Atheism and depression

Atheism and depression

There are 620 comments on the Examiner.com story from Apr 13, 2013, titled Atheism and depression. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

I've heard from Ray Comfort and other public figures that atheism and depression go hand-in-hand, as if true happiness requires belief in Yahweh.

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“1000 Sting of Scorpion to you”

Since: Feb 07

Jurassic, Indiana

#694 Jul 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So what? I've had Wi-Fi coverage all the way to the end of my gardens since 2003.
<quoted text>
> Do tell! The Gardens of Gesemene?
<:)

“1000 Sting of Scorpion to you”

Since: Feb 07

Jurassic, Indiana

#695 Jul 19, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes.
Hate.
You come into the **atheists** forum, spewing your hateful rhetoric, and calling people all sorts of juvenile names.
Of course we perceive you as being full of hate.
You might try being nice for once in your life.
Too much to ask?
That ...
... is entirely to be expected.
> Bob, Bob, Bob ... control yourself young 'un! Don't be so hateful, saying Osama is full of hate! Osama likes everybody! Osama does not hate anyone! It's true, Osama, does use juvenile names to describe juveniles. Osama uses grownup names to describe grownups, which unfortunately, do not reside on this particular thread. So, in conclusion, if you see yourself being called a juvenile ... it is only because you haven't matured yet as an adult, or, you have yet to reach puberty. Now, Bob, please take off your Mickey Mouse ears, and Superman cape, and go read your Jack & Jill books. Yep, that's an excellent start for you maturing into adulthood! Happy reading, and have a good one ... ya hear!?
<:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#696 Jul 19, 2013
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
With all the salt, fat, sugar and chemical additives in Mickey's food, a god in their own image would also be obese. Sad that Ais E can't afford his own wi-fi service and has to go to Mickey's to use the internet. Sadder still if that's his/her idea of fine dining.
I suspect he often scrounges in their dumpsters out back, especially just after they have dumped out the out-of-date burgers they couldn't sell....

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#697 Jul 19, 2013
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>
Whilst I agree McD is junk food, you can't beat a big mac as an occasional treat.
I admit I like those once in a blue moon.

They used to have a pretty good mushroom and swiss burger, but alas, they've dropped that from the menu-- I walked out, when I was told they did not sell those anymore.

:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#698 Jul 19, 2013
Osama bin-Saban wrote:
<quoted text>> Bob, Bob, Bob ... control yourself young 'un! Don't be so hateful, saying Osama is full of hate! Osama likes everybody! Osama does not hate anyone! It's true, Osama, does use juvenile names to describe juveniles. Osama uses grownup names to describe grownups, which unfortunately, do not reside on this particular thread. So, in conclusion, if you see yourself being called a juvenile ... it is only because you haven't matured yet as an adult, or, you have yet to reach puberty. Now, Bob, please take off your Mickey Mouse ears, and Superman cape, and go read your Jack & Jill books. Yep, that's an excellent start for you maturing into adulthood! Happy reading, and have a good one ... ya hear!?
<:)
The above gibberish? Is a classic example of Genuine Christians Fundamentalism Speaking In Tongues™

It is considered to be high talent among many sects of Genuine Christians™, notably any that also consider public education and "skoolin'" to be a form of devil worship.

In the more civilized world, such bizarre behavior is seen as a mental aberration, and often treatment is quite successful.

Treatment consists of a full round of quality education, beginning with a secular study of the history of the bible and christianity.

Most patents make a full recovery, and go on to lead normal, productive lives free from further brain damage.

