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'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1749 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
first off, Gillette I had to chuckle, no actually I laughed, when you used the term "bronze age" because that is an atheist calling card. Its a dead giveaway that you are an atheist because you all use the exact same lingo. Just thought it was funny.
Secondly, I love how you say "we all know" like its actually true. Well I have a newsflash for ya, not all people agree there wasn't a worldwide flood. If you would stay off the atheist websites you would realize there is a whole other world out there. Your hate is amazing.
Thirdly, I love how atheists take little verses here and there and play the "gotcha" game. Reminds me of some politicians. Why don't you take one afternoon and really research all these supposed contradictions. I'm not talking about evilbible.com or some other ridiculous hate site. I mean do some real research and you will find out exactly how wrong you actually are. FOR EXAMPLE, the time of death is no contradiction. Mark and John used two different time systems. Mark used the Jewish and John used the Roman. This means they were both right and there is no contradiction. Now go figure out the rest for yourself and stay off those hate websites because they are laughable.
None of this silly story adds up - no proof, goes against what science has proven and sound stupider every time you hear this cr*p from mentally ill bullies.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1750 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
lol that website reads like it was either written by a 5th grader or someone who is just as crazy as you. Thanks for the laugh.
You are welcome!

You will note that the website was deliberately written **down** to the requisite level needed to understand the evil bible.

I think they did pretty well-- but 5th grade may have been too lofty.

Because it's clear you could not **refute** anything it presented.

Perhaps if they had written it down to a first grade reading level?

No?

Still too much for you?

Hmmmm...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1751 Sep 15, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
Precisely :-)...that was very clear and precise
But, alas, too much for his reading skill...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1752 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
You made a claim that the bible has been proven wrong on many occassions.
Correct. We proved it wrong on those same occasions.(the correct spelling of "occasion" by the way...)
antiatheist wrote:
I asked you to provide me with several of these ...
We did.. several times.

http://www.evilbible.com/
antiatheist wrote:
... and you aren't able to do so.
Lie. Here it is again: http://www.evilbible.com/
antiatheist wrote:
All you can do is give me some crazy, hate filled website provided by probably one of the craziest people I've ever heard. You are pathetic
Indeed-- the bible **is** crazy and evil!

More, the bible **IS** full of evil!

Good! You UNDERSTAND, now!
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1753 Sep 15, 2013
ha.....I call gillette on his ignorance and he resorts to name calling. Not used to being called out on your bs? Completely different days? I just explained that to you. I'm not surprised you can't understand it though. Go crawl back under the rock you came out of. Loser
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#1754 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1755 Sep 15, 2013
lol ... this is a great example of the kinds of things you guys read.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1756 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
ha.....I call gillette on his ignorance and he resorts to name calling. Not used to being called out on your bs? Completely different days? I just explained that to you. I'm not surprised you can't understand it though. Go crawl back under the rock you came out of. Loser
You're actually too stupid to follow along with the biblical problem, aren't you, pervert?

My question said NOTHING about the time of day but instead pointed out that one gospel has Jesus dying on the first day of Passover, while the other has jesus dying on the Day of Preparation for the Passover, the day the lambs are killed.

Contradiction. And one well known for centuries.

And you have no answer, do you, hillbilly?

LOL!
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1757 Sep 15, 2013
http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/passover...

WHEN DID JESUS DIE? THE GOSPELS DON'T AGREE

Nick Gier, Professor Emeritus
University of Idaho (ngier@uidaho.edu)

In 2002 the Jewish Passover coincided with the Jewish Sabbath. I am unaware how frequently this actually happens, but one such coincidence is recorded in the Gospel of John. John indicates that Jesus died as the paschal lambs were being slaughtered for a "high day"--a double holy day when Passover and the Sabbath coincided (see John 13:1; 18:28; 18;39; 19:14; 19:31). Calender experts tell us that this date was most likely April 7, A.D. 30.

The Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) have a different story. They say that the Last Supper was a passover meal eaten on a Thursday, on the eve of the day before the Sabbath (see Mk. 14:12). Jesus dies on the eve of the Sabbath, which, if correct, would have been April 2, 33 C.E. Jesus explicitly asks his disciples to prepare a passover supper, but, oddly enough, during the meal there is no paschal lamb and the wrong bread is eaten.

Who is correct, John or the Synoptics? Jewish sources definitely support John's account: "Jesus was hanged as a false teach er and beguiler on the eve of the Passover which was also a Sabbath." The most convincing evidence is the fact that the early church celebrated Jesus' death on John's date, the 14th day of the Jewish month Nisan. The Synoptics have him dying on 15th Nisan.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1758 Sep 15, 2013
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows...

L. Michael White: Professor of Classics and Director of the Religious Studies Program University of Texas at Austin

John's gospel is different from the other three in the New Testament. That fact has been recognized since the early church itself. Already by the year 200, John's gospel was called the spiritual gospel precisely because it told the story of Jesus in symbolic ways that differ sharply at times from the other three.

For example, Jesus dies on a different day in John's gospel than in Matthew, Mark and Luke....

