'Good without a god': Faces of atheism in Oklahoma

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LOL

United States

#7958 May 27, 2014
Your Stoopid wrote:
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You really are stupid. How is this
KAREN JANBAZ, RAY JANBAZ, PERRY'S RESTAURANT ON SOUTH MAY
KAREN JANBAZ, RAY JANBAZ, PERRY'S RESTAURANT ON SOUTH MAY
KAREN JANBAZ, RAY JANBAZ, PERRY'S RESTAURANT ON SOUTH MAY
Karen is a woman... and she is an older woman. I think what you do to a woman her age is really childish. If she did post her info, then she isn't very smart. So that gives you the right to take advantage of her? Whats next? Are you going to join the special Olympics, so you can beat some down syndrome kid out of a trophy? You take advantage of someone weaker than you because its evident that you are a coward. If she really is as stupid as you say she is, you would think that she has enough problems. Why don't you go to the kiddie pool and attack some kid? Why don't you go to a nursing home and beat up an old person? Why don't you pick on someone in a wheel chair? And its not just you, its the rest of your topix "gang" that falls right in with you. I figure that you are all about her age, perhaps older and all live in the same trailer park.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH.....stop whining Karen!

Since: Jun 13

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#7959 May 28, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure marijuana is only one of your problems.
I'm sure stupidity is only one of yours.
So What

Choctaw, OK

#7961 May 28, 2014
Your Stoopid wrote:
<quoted text>
You really are stupid. How is this
KAREN JANBAZ, RAY JANBAZ, PERRY'S RESTAURANT ON SOUTH MAY
KAREN JANBAZ, RAY JANBAZ, PERRY'S RESTAURANT ON SOUTH MAY
KAREN JANBAZ, RAY JANBAZ, PERRY'S RESTAURANT ON SOUTH MAY
You're one to talk about being abusive when it is clear that your goal was to make me sick to my stomach and throw up. You intentionally brought back bad memories for me by intellective visuals. From this point forward I will think of you when bowing to the toilet. CURSE YOU!
Why did Perry's gravy have to taste like cigarette ashes?

Since: Aug 13

Dallas, TX

#7962 May 28, 2014
antiatheist wrote:
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Right. There is no such thing as magic. However, there is such a thing as God. You will meet Him someday. Again, whens the last time you argued hours on end with people who believe in aliens or the tooth fairy? Thats what I thought. You are afraid of God and honestly I don't blame you.
a vague statement about how only YOUR kind of magic is the only magic to exist followed by an empty threat because I don't believe what you believe.

I have debated about aliens before but not the tooth fairy. Fortunately, most people just see the tooth fairy as something silly that we teach to children.

Afraid of a god? hardly.
So What

Choctaw, OK

#7964 May 28, 2014
AngelAngle wrote:
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a vague statement about how only YOUR kind of magic is the only magic to exist followed by an empty threat because I don't believe what you believe.
I have debated about aliens before but not the tooth fairy. Fortunately, most people just see the tooth fairy as something silly that we teach to children.
Afraid of a god? hardly.
LOL! It's The Tooth Fairy to you.

I'm not sure why The Tooth Fairy is given such a bad rap. Because it is one of the first examples of Capitalism that we teach our children it seems almost an un-American act.
Your Stoopid

Oklahoma City, OK

#7965 May 28, 2014
So What wrote:
<quoted text>You're one to talk about being abusive when it is clear that your goal was to make me sick to my stomach and throw up. You intentionally brought back bad memories for me by intellective visuals. From this point forward I will think of you when bowing to the toilet. CURSE YOU!
Why did Perry's gravy have to taste like cigarette ashes?
You are the most absolute ignorant retard i have ever met. It makes no difference what you say about karen janbaz I could care less. Like I said slow twat, at least karen has a job... What is it that you do anyway besides take money from the government to live on? You dont work you say? sounds about right.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#7966 May 28, 2014
So What wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! It's The Tooth Fairy to you.
I'm not sure why The Tooth Fairy is given such a bad rap. Because it is one of the first examples of Capitalism that we teach our children it seems almost an un-American act.
It is probably the "Fairy" part of the name. Gets all the homophobe fundies riled up. If the tooth fairy were to change his/her/its name to the tooth elf, there'd probably be less resistance.
So What

Choctaw, OK

#7967 May 28, 2014
Amused wrote:
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It is probably the "Fairy" part of the name. Gets all the homophobe fundies riled up. If the tooth fairy were to change his/her/its name to the tooth elf, there'd probably be less resistance.
A true Capitalist would never allow things like race, gender or sexual orientation to stand in the way of a monetary transaction. I believe what you have just described is a Fascist Pig.