“1000 Sting of Scorpion to you”

Since: Feb 07

Jurassic, Indiana

#699 Jul 19, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>The above gibberish? Is a classic example of Genuine Christians Fundamentalism Speaking In Tongues™
It is considered to be high talent among many sects of Genuine Christians™, notably any that also consider public education and "skoolin'" to be a form of devil worship.
In the more civilized world, such bizarre behavior is seen as a mental aberration, and often treatment is quite successful.
Treatment consists of a full round of quality education, beginning with a secular study of the history of the bible and christianity.
Most patents make a full recovery, and go on to lead normal, productive lives free from further brain damage.
> Bob, how many times have you cut and posted the above post? ANSWER: Too many! Now, put down your Ken Barbie Doll... uh, I mean Ken Action Figure and get to your chores ... bail that hay, then tote that bail ... ye hear!?
>:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#700 Jul 19, 2013
Osama bin-Saban wrote:
<quoted text>> Bob, how many times have you cut and posted the above post? ANSWER: Too many! Now, put down your Ken Barbie Doll... uh, I mean Ken Action Figure and get to your chores ... bail that hay, then tote that bail ... ye hear!?
>:)
The above gibberish? Is a classic example of Genuine Christians Fundamentalism Speaking In Tongues™

It is considered to be high talent among many sects of Genuine Christians™, notably any that also consider public education and "skoolin'" to be a form of devil worship.

In the more civilized world, such bizarre behavior is seen as a mental aberration, and often treatment is quite successful.

Treatment consists of a full round of quality education, beginning with a secular study of the history of the bible and christianity.

Most patents make a full recovery, and go on to lead normal, productive lives free from further brain damage. 3

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#703 Jul 20, 2013
atheism is evil wrote:
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Your cult is being destroyed as it becomes exposed.
Where the hell have you been? Atheism has been around for quite a while darlin. Not much more to talk about...and destroyed....no. Oh is Atheism a cult, or a religion?

I had never actually looked up the definition of cult, but it works very well for your religion I think.

cult
/k&#601;lt/
Noun

A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.

Synonyms
worship - religion - adoration

hmmmmmm... I'm pretty sure that you won't be smart enough to grasp this definition and understand that Atheism does not a cult make, but no worries...us normal people will keep doin all the thinkin for you.

Since: Aug 12

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#704 Jul 21, 2013
Cult: a small, unpopular religion

Religion: a large, popular cult
atheism is evil wrote:
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It just irritates you that I show everyone everywhere I go your ugly behavior and posts. All agree that crud like you are the problem of the world.
Atheists are simpletons unwilling to be responsible for their actions.

Since: Jun 13

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#705 Jul 21, 2013
swerty wrote:
Cult: a small, unpopular religion
Religion: a large, popular cult<quoted text>
I don't think of Atheism as a religion, but this was a much better way to put it.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#706 Jul 21, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think of Atheism as a religion, but this was a much better way to put it.
Atheism isn't a religion. It's whatever is left, after you **remove** the mental processes of religion.

It's the default, or null set, when there is no religion or religious indoctrination.

Atheism is often confused with scientific evolution, which it isn't.

Atheism is akin to reality:

When you **stop** believing in all religion? You are, by default, an atheist.

Reality is whatever is left over, after you **stop** believing.

Hope this helps.

:D

Since: Jun 13

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#707 Jul 21, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Atheism isn't a religion. It's whatever is left, after you **remove** the mental processes of religion.
It's the default, or null set, when there is no religion or religious indoctrination.
Atheism is often confused with scientific evolution, which it isn't.
Atheism is akin to reality:
When you **stop** believing in all religion? You are, by default, an atheist.
Reality is whatever is left over, after you **stop** believing.
Hope this helps.
:D
It does help... I have yet to classify myself. I wonder what I would be considered...I'm going to have to do some more research on the different beliefs. My boyfriend told me once that I was more agnostic probably. I've never looked it up though...I may go do that right now :D

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#708 Jul 21, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
It does help... I have yet to classify myself. I wonder what I would be considered...I'm going to have to do some more research on the different beliefs. My boyfriend told me once that I was more agnostic probably. I've never looked it up though...I may go do that right now :D
Agnosticism is a position on what's possible to know (or not).