Whereas in the three synoptic gospels Jesus actually eats a passover meal before he dies, in John's gospel he doesn't. The last supper is actually eaten before the beginning of passover. So that the sequence of events leading up to the actual crucifixion are very different for John's gospel.

And one has to look at it in say, why is the story so different? How do we account for these differences in terms of the way the story-telling developed?

And the answer becomes fairly clear when we realize that Jesus has had the last supper a day before so that he's hanging on the cross during the day of preparation before the beginning of Passover.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#1759 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
iseeyou all you gave me was that you didn't believe in miracles performed in the bible. That doesn't mean the bible isn't true or that these things didn't occur. Again, give me some things in the bible that aren't true or be quiet.
You are a waste of time... I will not repeat myself. If you are going to pretend like these things are possible, or that they have not been proven impossible then this conversation will be FIN.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#1760 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
first off, Gillette I had to chuckle, no actually I laughed, when you used the term "bronze age" because that is an atheist calling card. Its a dead giveaway that you are an atheist because you all use the exact same lingo. Just thought it was funny.
Secondly, I love how you say "we all know" like its actually true. Well I have a newsflash for ya, not all people agree there wasn't a worldwide flood. If you would stay off the atheist websites you would realize there is a whole other world out there. Your hate is amazing.
Thirdly, I love how atheists take little verses here and there and play the "gotcha" game. Reminds me of some politicians. Why don't you take one afternoon and really research all these supposed contradictions. I'm not talking about evilbible.com or some other ridiculous hate site. I mean do some real research and you will find out exactly how wrong you actually are. FOR EXAMPLE, the time of death is no contradiction. Mark and John used two different time systems. Mark used the Jewish and John used the Roman. This means they were both right and there is no contradiction. Now go figure out the rest for yourself and stay off those hate websites because they are laughable.
You are disgustingly ignoring the things that are put in front of you. There are things called textbooks as well, in case you've forgotten. The internet is not your only source for information. Maybe you should visit the library and then run your mouth lol.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#1761 Sep 15, 2013
Gillette wrote:
<quoted text>
You're actually too stupid to follow along with the biblical problem, aren't you, pervert?
My question said NOTHING about the time of day but instead pointed out that one gospel has Jesus dying on the first day of Passover, while the other has jesus dying on the Day of Preparation for the Passover, the day the lambs are killed.
Contradiction. And one well known for centuries.
And you have no answer, do you, hillbilly?
LOL!
Anti completely ignores everything that is said the him. It's a waste of time to try to show him where the mistakes are because he will not do the research himself and admit the mistakes. He just likes to bash atheists. Generally he does nothing but share carbon copy insults from his other christian buddies, but he also likes to accuse us of being copy cats lol. He's a very frustrating individual to deal with because you mostly feel like you are speaking to a child.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1762 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
ha.....I call gillette on his ignorance and he resorts to name calling. Not used to being called out on your bs? Completely different days? I just explained that to you. I'm not surprised you can't understand it though. Go crawl back under the rock you came out of. Loser
Pigeon chess, again. It's been awhile since one of you loons excelled at it, but you are right up there in the top of the ratings.
LCNLin

United States

#1763 Sep 15, 2013
EdSed wrote:
http://www.evilbible.com/
revealing site
LCNLin

United States

#1764 Sep 15, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Pigeon chess, again. It's been awhile since one of you loons excelled at it, but you are right up there in the top of the ratings.
amusing repeat post proving nothing ....
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#1765 Sep 15, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
Anti completely ignores everything that is said the him. It's a waste of time to try to show him where the mistakes are because he will not do the research himself and admit the mistakes. He just likes to bash atheists.
Yes, I know he's a low-minded little jerk who thinks he is going to heaven to stand right by Jesus for all eternity. Whatever.

For me, it's always about those reading along, and the hope that they will read and consider. If they do, they will surely see that a literal-minded fundamentalist Christianity hasn't got a leg to stand on.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1766 Sep 15, 2013
gillette are you not able to read????? I already explained to you how this is not a contradiction. Amazing. Its kinda funny though getting under your skin so easily. You atheists are a very sensitive little group. You almost crap your pants at the very sight of the ten commandments. Losers

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#1767 Sep 15, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
gillette are you not able to read????? I already explained to you how this is not a contradiction. Amazing. Its kinda funny though getting under your skin so easily. You atheists are a very sensitive little group. You almost crap your pants at the very sight of the ten commandments. Losers
You cannot explain that it's not a contradiction because it is an obvious contradiction. You don't get under anyone's skin.... you are more like a gnat that we feel the need to swat away.

The only thing I can do is LOL to the last part of this paragraph... LOL.

It should actually be called the 9 commandments. lol

1. Do not worship any other god than the one true God. All other gods are false gods.

2. Do not make idols or images in the form of God. An idol can be anything (or anyone) you worship by giving it more importance than God. If something (or someone) has your time, attention and affections, it has your worship. It could be an idol in your life.

(These are the same)
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#1768 Sep 16, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Troll Eater Extraordinaire
If you fellate trolls, there is
no need to advertize about it.

Word of mouth should do for you.

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