that!
Who cares about Laveys Satanists? Just another bunch of clots.

Religion = superstition
Nobody can argue with that

“There is no god!”

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#3 Jul 12, 2012
Educated What wrote:
Cool! Laveys Satanist are atheists. Nobody can argue that!
Atheism isn't satanism!
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#4 Jul 12, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares about Laveys Satanists? Just another bunch of clots.
Religion = superstition
Nobody can argue with that
well, lots of folks here do argue with that. I do not generalize quite that much. I prefer to concentrate the horrible doctrines, and the most evil consequences of folks believing in them.

Religion can be defined in a way that allows for a decent worldview, as well as the horrible ones. I do not think we all would agree on a definition of religion.

If you wish to comment on my recently started thread, I'd be glad to see your reaction. I called it - how to save god from being evil.
I want to see what sort of reaction it gets, if any. the godbots generally stay away from threads I start, and so do the hard atheists. two sets of wimps, I think. one set less crazy than the other, but both claiming to know more than they know.

“There are other issues.”

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#5 Jul 12, 2012
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>Atheism isn't satanism!
define atheism

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#6 Jul 12, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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define atheism
Better yet, defined Satanism.

Not Laveys church Satanism.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#7 Jul 12, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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define atheism
NOT theism.

Anything else you add to it is a straw man position.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#8 Jul 13, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> well, lots of folks here do argue with that. I do not generalize quite that much. I prefer to concentrate the horrible doctrines, and the most evil consequences of folks believing in them.
Religion can be defined in a way that allows for a decent worldview, as well as the horrible ones. I do not think we all would agree on a definition of religion.
If you wish to comment on my recently started thread, I'd be glad to see your reaction. I called it - how to save god from being evil.
I want to see what sort of reaction it gets, if any. the godbots generally stay away from threads I start, and so do the hard atheists. two sets of wimps, I think. one set less crazy than the other, but both claiming to know more than they know.
I take your point that most religionists do argue that religion isn't superstition.

Similarly, those who believe in witchcraft fail to regard it as superstition. I think in most cases, it may now be a matter of waiting for the penny to drop.

Religion is an important motivation of those who stone women for adultary or make them marry their rapists are motivated partly by religion. Religion is outdated and detrimental to human society in the modern world. Small satanist groups (atheist or not) don't appear to offer much that is constructive. Nobody should argue with any of that, in my opinion.

I follow your comments and thanks for your reply.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#9 Jul 13, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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define atheism
What are we supposed to do when you don't accept our definition and that of the dictionary (which you have been repeatedly given)and keep interpreting it for yourself?

Don't you think that your Lord said, "There are none so blind as he who will not see?" Perhaps not. The three-in-one character only apparently says what religionists feel naturally inclined to agree with.

Note:
Apparently, that's an old proverb attributed to the Englishman, John Heywood, in 1546, who may have been paraphrasing Jeremiah Chapter 5: verse 21, written (it is thought) over 1500 years earlier.

Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_did_this_quot...

“There are other issues.”

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#10 Jul 13, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>What are we supposed to do when you don't accept our definition and that of the dictionary (which you have been repeatedly given)and keep interpreting it for yourself?

Don't you think that your Lord said, "There are none so blind as he who will not see?" Perhaps not. The three-in-one character only apparently says what religionists feel naturally inclined to agree with.

Note:
Apparently, that's an old proverb attributed to the Englishman, John Heywood, in 1546, who may have been paraphrasing Jeremiah Chapter 5: verse 21, written (it is thought) over 1500 years earlier.

Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_did_this_quot...
No one is talking about the Lord here so don't need quotes.

Ok so atheism is pretty much not believing in God or Gods.

Laveys Satanist also do not believe in God or Gods (including Satan).

So by your definition and the explanations that they give in their site, they are also atheists.

No big deal.
Skeptic

Sweden

#11 Jul 13, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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I'm too thick to understand basic logic, but I'm gonna open my trap anyway and come out with some ridiculously illogical bullsh*t anyway. It's because I am a mentally ill creationist godbot with no life.
So what's new?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#12 Jul 13, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> ... I do not think we all would agree on a definition of religion....
Fortunately, that isn't necessary..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/religion

The dictionary exposes any interpretations that aren't widely accepted. Words are for communicating, not re-interpreting.