Fascism is as American as fried chicken, mini skirts and rainbows.
So What

Choctaw, OK

#7968 May 28, 2014
Your Stoopid wrote:
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You are the most absolute ignorant retard i have ever met. It makes no difference what you say about karen janbaz I could care less. Like I said slow twat, at least karen has a job... What is it that you do anyway besides take money from the government to live on? You dont work you say? sounds about right.
LOL! Trolling is not a job Karen. It is your abscission. The only thing you do for your restaurant is make sure the tables stay clear.......of customers, by promoting bad publicity. Any publicity is good publicity doesn't apply to restaurants, people won't take the chance on making themselves or the people they are with ill.

"Why don't we go eat at Perry's, I heard it sucks". "Okay, I'm just dying to find out".

I have never said that I work or don't work. But you need to pick a side. You claim you're for public assistance, but now you claim to be against it. You're nothing but a self serving hypocrite that has become completely occupied with making an ass of yourself.

And if you really do live in your parents old house you should take the OU blanket out of the front window. It looks tacky, and says, "Hey look at me, I'm a GOONER FAN!". It is embarrassing to Sooner Fans.
LOL

United States

#7969 May 28, 2014
So What wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! Trolling is not a job Karen. It is your abscission. The only thing you do for your restaurant is make sure the tables stay clear.......of customers, by promoting bad publicity. Any publicity is good publicity doesn't apply to restaurants, people won't take the chance on making themselves or the people they are with ill.
"Why don't we go eat at Perry's, I heard it sucks". "Okay, I'm just dying to find out".
I have never said that I work or don't work. But you need to pick a side. You claim you're for public assistance, but now you claim to be against it. You're nothing but a self serving hypocrite that has become completely occupied with making an ass of yourself.
And if you really do live in your parents old house you should take the OU blanket out of the front window. It looks tacky, and says, "Hey look at me, I'm a GOONER FAN!". It is embarrassing to Sooner Fans.
abscission? Maybe obsession?
So What

Choctaw, OK

#7970 May 28, 2014
LOL wrote:
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abscission? Maybe obsession?
abscission; cutting off: the act of suddenly cutting something off.
I was using it in reference to what she is doing to Perry's. I think abscission is a better fit because Karen's trolling has now gone far beyond an obsession that she has had for a long time. Even self harm doesn't seem to matter to her now.

She is abscising her nose to malice her face.
Yore Stooopid

Oklahoma City, OK

#7971 May 28, 2014
So What wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! Trolling is not a job Karen. It is your abscission. The only thing you do for your restaurant is make sure the tables stay clear.......of customers, by promoting bad publicity. Any publicity is good publicity doesn't apply to restaurants, people won't take the chance on making themselves or the people they are with ill.
"Why don't we go eat at Perry's, I heard it sucks". "Okay, I'm just dying to find out".
I have never said that I work or don't work. But you need to pick a side. You claim you're for public assistance, but now you claim to be against it. You're nothing but a self serving hypocrite that has become completely occupied with making an ass of yourself.
And if you really do live in your parents old house you should take the OU blanket out of the front window. It looks tacky, and says, "Hey look at me, I'm a GOONER FAN!". It is embarrassing to Sooner Fans.
Its because I'm not Karen you stupid imbecile. I.m not against public assistance for those who truly need it, which is probably only 47% that's on it. The other 53% need to get a life. You stated that the retards that were on the corner bumming money for their "restoration church" were unemployable. I totally disagree, they are "lazy" There is an old man out at the FAA with cerebral palsy who has to ride a scooter to the toilet and fight his way on the toilet seat and he shows up everyday. People in wheel chairs go to work. There are people with downs syndrome who hold down full-time jobs. There are blind people working at the courthouse. There are drunks who go to temp sources, work a day, then spend it on liquor. If you are one of the people who claim some cuckoo illness to get a check, then get on the internet and bash people who have jobs, you need to be put to sleep.

