If a atheist on the atheism forum was president?(USA)

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“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#1 May 21, 2014
If a atheist on the atheism forum was president of USA, what would happen?
Amused

Lowell, MA

#2 May 21, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
If a atheist on the atheism forum was president of USA, what would happen?
It depends on which one. We are not fungible. Apart from lacking belief in deities, we do not necessarily share any particular viewpoint. There are left-leaning atheists and right-leaning atheists. Ayn Rand and Karl Marx were both atheists. Do you really think that they would be similar presidents because of that fact?

We can hope that a commander in chief who didn't believe in heaven or an afterlife might be a tad more cautious about putting troops in harms way, although history does not bear that out.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#3 May 21, 2014
We do not know that one of us isn't the president. And if he were in fact known to be a topix poster, would it make any difference?

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#5 May 22, 2014
if a athiest was president of america(one on the atheism forum) religion would be banned?

Thats my prediction

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#7 May 22, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
if a athiest was president of america(one on the atheism forum) religion would be banned?
Thats my prediction
No it wouldn't. U.S. presidents can't make such laws without knowing that they will be held accountable, first by their own party and then by the rest of the world. Besides the people who wish to indulge in religious nonsense be able to freely do just that, but like alcohol, drugs and tobacco children should be barred and not be able to partake until they are adults.
Consider telling the average 5 year old that the buybull god might make his parents cook and eat him, and you will have created a new "none". But wait and let that child grow up, and then have some god-pusher gently lead him into a lifetime as a 10%'er ....... and nobody* gets hurt that way.

*With the exception of the fool who is now guilty of and paying for sins he never committed.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#8 May 22, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
if a athiest was president of america(one on the atheism forum) religion would be banned?
Thats my prediction
You obviously know nothing of either the atheists on this forum, a substantial number of whom are from the UK and not eligible to be president, nor about the American system of government. Free exercise of religion is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.Only one Amendment to the Constitution has ever been repealed. No Amendment which is part of the first ten amendments referred to as the "Bill of Rights" has ever been amended, repealed or otherwise changed in any way, although interpretation of the meaning of these Amendments by the courts has changed at times.

Repeal can only be accomplished by the amendment process, which is, by design, a slow and cumbersome process, and one in which the President plays no role. The process starts with either both houses of Congress passing a resolution calling for the amendment by a 2/3 vote of each house, or a constitutional convention called for by the legislatures of 2/3 of the states.(None of the 27 Amendments to date has come about after a constitutional convention.) Then, the proposed amendment must be ratified by 3/4 of the states by vote of their legislatures. The amendment becomes effective upon the ratification by whichever state whose vote brings the total of ratifying states to 3/4. Notice that the President is not mentioned at all in this process.

Congress must approve proposed legislation and send it to the President for signature or veto. The President cannot enact legislation, only veto legislation sent to him by Congress.(Congress can override the veto with a 2/3 vote of each house. The legislation then becomes law without the president's signature.)

Domestically, the President has limited ability to make law or policy without Congress. In foreign policy matters, he has much more latitude. In the event the President took an action that contravened the Constitution or a law enacted by Congress, the Courts would strike down the President's action as unconstitutional or unlawful.

In short, the idea of the President unilaterally abolishing freedom of religion is absurd. It would require the concurrence of 2/3 of each house of Congress and the legislatures of 3/4 of the 50 states. It took decades for that process to give women the right to vote.

In addition to all of the above, any President who thinks the most pressing issue facing the United States is whether people talk to an imaginary friend would be grossly incompetent by virtue of that lack of understanding of the tasks before him (or her).

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#9 May 23, 2014
And see, u atheists just admitted to me, people are free to believe whatever they want!!!

So you atheists can sit in front of your computer and type how bad religion is and it wont make a difference at all.

Im trying to point out is that why express your opinion on religion if it wont change one damn mind of any religous person on this forum
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Lowell, MA

#11 May 23, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
And see, u atheists just admitted to me, people are free to believe whatever they want!!!
So you atheists can sit in front of your computer and type how bad religion is and it wont make a difference at all.
Im trying to point out is that why express your opinion on religion if it wont change one damn mind of any religous person on this forum
Interesting attempt at recovery. After you made an absurd prediction, and its absurdity was pointed out to you in great detail, you try to salvage some shred of dignity by claiming that you were trying to prove some other point, which is the opposite of the absurd prediction.

So yes, you've found us out. We are not interested in imposing our belief on others by fiat. A point of distinction between us and theists, I might add. We respect your right to believe whatever you want, no matter how silly your beliefs are to us. We do, however, exercise our freedom of speech to point and laugh. We are well aware that most believers are immune to facts and logic, and that it is futile to attempt to reason people out of beliefs they did not adopt through reasoning. We especially appreciate that we will not change the mind of any believer, "on this forum". It takes a special kind of stupid for theists to come here thinking that they are going to convert the atheists here. Only those whose brains are completely impervious to logic or facts think coming into the atheist forum to preach is a worthwhile endeavor. You can slap a great big Exhibit A sticker on your forehead now.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#12 May 23, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
And see, u atheists just admitted to me, people are free to believe whatever they want!!!
So you atheists can sit in front of your computer and type how bad religion is and it wont make a difference at all.
Im trying to point out is that why express your opinion on religion if it wont change one damn mind of any religous person on this forum
Admitted to you?

Duh! It wasn't like it's a secret. It's like what a huge part of our government is about, it's what we are guaranteed, and it's why the first settlers here, left their own home lands.

Funny,how those settlers almost immediately began trying to force their religion on the native peoples, isn't it. It's very much like what is happening now, with about a million Christains trying to force their own brand of religion onto to the public sector, in every way possible. Infiltrate OUR government, and OUR schools, OUR laws, and worst of all most of them know nothing of what they are pushing.

Seriously, how many Christains do you think actually know that Allah, Yahweh and Jehovah are one and the same?

Or how many know that as Jehovah, he may make them cook and eat their own children?

Or as Allah, he demands the death of every non-Islamic on earth?

Or as Yahweh, he allows a girl just 3 years and 1 day old to become bride to an adult man?

How much of this do you want written into our laws? Your Arabic god-myth wants it all.

We get it, your mind is made up, but before a law would give my 3 year old granddaughter to any man as wife, you will hear a volley of opposistion that will drown out the thunders. We have become human, we have become a global nation and we can now see the decimation that religion has brought and is still bringing to almost every place it has ever touched. And we will stand up and say NO!

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