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'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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Since: Jun 13

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#1040 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
well you are probably more like the typical politically correct zombie these days that needs to toughen up.
Politically correct zombies??

Since: Jun 13

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#1041 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
oh now the real thinking comes out. I'm not surprised though because atheists really don't have a basis for being moral. Its purely a Christian value.
Morality is not a christian value darlin. If that were the case you would possess it ;-)
AngelAngle

Dallas, TX

#1042 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
oh now the real thinking comes out. I'm not surprised though because atheists really don't have a basis for being moral. Its purely a Christian value.
Gonna go ahead and call bullsh*t on that one.

If a Christian wont commit murder because of fear of the consequences and of being sent to hell,Yet am atheist wont commit murder because they have no desire too and don't have that kind of evil in them who is really more moral?

I have seen VERY LITTLE MORALITY within the words you have written. I have seen immaturity,insults,ignorance and you even said making fun of people was a hobby of yours.Based on my experience with you I know I am a better Christian than you and I'm an atheist!
Thinking

Royston, UK

#1043 Aug 16, 2013
"gott mit uns"
antiatheist wrote:
oh now the real thinking comes out. I'm not surprised though because atheists really don't have a basis for being moral. Its purely a Christian value.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1044 Aug 16, 2013
why should morality be a value for atheists? According to you guys we are nothing more than an accident of random chemicals bonding together. Who cares if one group of chemicals does something to the other? Life has no meaning anyway right? Morality is a Christian concept not an atheist one. You are actually borrowing from Christianity.
AngelAngle

Dallas, TX

#1046 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
why should morality be a value for atheists?
Because we care about one another. We take care of our fellow man, not because we have been told too but because we want to.
AngelAngle

Dallas, TX

#1047 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
why should morality be a value for atheists? According to you guys we are nothing more than an accident of random chemicals bonding together. Who cares if one group of chemicals does something to the other? Life has no meaning anyway right? Morality is a Christian concept not an atheist one. You are actually borrowing from Christianity.
Code of Hammurabi:

these laws date back to about 1772 B.C.E. Give them a read, this is where the 10 commandments and many of the laws and rules in the Bible came from.
http://www.commonlaw.com/Hammurabi.html

Morality is a Christian concept? Your off by at least 1700 years.

Since: Jun 07

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#1048 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
why should morality be a value for atheists? According to you guys we are nothing more than an accident of random chemicals bonding together. Who cares if one group of chemicals does something to the other? Life has no meaning anyway right? Morality is a Christian concept not an atheist one. You are actually borrowing from Christianity.
This is your psychological problem and not the problem of atheists.

We value and respect life by knowing where it really comes from and how precious and rare it REALLY is.

You weak minded charlatans would cry in admiration if you ever understood the real beauty of nature & evolution.

Your ignorance is a stain on e achievements of scientific humanity.

Since: Jun 07

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#1049 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
oh now the real thinking comes out. I'm not surprised though because atheists really don't have a basis for being moral. Its purely a Christian value.
It's seems you were created when your mom was f*cked by ignorance personified.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1050 Aug 16, 2013
there is no need for atheists to have morality. You are hypocritical by on one hand saying we are just accidents and that life really has no meaning then on the other hand saying we should be moral. You think we just evolved and are basically just animals. You think animals care about morality? Of course not.
bish snap

Long Beach, CA

#1051 Aug 16, 2013
Grew up in Okla. Glad to see free views being spread here. I believed in santa too when I was a child.
Amused

Merrimac, MA

#1052 Aug 16, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Until you prove your god - you just look ridiculous.
But, when he tries to prove his god, he also looks ridiculous.

I guess he's just damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#1053 Aug 16, 2013
You're wrong.

Humans were a cooperative species long before religion shat itself onto the world stage.

