Atheism 101: Negative belief is belief nonetheless

Feb 13, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Examiner.com

Do you like this Article? A common claim of many atheists is that atheism is not a belief, but a lack of one.A You can see this claim being debated in the discussion of the article, Atheists: They Exist in Modesto, California! posted on Friendly Atheist .A However, a lack of belief in either a theist or atheist direction is apisticism -someone who ...

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What a steaming pile of drivel.

If someone does not belong to any political party and objects to the existence of organized political ideologies, does that many the person a "nihilist" or "anarchist"?

No, it doesn't. Those two labels are hurled by the political parties and the ignorant at those who object to corrupt ideologies and dogmas. Wanting a government and laws based on rational and reasonable policy instead of narrowminded and gainsaying political groups does not make one a member of a political group.

If you don't the analogy, then it shows how worthless your drivel above truly is - and the how mentally inept one would be to continue "thinking" that drivel.

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Never forget: "bald" is a hair-color to godbots.

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Not playing a sport is a sport?
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One belief times all the other beliefs could be tens of thousands times zero belief equals ZERO BELIEF. MATH!
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Not playing a sport is a sport?
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If atheism is not a belief, and I believe it is not, do I believe or not?

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If atheism is not a belief, and I believe it is not, do I believe or not?
LOL!

In this case? Your 'belief' is based on empirical evidence.

So, in a manner of speaking, you do 'believe'.

On the other hand? Your 'belief' is not in the same category as someone who claims "Gawd is Real".

>>THAT<< person has nothing to base their claims on-- they are literally jumping to a "conclusion" for no reason at all.

So if you spot an animal in the water, who swims well, has scales and is adapted to live in water?

Is it a fish? Most of the time.

But sometimes it's a water-living lizard.

The difference is in the details.
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
Never forget: "bald" is a hair-color to godbots.
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Never forget this about the above poster: This is the hateful enslaving career of an ex-Christian.
We'll never see love from this steamed vegetable again.
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John B wrote:
If atheism is not a belief, and I believe it is not, do I believe or not?
Atheism is a religion. A religion where its members are so ashamed of their weak faith that there is no God that they have to band together to form any kind of semblance of hope.
Pull this forum from the 'net and they'll panic and go ballistic. They can't support their tripe alone.

Atheism is dying soon and very quickly and that is why they are in a rage.

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Feb 19, 2011
 
Pretty silly article:

"There are positive and negative aspects to every belief, whether or not it is an 'ism'."

"positive and negative aspects to every belief"

"belief"

Yes: every BELIEF. Not LACK of belief.

I do NOT b-e-l-i-e-v-e in any gods. That's a LACK of belief. God is not real, no belief required.
Atheist

I DO believe that religion is harmful to mankind. That's a belief, not based upon faith alone. Religion is real, belief required.
Anti-theist

I do NOT believe in Santa Claus. That's a LACK of belief. Santa is not real, no belief required.
Asantaclaus

I DO believe that trusted adults lying to children is a bad thing, generally. Secular Xmas is real, belief required.
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porter wrote:
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Atheism is a religion.
Let's make it a religion !
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
porter wrote:
A religion where its members are so ashamed of their weak faith that there is no God that they have to band together to form any kind of semblance of hope.
Sounds like you've had your xian azz handed to you many times. LMAO! Unfortunately for you: even in "bands" ya'll just cannot seem to support your pathetic belief system.
porter wrote:
Pull this forum from the 'net and they'll panic and go ballistic. They can't support their tripe alone.
Not at all. We'll just do what ya'll do: invade your forums. It's a 2 way street...which is something xians cannot stand. Ya'll want everything YOUR way, yet you cannot defend YOUR WAY! LMAO @ U !
porter wrote:
Atheism is dying soon and very quickly and that is why they are in a rage.
Right. Right. You just keep telling yourself that. It is Xianity and religion that is on the decline, atheism and agnosticism is on the rise. The only thing propping up xianity globally is 3rd world (uneducated) countries and new births (<--yeah, little people without choice.

You have lost much ground in industrialized countries the globe over.

