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'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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Amused

West Tisbury, MA

#83 Jul 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
No. 3
The Larch.
The Larch.
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Owl Stretchin Time

We could go on and on. There's certainly enough theist Gumby's here standing in water in their wellies ranting on and on.
Thinking

Lymington, UK

#84 Jul 12, 2013
Gumbys must be aspirational to them!
Amused wrote:
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Owl Stretchin Time
We could go on and on. There's certainly enough theist Gumby's here standing in water in their wellies ranting on and on.
Living Free in Jesus

Pittsburgh, PA

#85 Jul 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
The current most charitable individuals in the United States, based on “Estimated Lifetime Giving,” are:
1) Warren Buffett (atheist, donated $40.785 billion to “health, education, humanitarian causes”)
2) Bill & Melinda Gates (atheists, donated $27.602 billion to “global health and development, education”)
3) George Soros (atheist, donated $6.936 billion to “open and democratic societies”)
Religious people love to lie and exaggerate about their cults effectiveness.
nice tax write-offs! I'd rather rejoice over one person who went from Skid Row resident to overseer of a crew in manufacturing because of a Kroc Center (multiple centers in existence because of the generosity of Ray and Joan Kroc, the founders of McDonald's....and let's not forget Ronald McDonald Houses, too.) True, there is nothing wrong with being educated or in good health, but I would like to know what all the terms really mean. What is an open and democratic society? I don't think a real one exists, and $6.936 billion is a lot to spend on something else under a false name.

OK, your turn to exaggerate about your cults' effectiveness.
Living Free in Jesus

Pittsburgh, PA

#86 Jul 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
The current most charitable individuals in the United States, based on “Estimated Lifetime Giving,” are:
1) Warren Buffett (atheist, donated $40.785 billion to “health, education, humanitarian causes”)
2) Bill & Melinda Gates (atheists, donated $27.602 billion to “global health and development, education”)
3) George Soros (atheist, donated $6.936 billion to “open and democratic societies”)
Religious people love to lie and exaggerate about their cults effectiveness.
No one has to lie or exaggerate about the work of The Salvation Army. It has programs for all ages, men and women, and is a church at its root. I would rather have a Christian for my friend than an atheist. What good is it to comfort a friend by telling him there is no God?
Living Free in Jesus

Pittsburgh, PA

#87 Jul 12, 2013
Cujo wrote:
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Christians include tithing as a donation to charity. Something many are FORCED to do, like a tax.
You obviously don't know about tithing. If anyone is forced, it would be those who gave up their free will to an organization or group and have chosen to tithe by force. Usually, these are the ones who think that they can "buy" their salvation by impressing God with money.

True tithing is one of God's way of supporting the work of a local church. The money given is used locally for salaries, utilities, teaching materials, upgrades to equipment,....whatever is needed to keep the house of worship open for whoever would come.

Please tell the truth next time.
Living Free in Jesus

Pittsburgh, PA

#88 Jul 12, 2013
AngelAngle wrote:
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What have i said that is hateful? When have i said anything insulting? Please give an example of an attack on anyone that I have been a part of. A lot of the insults and intolerance that i have read here have been under the name "antiatheist"
Let me give you a little information about myself, I don't hate anyone.
I don't hate any god, i just don't believe that any of them are real because I have not been provided with sufficient proof to convince me otherwise.
I am not a hateful person, nor do I conduct myself in a hateful way. I have witnessed hatred and bigotry firsthand and I find it to be a wasteful way to live one's life.I choose to live my life as a happy person, I have been one ever since I became an atheist.
Did you ever read the entire Bible? That is the only way anyone can get a complete understanding of what's going on, like why bad things happen to good people, death, hatred, etc. The Bible itself says that our first instructor to point us to God is nature (Romans 1,2)

As the years roll by for me, I find life being more of a great adventure to trust God for all and an anticipation for the time to come when I shall go home, forever to be with the one who loved me and gave his life for me and has prepared for me a dwelling place in heaven. More than ever, I have no desire to go back to what I came from, for there is nothing to look forward there except hopelessness.

I pray you may see the wonders of God in all your life and that you may come to know His unconditional love as shown in I Corinthians 13. God bless.
Anonymous

Pittsburgh, PA

#89 Jul 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
When you become brave enough to prove the god your cult sent you here to lie to us about, you will discover what morals mean.
Atheists are not attracted to dishonest people like yourself who must lie about god in order to sell your cult to us.
When you grow up and realise how you are behaving towards people, you will realise the importance of facts and evidence.
lets see how brave or cowardly you are, now that you are aware of this.
According to the Bible, nature first shows us God.....in the heavens, plants, animals, man's conscience....

nothing for sale there, just anyone's free acceptance
AngelAngle

Dallas, TX

#90 Jul 12, 2013
Living Free in Jesus wrote:
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Did you ever read the entire Bible? That is the only way anyone can get a complete understanding of what's going on, like why bad things happen to good people, death, hatred, etc. The Bible itself says that our first instructor to point us to God is nature (Romans 1,2)
As the years roll by for me, I find life being more of a great adventure to trust God for all and an anticipation for the time to come when I shall go home, forever to be with the one who loved me and gave his life for me and has prepared for me a dwelling place in heaven. More than ever, I have no desire to go back to what I came from, for there is nothing to look forward there except hopelessness.
I pray you may see the wonders of God in all your life and that you may come to know His unconditional love as shown in I Corinthians 13. God bless.
I have read all of it and memorized quite a bit of it in school. I just don't see the same thing in it that a believer does. I see it as being a piece of literature but there is no way I can see it as divinely written.