If you want to see Evolutionary evidence for altruism, watch this:

antiatheist wrote:
there is no need for atheists to have morality. You are hypocritical by on one hand saying we are just accidents and that life really has no meaning then on the other hand saying we should be moral. You think we just evolved and are basically just animals. You think animals care about morality? Of course not.
Amused

Merrimac, MA

#1054 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
why should morality be a value for atheists? According to you guys we are nothing more than an accident of random chemicals bonding together. Who cares if one group of chemicals does something to the other? Life has no meaning anyway right? Morality is a Christian concept not an atheist one. You are actually borrowing from Christianity.
1. I observe the precept of abstaining from the destruction of life.

2. I observe the precept of abstaining from taking that which is not given.

3. I observe the precept of abstaining from sexual misconduct.

4. I observe the precept of abstaining from falsehood.

5. I observe the precept of abstaining from intoxicants that cloud the mind and cause carelessness.

The five precepts of Buddhism. Over a thousand years older than christianity. More compact than the ten commandments, no extraneous stuff about worship of a deity. And the focus is on the commitment of the follower to the precepts, rather than on the precepts being externally commanded. Rules which one takes to heart and commits to following are more likely to be followed than those imposed from outside.

Since the inhabitants of the middle east had no knowledge of the civilizations of the far east, it is highly unlikely that the 10 Commandments were taken from the Precepts. The independent arising of similar codes of morality in different civilizations separated by thousands of years and thousands of miles suggests that these principles are universal.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#1055 Aug 16, 2013
1. I eat vegetables and meat, so I flunk this one.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Yes.
5. Epic fail in a couple of hours time (it's already Friday evening here)

If only antiatheist could try 4.
Amused wrote:
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1. I observe the precept of abstaining from the destruction of life.
2. I observe the precept of abstaining from taking that which is not given.
3. I observe the precept of abstaining from sexual misconduct.
4. I observe the precept of abstaining from falsehood.
5. I observe the precept of abstaining from intoxicants that cloud the mind and cause carelessness.
The five precepts of Buddhism. Over a thousand years older than christianity. More compact than the ten commandments, no extraneous stuff about worship of a deity. And the focus is on the commitment of the follower to the precepts, rather than on the precepts being externally commanded. Rules which one takes to heart and commits to following are more likely to be followed than those imposed from outside.
Since the inhabitants of the middle east had no knowledge of the civilizations of the far east, it is highly unlikely that the 10 Commandments were taken from the Precepts. The independent arising of similar codes of morality in different civilizations separated by thousands of years and thousands of miles suggests that these principles are universal.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1056 Aug 16, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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Agreed. These "Christian" wingnuts are as thick as pig poo, and havent got past the first base on how to be a christian. The patheticness of it almost makes you feel sorry for them.
....**almost**...

.... because the cure is so easy to get-- they literally have it at their fingertips (the interwebs).

But their willful ignorance remains firm.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1057 Aug 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Calling you a cu*t doesn't make you any less incorrect.
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Indeed not.

Sadly, he will likely go to his early grave, being as wrong then as he is wrong today.

A wasted life, for sure.
AngelAngle

Dallas, TX

#1058 Aug 16, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
there is no need for atheists to have morality. You are hypocritical by on one hand saying we are just accidents and that life really has no meaning then on the other hand saying we should be moral. You think we just evolved and are basically just animals. You think animals care about morality? Of course not.
We are moral because its the right thing to do. We are PEOPLE. We look as others as PEOPLE. I don't care if someone is Christian ,Jewish,Muslim, Scientologist or anything else I will help my fellow man. If I see someone in need i help them. I don't do it for the promise of rewards in the afterlife I do it because it is RIGHT!

It is because of this that I say I live a more Christian life than than you.I also, unlike yourself,have read the Bible.
Amused

Merrimac, MA

#1059 Aug 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
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5. Epic fail in a couple of hours time (it's already Friday evening here)
...
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Many of the lay Buddhists I know are rather fond of cognac, a hangover (pun intended) from the French occupation of Southeast Asia. When the Precept is hem, they say, "Alcohol is the enemy. I must destroy the enemy consuming it until the bottle is empty, so that no other Buddhists will be tempted."
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#1060 Aug 16, 2013
we are people?? I could have sworn you said we were animals. So we are not animals angel? Maybe you are making a little progress.

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