Morally ya'll suck too:

Christianity is down 11% in the US of A. As it falls...the other countries will follow. The only thing propping up it's numbers now is births and 3rd world countries....most of which are HIGHLY uneducated.

Notice the direct correlation between lower IQ, higher crime, teenage pregnancy and poverty:
http://i.imgur.com/xyH3n.png

During the 20th century prior to 1990, the popularity of Christianity had been stable in the U.S. About 87% of adults identified themselves as Christians. The country then experienced a major change. Significant numbers of American adults began to disaffiliate themselves from Christianity and from other organized religions. By 2008, the percentage of Christians had reached 76% and is believed to be continuing its decline.
-11%
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.h...

From 1972 to 1993, the General Social Survey of the National Opinion Research Center found that Protestants constituted about 63% of the population. This declined to 52% in 2002. Protestants are believed to have slipped to a minority position sometime between 2004 and 2006 for the first time since the year 1776.
-11%
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2b....

Morally the religious fail miserably:

Teen pregnancy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_pregnanc...

Comparison of abortion statistics in the U.S., France, Germany and the Netherlands:
Advocates for Youth report the following annual rates, per thousand adolescents:
Factor United States France Germany Netherlands
Pregnancy 79.8 20.2 25% 16.1 20% 8.7 11%
Births 48.7 10.0 21% 12.5 26% 4.5 9%
Abortions 27.5 10.2 37% 5.6 20% 4.2 15%
The percentages show the rate for each country expressed as a percentage of the U.S. value. For example, the Netherlands abortion rate per year is 4.2 per thousand adolescents which is about 15% of the American figure.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/pregadol.ht...
Netherlands is the lowest, yet has a population with 42% no religion.
France is next to the US and has a 96% religious population.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...

Variation in divorce rates by religion:

Religion % have been divorced
Jews 30%
Born-again Christians 27%
Other Christians 24%
Atheists, Agnostics 21%
Christians account for 51%
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.ht...

You are just another ignorant fool who thinks you are actually smart enough to GUESS reality.
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...and the majority of people in the US prison system are christians and less than 1% are atheist.
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Atheism is a religion. A religion where its members are so ashamed of their weak faith that there is no God that they have to band together to form any kind of semblance of hope.
Pull this forum from the 'net and they'll panic and go ballistic. They can't support their tripe alone.
Atheism is dying soon and very quickly and that is why they are in a rage.
You are a fool. Atheists do not meet once a week to go to our support group.

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<quoted text>You are a fool. Atheists do not meet once a week to go to our support group.
Church attendance isn't a support group.

It's massive circle jerk, all of them rubbing their hands together in front of themselves, and all fantasizing about Feces Christ, or whatever its name is.

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That is 100 percent spot on! This is all some of them have. They should get together, donate time, food, work in shelters, SOMETHING! But no....alas they only band together on Topix. Kind of sad.
porter wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a religion. A religion where its members are so ashamed of their weak faith that there is no God that they have to band together to form any kind of semblance of hope.
Pull this forum from the 'net and they'll panic and go ballistic. They can't support their tripe alone.
Atheism is dying soon and very quickly and that is why they are in a rage.