I am glad you find solace and happiness within its pages. There is some great wisdom contained in it.
"Love thy neighbor as thyself"
If everyone would just follow that one passage we would live in a Utopia.

Amused

Lowell, MA

#91 Jul 12, 2013
Living Free in Jesus wrote:
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...I would rather have a Christian for my friend than an atheist. What good is it to comfort a friend by telling him there is no God?
As opposed to lying to them and telling them a fairy tale? People who lie to you are not your friends.

Since: Jun 12

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#92 Jul 12, 2013
Living Free in Jesus wrote:
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No one has to lie or exaggerate about the work of The Salvation Army. It has programs for all ages, men and women, and is a church at its root. I would rather have a Christian for my friend than an atheist. What good is it to comfort a friend by telling him there is no God?
i wouldn't want a christian as a friend when they have to lie to me for comfort
Amused

Lowell, MA

#93 Jul 12, 2013
Living Free in Jesus wrote:
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Did you ever read the entire Bible? That is the only way anyone can get a complete understanding of what's going on, like why bad things happen to good people, death, hatred, etc. The Bible itself says that our first instructor to point us to God is nature (Romans 1,2)
As the years roll by for me, I find life being more of a great adventure to trust God for all and an anticipation for the time to come when I shall go home, forever to be with the one who loved me and gave his life for me and has prepared for me a dwelling place in heaven. More than ever, I have no desire to go back to what I came from, for there is nothing to look forward there except hopelessness.
I pray you may see the wonders of God in all your life and that you may come to know His unconditional love as shown in I Corinthians 13. God bless.
Most atheists have read the whole bible. Reading the whole thing, as opposed to the few pieces cherry picked by religious leaders for the flock to read is the shortest road to atheism.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#94 Jul 12, 2013
"most atheists have read the whole bible". Every single atheist I've ever talked to has "read the whole bible". I personally think this is a huge lie. THEY cherry pick verses and totally distort them to try and prove a "point". You atheists are all the same and extremely predictable.
AngelAngle

Dallas, TX

#95 Jul 12, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
"most atheists have read the whole bible". Every single atheist I've ever talked to has "read the whole bible". I personally think this is a huge lie. THEY cherry pick verses and totally distort them to try and prove a "point". You atheists are all the same and extremely predictable.
I would say I understand it very well.Well enough to point out all the loopholes, contradictions and intolerance and superstitious jargon contained within its pages.

I understand it well enough that I have no problem answering any questions thrown at me. I answer them to the best of my ability with the knowledge and understanding i have obtained by studying the texts.

You sir, have dodged every question that has been asked of you. Not just from myself but from others.

Any legitimate question is immediately responded to with insults,name calling and other childish behavior in order to avoid the question or change the subject all together.

These actions speak to one's character, or lack there of.

I don't come here to fight I come here to debate.I love a good debate, I feel that it is a productive and healthy way to express the opinions of all parties involved.An exchange of ideas between rational thinking adults can be a beautiful experience,even if those ideas don't agree with one another. However, fighting accomplishes nothing. One person insults another and the exchange goes back and fourth and then everyone gets angry.Any two fools can fight but it takes a certain level of intellect and professionalism to pull off a successful debate.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#96 Jul 12, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
"most atheists have read the whole bible"..
I doubt that too. How stupid and boring would one have to be to read such drivel in the 21st Century? Talk about 'get a life'!

Many of us were raised in one of the Abrahamic cults and probably do know the Bible better than many religionists.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#97 Jul 12, 2013
again ed.........I've yet to encounter any atheist that says they haven't read the whole bible. I doubt many Christians have read the bible cover to cover yet somehow I'm supposed to believe atheists have? We both know thats a crock. Angel didn't even understand the basic concepts of Christianity. She thought God created things and then didn't give them any choices.
Anonymous

Pittsburgh, PA

#98 Jul 12, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Most atheists have read the whole bible. Reading the whole thing, as opposed to the few pieces cherry picked by religious leaders for the flock to read is the shortest road to atheism.
You have generalized, which is a distortion of truth. According to the post, most atheists have read the Bible, and all Christians have not but have read only what they are directed to read. How did you determine this? Take a poll all over the earth? Would you mind giving all the statistics and include any footnotes telling which denominations were not included? I know mine wasn't included, because, when the pastor goes on vacation and picks a member of the congregation to take charge for the next Sunday service, the person picked is free to choose anything from the Bible to speak on......with no one looking over his or her shoulder.

Atheists, just like those of the cults, make themselves look like parrots who mouth what they are taught, even though it is not true.
Anonymous

Pittsburgh, PA

#99 Jul 12, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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i wouldn't want a christian as a friend when they have to lie to me for comfort
And, what are the standards for determining what is a lie and what is truth? What determines if the standards are faithful without exception?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#100 Jul 12, 2013
Living Free in Jesus wrote:
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Did you ever read the entire Bible?
Yes.

How on **earth** do you think I became an atheist?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#101 Jul 12, 2013
Living Free in Jesus wrote:
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And, what are the standards for determining what is a lie and what is truth? What determines if the standards are faithful without exception?
Reality is whatever is leftover...

... after you STOP BELIEVING.

You are just another Genuine Christian Liar™.

No functional difference between you and those nutters from Westburough Baptist Church.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#102 Jul 12, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
"most atheists have read the whole bible". Every single atheist I've ever talked to has "read the whole bible". I personally think this is a huge lie. THEY cherry pick verses and totally distort them to try and prove a "point". You atheists are all the same and extremely predictable.
Quoting the ugly bible-- word-for-word-- is what you call "distortion"?

Really?

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