The "gnosticism" root means "knowing" or "knowledge".

Agnosticism simply means that you don't believe it's possible to have knowledge or to know about ... XXX.

The XXX is typically god, but can apply to anything supernatural.

So it's not a "half way point" between theism and atheism.

There is no such position-- either you do believe in supernatural, or you don't.

If you do: theist.

If you do not: atheist.

A person can easily waver between the two states-of-mind throughout most of their life-- no big deal, really.

But belief is kind of like being pregnant or being dead:

You either are/do, or you are not/don't.

:D

So what does all that mean?

Well:

You can be an atheist and an agnostic too.

Or you can be an atheist and a gnostic.

Or a theist and an agnostic.

Or a theist and a gnostic.

In the first place? You don't believe (atheist) and you don't think it's possible to have knowledge* about supernatural stuff (agnostic).

* the knowledge does not have to be certain, here to qualify for agnostic-- but sometimes is expressed that way.

In the second position: You don't believe (atheist) and you think it's possible to be sure that there are no gods of any kind (gnostic).

In the third position: You do believe in some sort of supernatural XX, you are theist. But you don't think it's possible to be really certain about any of that (agnostic).

And the last position: You do believe in some sort of supernatural XX (theist), and you are certain there is knowledge confirming that belief (gnostic).

Hope this helps.

:D

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#709 Jul 21, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Agnosticism is a position on what's possible to know (or not).
The "gnosticism" root means "knowing" or "knowledge".
Agnosticism simply means that you don't believe it's possible to have knowledge or to know about ... XXX.
The XXX is typically god, but can apply to anything supernatural.
So it's not a "half way point" between theism and atheism.
There is no such position-- either you do believe in supernatural, or you don't.
If you do: theist.
If you do not: atheist.
A person can easily waver between the two states-of-mind throughout most of their life-- no big deal, really.
But belief is kind of like being pregnant or being dead:
You either are/do, or you are not/don't.
:D
So what does all that mean?
Well:
You can be an atheist and an agnostic too.
Or you can be an atheist and a gnostic.
Or a theist and an agnostic.
Or a theist and a gnostic.
In the first place? You don't believe (atheist) and you don't think it's possible to have knowledge* about supernatural stuff (agnostic).
* the knowledge does not have to be certain, here to qualify for agnostic-- but sometimes is expressed that way.
In the second position: You don't believe (atheist) and you think it's possible to be sure that there are no gods of any kind (gnostic).
In the third position: You do believe in some sort of supernatural XX, you are theist. But you don't think it's possible to be really certain about any of that (agnostic).
And the last position: You do believe in some sort of supernatural XX (theist), and you are certain there is knowledge confirming that belief (gnostic).
Hope this helps.
:D
So I can say that I do not believe in a biblical "christian" god, or any god really. I trust science and it's findings and research. I don't know what actually may happen to us when we die. As I've told you before, I like to not think that we simply go to dirt. I like to think about different possibilities of an afterlife, but I find that having so many different options that I could possibly choose from makes me feel better *smiles. I really do keep the idea that no one really knows what happens to us when we die. I feel the only way that I will know anything is after I die and if I go straight to the dirt with nothing after, then I guess I won't be too worried about it anyway :D

