'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#1391 Aug 30, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
well then you can't argue when someone does something that you don't agree with because he gets to choose HIS own morality. In other words, there is no immorality.
What theists dont want to except is the fact that even if you could put a god in the equation and say "yes our morality comes from our god", its STILL subjective. Its subjective to what the whims of the god is.

A better way of looking at it is in regards to personal well being. In that aspect we CAN SAY when things are good or bad. Like drinking battery acid is bad, along with letting someone drink battery acid.

The subject of morality isn't an easy one, and when theists pull it out like its a show stopper because they want to shoehorn their god into it like it makes the subject closed is rather laughable.

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#1393 Aug 30, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
well then you can't argue when someone does something that you don't agree with because he gets to choose HIS own morality. In other words, there is no immorality.
Incorrect...some christians believe that they shouldn't have to take their children to the hospital because "god" will heal them. I don't think this is a moral act because they will let their children die by neglecting them and not getting them medical treatment. That's why I don't really agree that I = your previous post, but it's whatever :)

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#1394 Aug 30, 2013
gotnatas wrote:
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What theists dont want to except is the fact that even if you could put a god in the equation and say "yes our morality comes from our god", its STILL subjective. Its subjective to what the whims of the god is.
A better way of looking at it is in regards to personal well being. In that aspect we CAN SAY when things are good or bad. Like drinking battery acid is bad, along with letting someone drink battery acid.
The subject of morality isn't an easy one, and when theists pull it out like its a show stopper because they want to shoehorn their god into it like it makes the subject closed is rather laughable.
That was much better said than what I have attempted before.

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#1395 Aug 30, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
well then you can't argue when someone does something that you don't agree with because he gets to choose HIS own morality. In other words, there is no immorality.
It would be ridiculous to believe that there is no immorality.... That was a very weird statement.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1396 Aug 30, 2013
not weird at all.......you said, and I quote, "when we become adults we choose our own morality". Well whats immoral to you may not be immoral to someone else. Therefor nothing is really immoral because there might be somebody out there that chose an act that others consider immoral. In other word, morality is all relative according to you.

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#1397 Aug 30, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
not weird at all.......you said, and I quote, "when we become adults we choose our own morality". Well whats immoral to you may not be immoral to someone else. Therefor nothing is really immoral because there might be somebody out there that chose an act that others consider immoral. In other word, morality is all relative according to you.
The way you are explaining that seems kind of twisty, but it sounds correct. Except for I do think there are certain things that anyone should consider wrong and right....some of those things would be the similar morals that we share that would be found in your bible :)
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1398 Aug 30, 2013
so let me get this straight.........some things are up the individual yet other things are moral absolutes. Whew where do you get this stuff

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#1399 Aug 30, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
so let me get this straight.........some things are up the individual yet other things are moral absolutes. Whew where do you get this stuff
Lol...well I don't know how else to say it. I don't think that it's ever "moral" to kill, I don't think that it's ever "moral" to steal....Those things in my opinion should always be wrong in every culture and/or society.

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#1400 Aug 31, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
so let me get this straight.........some things are up the individual yet other things are moral absolutes. Whew where do you get this stuff
all you need to do is prove your god and not be a lying little sh*t like all your cult followers.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1401 Aug 31, 2013
you might not think its moral to kill but someone else may think that it is. Thats why your moral relativity belief is crazy.

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#1402 Aug 31, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
you might not think its moral to kill but someone else may think that it is. Thats why your moral relativity belief is crazy.
No darlin...if someone else thinks its moral to kill then "they" would be crazy....this is where your thought process loses me.

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#1403 Aug 31, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
you might not think its moral to kill but someone else may think that it is. Thats why your moral relativity belief is crazy.
Just because they think it's right, doesn't mean it is.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1404 Aug 31, 2013
just because you think its wrong doesn't mean it is

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#1405 Aug 31, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
just because you think its wrong doesn't mean it is
You're a simple liar who cannot produce any evidence for the god you choose to lie about. This is fact.

You're not required to reply.

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#1406 Aug 31, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
you might not think its moral to kill but someone else may think that it is. Thats why your moral relativity belief is crazy.
It's immoral to lie about. God you can't prove and that lying about e fact of evolution shows us at you have no morals to begin with.

We have witnessed high levels of stupidity from every single creationist poster here in the last 5 years.

Don't be another statistic.

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#1407 Aug 31, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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That was much better said than what I have attempted before.
And this from a gentleman and a scholar :}
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1408 Aug 31, 2013
lol skeptic its really amazing that you could actually be this dumb and weird. Thank goodness people like you are few and far between.

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#1409 Aug 31, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
you might not think its moral to kill but someone else may think that it is. Thats why your moral relativity belief is crazy.
Morality is relative, but like I said the better way to look at it is with personal well being.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1410 Aug 31, 2013
morality is relative according to atheists. Don't know why you pretend that you think there should be any morality at all.

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#1411 Aug 31, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
just because you think its wrong doesn't mean it is
Lol tushe

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