40 awkward Questions To Ask A Christian

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

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#145 Nov 27, 2013
The HoBo wrote:
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I understand what you're saying. I just can not see how something can be made of nothing.
Even if there were no energy or matter just before the beginning of time. How was the vacuum made to exist?
With every example, whether it's evolution or the Big Bang theory or even the christian views. I can't understand how anything can start from nothing.
Same thing goes for evolution-- the theory does not address how life got started--*at**all*.

The scientific theory of evolution is solely concerned with the observation that once life did get a toe-hold on earth? That life got more and more complex as time marched forward.

Something like 3 billion years of time, to be specific-- and most of that was the gradual development of single celled critters.

Multiple cellular life did not show up until fairly recently (timewise).

If there *was* a "higher power", why on earth did it waste so much time on bacteria' evolution?

Hmmm?

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

For your mind and soul

#146 Nov 27, 2013
You look Hispanic, are you Hispanic? Not important, but I'm just curious.
The HoBo wrote:
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I believe there has to be a higher power or something.
I.e. The Big Bang theory, if so what blew up? Something had to make what blew up.
Or evolution, what made the first organism? Something had to.
You can't get something from nothing. And you can't get THAT SOMETHING without a higher being/power.
Anyway, that's how I believe. If you or anyone else reading this believe differently, that's fine with me. I'll be the last one to try and change your mind. But I do like discussing this topic.
I respect your views. As for the higher power, one can say that something or someone needed to create the higher power in question. I cannot deny the existence of a higher power, nor can I affirm believe in it. It is like being in a bottomless pit, with no end in sight.
One thing I will say is that I doubt that there can be a deity who does nothing for us humans midst all our suffering, nor leaves any evidence of his appearance.
The HoBo wrote:
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Btw, how can a priest tell the difference between boys gym shorts and girls gym shorts? They taste different! Lmao
That is funny.

“I'm out hunting”

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#147 Nov 27, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Since you qualify it with both a willingness to discuss it, and a stated intention to *not* proselytize?
I find I can easily respect you and what you choose to believe.
All I have *ever* asked of True Believers™, is that they not force their religious bigotry onto the rest of us.
:)
As for your initial requirement of needing a higher power?
Well.... in quantum physics, we can observe many different phenomena, most of which demonstratively does not have a cause.
That is? At the quantum level of the universe? Everything is probabilistic, and uncaused.
At one point, most cosmology scientists tell us that our present universe was once likely of a quantum size-- i.e. an infinitely small point.
Since it's been demonstrated also, that in a real vacuum: particles spontaneously appear (and also disappear)
It may well be, that in the complete absence of energy/matter? That is an unstable condition, and spontaneously (i.e. without cause) energy *must* appear.
I know I'm not saying it very well-- I'm not a physicist myself. But I do pay attention when real physicists talk (or post on Topix).
And that's the gist of what they have said.
Do you work in a field of science or math?

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

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#148 Nov 27, 2013
The HoBo wrote:
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I understand what you're saying. I just can not see how something can be made of nothing.
Even if there were no energy or matter just before the beginning of time. How was the vacuum made to exist?
With every example, whether it's evolution or the Big Bang theory or even the christian views. I can't understand how anything can start from nothing.
The thing is that if you say that there has to be a higher power behind these events on the principle of 'something cannot come from nothing" than would not that principle also have to refer to the higher power? If the higher power can come from nothing, than why can't the universe. Suppose, as some believe, the universe is the higher power?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#149 Nov 27, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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Do you work in a field of science or math?
A life long compulsive reader of books, and a love of all things science.

:)

I grew up reading National Geographic magazine, among other things. Science seems to soak in, with an upbringing like that.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#150 Nov 27, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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The thing is that if you say that there has to be a higher power behind these events on the principle of 'something cannot come from nothing" than would not that principle also have to refer to the higher power? If the higher power can come from nothing, than why can't the universe. Suppose, as some believe, the universe is the higher power?
Indeed. Special pleading works equally as well for the universe itself.

And removes one level of inexplicable complexity (higher power)

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LCNLin

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#151 Nov 28, 2013
Revelation comes as Richard Dawkins and Archbishop Rowan Williams genially debate religion

RICHARD DAWKINS, usually labelled an "outspoken atheist", has raised eyebrows after describing himself as an agnostic and admitting that he cannot disprove the existence of God.

His words came during a debate at Oxford University between the evolutionary biologist and the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams.

The discussion was remarkably polite - in marked contrast to last week's backlash over Dawkins's suggestion that most people who say they are Christian do not behave like Christians and The Sunday Telegraph's bizarre attack on him based on the fact that an ancestor of his owned slaves.

Billed as an epic battle between science and religion, the BBC described the debate as "more Thought for the Day than Frost-Nixon".

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Gillette

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#152 Nov 28, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
RICHARD DAWKINS,....admitting that he cannot disprove the existence of God.
"Admitting"? Shocking! Of course, no one can disprove the existence of a supernatural being.

And everyone knows this. It;s basic logic.

So, nothing new here and nothing important.

Can you DISprove the existence of a china teapot which I claim is in orbit around the planet Saturn? No? Then it must exist, right? Or it could possibly exist?
LCNLin

United States

#153 Nov 28, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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"Admitting"? Shocking! Of course, no one can disprove the existence of a supernatural being.
And everyone knows this. It;s basic logic.
So, nothing new here and nothing important.
Can you DISprove the existence of a china teapot which I claim is in orbit around the planet Saturn? No? Then it must exist, right? Or it could possibly exist?
Debate is good for the Soul.

Dawkins seems to have moved as many other do.

Have a Great Thanksgiving.

Peace

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

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#154 Nov 28, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Revelation comes as Richard Dawkins and Archbishop Rowan Williams genially debate religion
RICHARD DAWKINS, usually labelled an "outspoken atheist", has raised eyebrows after describing himself as an agnostic and admitting that he cannot disprove the existence of God.
His words came during a debate at Oxford University between the evolutionary biologist and the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams.
The discussion was remarkably polite - in marked contrast to last week's backlash over Dawkins's suggestion that most people who say they are Christian do not behave like Christians and The Sunday Telegraph's bizarre attack on him based on the fact that an ancestor of his owned slaves.
Billed as an epic battle between science and religion, the BBC described the debate as "more Thought for the Day than Frost-Nixon".
"Not only do we need no God to explain the universe and life. God stands out in the universe as the most glaring of all superfluous sore thumbs. We cannot, of course, disprove God, just as we can't disprove Thor, fairies, leprechauns and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. But, like those other fantasies that we can't disprove, we can say that God is very very improbable."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-dawkins...

“I'm out hunting”

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#155 Nov 29, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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"Not only do we need no God to explain the universe and life. God stands out in the universe as the most glaring of all superfluous sore thumbs. We cannot, of course, disprove God, just as we can't disprove Thor, fairies, leprechauns and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. But, like those other fantasies that we can't disprove, we can say that God is very very improbable."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-dawkins...
The greatest proof that god doesn't existence, is that there is no evidence of his existence.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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#156 Nov 29, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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The greatest proof that god doesn't existence, is that there is no evidence of his existence.
Yes, indeed. The very lack of things we could call "godly" is the most dark and certain proof that no gods actually do exist.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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#157 Nov 29, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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The greatest proof that god doesn't existence, is that there is no evidence of his existence.
And I say "dark" because if there actually are gods?

They pretty much have to be evil in nature.

And that is dark indeed.

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