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Correct, it is not a support group, though we do all support each other and our communities and do a lot of good within our communities.
Actually we get together to pray to God, to pray for those who have departed, to pray for those lost souls, etc. Have meetings, work at soup kitchens, teach, and visit homebound seniors. What do you do for your community under the umbrella of atheism?
Your blasphemy shows some serious disturbance. Why is it you feel the need to do that? I still don't get it. Are we not all adults? Do we make up ridiculous names for atheists? NO. So why the hostility, I don't believe in other religions, yet I don't mock them. No one can seem to answer that question. Is it to "fit in and feel cool" with the other atheists that do it?
P_Smith wrote:
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Church attendance isn't a support group.
It's massive circle jerk, all of them rubbing their hands together in front of themselves, and all fantasizing about Feces Christ, or whatever its name is.
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76 percent of adults is a pretty good number. In comparison to atheists, what are their percentages?
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Let's make it a religion !
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
<quoted text>
Sounds like you've had your xian azz handed to you many times. LMAO! Unfortunately for you: even in "bands" ya'll just cannot seem to support your pathetic belief system.
<quoted text>
Not at all. We'll just do what ya'll do: invade your forums. It's a 2 way street...which is something xians cannot stand. Ya'll want everything YOUR way, yet you cannot defend YOUR WAY! LMAO @ U !
<quoted text>
Right. Right. You just keep telling yourself that. It is Xianity and religion that is on the decline, atheism and agnosticism is on the rise. The only thing propping up xianity globally is 3rd world (uneducated) countries and new births (<--yeah, little people without choice.
You have lost much ground in industrialized countries the globe over.
Morally ya'll suck too:
Christianity is down 11% in the US of A. As it falls...the other countries will follow. The only thing propping up it's numbers now is births and 3rd world countries....most of which are HIGHLY uneducated.
Notice the direct correlation between lower IQ, higher crime, teenage pregnancy and poverty:
http://i.imgur.com/xyH3n.png
During the 20th century prior to 1990, the popularity of Christianity had been stable in the U.S. About 87% of adults identified themselves as Christians. The country then experienced a major change. Significant numbers of American adults began to disaffiliate themselves from Christianity and from other organized religions. By 2008, the percentage of Christians had reached 76% and is believed to be continuing its decline.
-11%
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.h...
From 1972 to 1993, the General Social Survey of the National Opinion Research Center found that Protestants constituted about 63% of the population. This declined to 52% in 2002. Protestants are believed to have slipped to a minority position sometime between 2004 and 2006 for the first time since the year 1776.
-11%
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2b....
Morally the religious fail miserably:
Teen pregnancy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_pregnanc...
Comparison of abortion statistics in the U.S., France, Germany and the Netherlands:
Advocates for Youth report the following annual rates, per thousand adolescents:
Factor United States France Germany Netherlands
Pregnancy 79.8 20.2 25% 16.1 20% 8.7 11%
Births 48.7 10.0 21% 12.5 26% 4.5 9%
Abortions 27.5 10.2 37% 5.6 20% 4.2 15%
The percentages show the rate for each country expressed as a percentage of the U.S. value. For example, the Netherlands abortion rate per year is 4.2 per thousand adolescents which is about 15% of the American figure.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/pregadol.ht...
Netherlands is the lowest, yet has a population with 42% no religion.
France is next to the US and has a 96% religious population.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...
Variation in divorce rates by religion:
Religion % have been divorced
Jews 30%
Born-again Christians 27%
Other Christians 24%
Atheists, Agnostics 21%
Christians account for 51%
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.ht...
You are just another ignorant fool who thinks you are actually smart enough to GUESS reality.
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That is 100 percent spot on! This is all some of them have. They should get together, donate time, food, work in shelters, SOMETHING! But no....alas they only band together on Topix. Kind of sad.
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Here I am you little toad -- to point out your near bottomless well of stupidity.

So now you know who does and doesn't donate their time and resources? Is it the same way you if they have children, and if so, how many? Is it how you tell if they're single, hetero, homo? Come on dummy -- enlighten us!

LOL!

Look who's all over the threads like a metastasizing carcinoma!

LOL!
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East Haven 5 wrote:
76 percent of adults is a pretty good number. In comparison to atheists, what are their percentages?
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That's the logical fallacy called "appeal to numbers," you idiot. Next, you'll "appeal to authority!"

There's hundreds of them, and you christers have hit on just about every one!

LOL!
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East Haven 5 wrote:
Correct, it is not a support group, though we do all support each other and our communities and do a lot of good within our communities.
Actually we get together to pray to God, to pray for those who have departed, to pray for those lost souls, etc. Have meetings, work at soup kitchens, teach, and visit homebound seniors. What do you do for your community under the umbrella of atheism?
Your blasphemy shows some serious disturbance. Why is it you feel the need to do that? I still don't get it. Are we not all adults? Do we make up ridiculous names for atheists? NO. So why the hostility, I don't believe in other religions, yet I don't mock them. No one can seem to answer that question. Is it to "fit in and feel cool" with the other atheists that do it?
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Wow, another smart person thinks you're an azzhole!

What a SHOCK!

LOL!

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