And if I was Karen I really bowed up on the street bums didn't I? Big bad Karen 57 years old attacking young thugs. You just wish you were half the man karen is, lol.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#7972 May 29, 2014
So What wrote:
<quoted text>A true Capitalist would never allow things like race, gender or sexual orientation to stand in the way of a monetary transaction. I believe what you have just described is a Fascist Pig.
Fascism is as American as fried chicken, mini skirts and rainbows.
Or a religious fanatic. Religious fanatics do things for reasons other than money. Their leaders never do.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#7973 May 29, 2014
Your Stoopid wrote:
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You are the most absolute ignorant retard i have ever met. It makes no difference what you say about karen janbaz I could care less. Like I said slow twat, at least karen has a job... What is it that you do anyway besides take money from the government to live on? You dont work you say? sounds about right.
Nope No Job!
So What

Choctaw, OK

#7974 May 29, 2014
Amused wrote:
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Or a religious fanatic. Religious fanatics do things for reasons other than money. Their leaders never do.
I disagree. Televangelists like Jimmy Swaggart I believe are motivated by money. And commercial churches are also driven by greed. We have a church in OKC called Crossroads Cathedral that has a minister that drives a Ferrari and wears a full length Beaver Coat, and lives in a plantation size home on a very expensive commercial corner. I'm sure he isn't the only minister around these parts that isn't meek judging by the size of so many churches.

But I can see your point, because you could categorize them as frauds and not fanatics.
Jessup

Muskogee, OK

#7975 May 29, 2014
LOL wrote:
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH.....stop whining Karen!
Never happen in her lifetime and probably ours as well. I see she continues to tie up threads with her bullshit posts in alias names sometimes even posting to herself. Serious mental issues with that one!
Jessup

Muskogee, OK

#7976 May 29, 2014
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Nope No Job!
No job for Karen Janbaz but she designated herself the official socialist troll of Topix.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#7977 May 29, 2014
You have worked for about twice the years that I have been living. Interesting post though.
Amused wrote:
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I've been working for more than 40 years, and never asked to take a drug test. I think they are a legitimate thing for worker's whose jobs are such that trying to do them while impaired creates a danger to the public or to co-workers, but completely unnecessary for the vast majority of workers. A file clerk who misfiles while stoned is not a workplace menace. A secretary typing the same sentence over and over because she keeps losing her place is unproductive, but not dangerous.
The tests are not so reliable. Eating a poppy seed bagel can and has resulted in people testing positive for opiate use. Taking sudafed for a cold or allergy can lead to a false positive for meth.(The reason you can't buy more than a limited quantity of sudafed at any one time is because it is a major component in manufacturing meth. THC from marijuana is fat-soluble, and stays in the body for over a month.
Beyond all of that, it is overly intrusive and derogates from human dignity and freedom. If you choose to work for employers who have no respect for your privacy, that's your choice. Insisting that your choice be imposed on others just to make you feel better about it is irrational.
In most cases, private industry adopts things like this out of lawyerphobia. They fear that if they don't take every possible precaution against every possible scenario where someone might assert liability, they will be sued into starvation. In the case of governments, I don't believe any government anywhere has every refused an accretion of power."Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." Louis Brandeis, US Supreme Court Justice.
Between exaggerated fear of liability lawsuits and vastly exaggerated fear of terrorism, private industry and the government have successfully menaced the American public with an endless series of hobgoblins, kept us clamoring to be led to safety, and made a mockery of the Bill of Rights.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#7978 May 29, 2014
Amused wrote:
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I've been posting as Amused for several years now. I have no real interest in "develop[ing] an online personality" beyond what I put into my posts. I have no interest in registering, and some privacy concerns that make me positively disinclined to do so. There's no one else on this forum using Amused as a handle, as a general rule, although occasionally some troll or other thinks it clever to impersonate various regulars. So everything posted here by Amused is from me. Is it "consistent"? Pretty much. Sometimes I post short pieces, mostly feeble attempts at humor. Sometimes I post longer, more serious pieces. I think the basic philosophy underlying both is the same. So, I think I am consistent. You may feel otherwise, and you are welcome to your opinion.
In the same vein, I express my opinions. I really do not give a flying f*&# if anyone here thinks I am crazy. You are welcome to your opinion.
I was unregistered for a while until someone stole my name and pretended they were me. Now I realize the benefits of being registered.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#7979 May 29, 2014
So What wrote:
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I disagree. Televangelists like Jimmy Swaggart I believe are motivated by money. And commercial churches are also driven by greed. We have a church in OKC called Crossroads Cathedral that has a minister that drives a Ferrari and wears a full length Beaver Coat, and lives in a plantation size home on a very expensive commercial corner. I'm sure he isn't the only minister around these parts that isn't meek judging by the size of so many churches.
But I can see your point, because you could categorize them as frauds and not fanatics.
Not all religious fanatics are like that. Some are poor and just crazy.

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