I not sure if some religions are better or worse than others. The worst ones are naturally those with the most extreme or fervent followers. Generally, they all have the same fundamental flaws: dogma and superstition.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#15 Jul 13, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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define atheism
that is easy. go back to the root words, and then leave well enough alone!
a means not
theism means with a god, or believing in a god, God, gods,or Gods

the ism part refers to theism - the the part refers to a god, the ism part refers to a belief or belief system = theology means study of god

atheists can be divided into sub-categories. some, called hard atheists, claim to know there is no god, or to be able to prove it

others, like myself, call ourselves agnostic atheists. agnostic comes from greek roots also
a means not
and gnostic means knowing, or in this case, more accurately, claiming to know
an agnostic does not claim to know there is no god - or to know there is one
an agnostic atheist does not make a knowledge claim, but also does not believe in a god - not that one has heard of anyway! some of us reserve the right to be interested in some new concept of what a god might be - pantheism - the belief that the all is god, is an interesting alternative view of what a god is, for example. I would not call it god, but it certainly exists, since its definition includes ((pan) all that exists - see terms like pandora, and pandemic. the term pandora's box is a mythical expression for the slang term, all hell broke loose, for example.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#16 Jul 13, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Not sure if you got the message, but we don't believe in your imagination. It's foolish and pitiful.
looks to me as if he had accepted a bribe. megamansions in heaven for asskissers. the one vulgar word I do find useful in describing folks who are so eager to tell their God how wonderful he is. it is like offering flattery as a bribe to get some goodie in return. infantile appeasement. I adore you so gimme. I really wish you were not so extreme and so vulgar. lots of times your comments are quite good. I also wish you were not so fond of false accusations. there is plenty enough that is true one can say in criticism of people! It is embarassing to have to sort of apologize for you to idiots, when you are too nasty to them or to false accusing, and it is not useful when people wise enough to be atheists are not excellent representatives of that view. not that there is anything in the definition of atheism that requires to thereby become a nice person.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#18 Jul 13, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I take your point that most religionists do argue that religion isn't superstition.
Similarly, those who believe in witchcraft fail to regard it as superstition. I think in most cases, it may now be a matter of waiting for the penny to drop.
Religion is an important motivation of those who stone women for adultary or make them marry their rapists are motivated partly by religion. Religion is outdated and detrimental to human society in the modern world. Small satanist groups (atheist or not) don't appear to offer much that is constructive. Nobody should argue with any of that, in my opinion.
I follow your comments and thanks for your reply.
it depends on how one defines religion. if one defines it broadly as a worldview, then there obviously worldviews that are not superstition. if one defines it narrowly, and thinks in terms of the three monotheistic religions, then I agree with your criticisms and your calling it superstition. I am just sensitive to the fact that often words mean different things to different people, and dictionary definitions often include several meanings. one often needs to define terms, before firing away.

for example, how many of us bother even to define the term god, before stating we believe or do not believe in such a being? many just assume that it is the fundie Biblical God they are discussing - yet even among fundies there are many different views.
a pantheist definition of god - the all that exists - is very different from a fundie definition.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#20 Jul 13, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
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NOT theism.
Anything else you add to it is a straw man position.
thank you thank you. atheist means nontheist. not a theist.

but what do you think about atheists who try to make it into more, by trying to add requirements, and telling people they aren't atheists if they disagree with them on other matters? what do you think about certain hard atheists who say agnostic atheists are theists, because we do not claim to know, and the hard atheist makes that claim? I am not the one saying a hard atheist is not an atheist. Imay say he is silly to claim to know and have proof, but I do not say he is not an atheist - unless of course it is some believer pretending to be an atheist and trying to be as obnoxious as possible. which might be true in a few cases.

there is no law that says atheists are all nice people, just because they are lucky enough to have escaped brainwashing , or escaped from it.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#21 Jul 13, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
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I call POE.
did you look at that website? is it a spoof, like fsm, or the pink pig thing?

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

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#22 Jul 13, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> did you look at that website? is it a spoof, like fsm, or the pink pig thing?
Poe's law states that without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between sincere extremism and an exaggerated parody of extremism.
redneck

Cave Junction, OR

#23 Jul 14, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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define atheism
Atheism-Without god Now you can define 'god'.

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#24 Jul 14, 2012
redneck wrote:
<quoted text>Atheism-Without god Now you can define 'god'.
So my point is Laveys satanist are atheists. That's all.

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