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#710 Jul 21, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Agnosticism is a position on what's possible to know (or not).
The "gnosticism" root means "knowing" or "knowledge".
Agnosticism simply means that you don't believe it's possible to have knowledge or to know about ... XXX.
The XXX is typically god, but can apply to anything supernatural.
So it's not a "half way point" between theism and atheism.
There is no such position-- either you do believe in supernatural, or you don't.
If you do: theist.
If you do not: atheist.
A person can easily waver between the two states-of-mind throughout most of their life-- no big deal, really.
But belief is kind of like being pregnant or being dead:
You either are/do, or you are not/don't.
:D
So what does all that mean?
Well:
You can be an atheist and an agnostic too.
Or you can be an atheist and a gnostic.
Or a theist and an agnostic.
Or a theist and a gnostic.
In the first place? You don't believe (atheist) and you don't think it's possible to have knowledge* about supernatural stuff (agnostic).
* the knowledge does not have to be certain, here to qualify for agnostic-- but sometimes is expressed that way.
In the second position: You don't believe (atheist) and you think it's possible to be sure that there are no gods of any kind (gnostic).
In the third position: You do believe in some sort of supernatural XX, you are theist. But you don't think it's possible to be really certain about any of that (agnostic).
And the last position: You do believe in some sort of supernatural XX (theist), and you are certain there is knowledge confirming that belief (gnostic).
Hope this helps.
:D
I have also, always, toyed with the notion of ghosts...especially after my mom died. I like to think that her energy is still around me. Makes me feel better.:D

Since: Jun 13

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#713 Jul 21, 2013
atheism is evil wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, and lots of folks have gone to Hell because of it.
I know you know all about hell darlin. ;)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#714 Jul 21, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
So I can say that I do not believe in a biblical "christian" god, or any god really. I trust science and it's findings and research. I don't know what actually may happen to us when we die. As I've told you before, I like to not think that we simply go to dirt. I like to think about different possibilities of an afterlife, but I find that having so many different options that I could possibly choose from makes me feel better *smiles. I really do keep the idea that no one really knows what happens to us when we die. I feel the only way that I will know anything is after I die and if I go straight to the dirt with nothing after, then I guess I won't be too worried about it anyway :D
Then?

You are an agnostic-atheist.

Like me, actually-- for I have the same doubts you express above.

I would **love** for there to be a magical sky-fairy who has made immortality a reality.

Alas, I cannot make myself believe in such a wildassed thing.

No reason to believe it, so I don't.

But I'm hardly 100% certain.. so that makes me an agnostic too.

:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#715 Jul 21, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
I have also, always, toyed with the notion of ghosts...especially after my mom died. I like to think that her energy is still around me. Makes me feel better.:D
Well... the evidence is strongly against such things.

But yeah, it'd be kinda cool if ghosts were real....

... well....

....... unless **you** were the ghost, trapped somehow, merely haunting an area or person or thing.

That would kinda suck.

;)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#716 Jul 21, 2013
atheism is evil wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, and lots of folks have gone to Hell because of it.
Remember: only TERRORISTS use torture.

You?

You worship a common terrorist-god-- who uses torture.

Sickening.
LCNLin

United States

#718 Dec 4, 2013
Some Agnostics have criticised Atheism

for being too dogmatic or definitive a position.

The Enlightenment philosopher Voltaire, a deist, queried the implications of godlessness in a disorderly world.

The father of Classical Liberalism, John Locke, believed that the denial of God's existence would undermine the social order and lead to chaos.

Edmund Burke, a name associated with both modern conservatism and liberalism, saw religion as the basis of civil society and wrote that "man is by his constitution a religious animal; that atheism is against, not only our reason, but our instincts; and that it cannot prevail long".

Pope Pius XI wrote that Communist atheism was aimed at "upsetting the social order and at undermining the very foundations of Christian civilization".

The advocacy of atheism by some of the more violent exponents of the French Revolution, the subsequent militancy of Marxist-Leninist atheism, and prominence of atheism in totalitarian states formed in the 20th century has led to critical assessments of the implications of atheism.

In his Reflections on the Revolution in France, Burke railed against "atheistical fanaticism".

The 1937 papal encyclical Divini Redemptoris denounced the atheism of the Soviet Union under

Joseph Stalin,

which was later influential in the establishment of state atheism across Eastern Europe and elsewhere, including

Mao Zedong's China,

Communist North Korea and

Pol Pot's Cambodia. Critics of atheism often associate the actions of 20th-century state atheism with broader atheism in their critiques.

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